[HN Gopher] Slouch: Posture panic in modern America
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       Slouch: Posture panic in modern America
        
       Author : samclemens
       Score  : 27 points
       Date   : 2024-11-22 06:17 UTC (2 days ago)
        
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       | naming_the_user wrote:
       | I'll admit to not reading the entire article here but I think
       | that mostly people mistake posture issues for lack of exercise /
       | being sedentary in general.
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       | If you work out a minimal amount and build some core strength /
       | back muscles etc then you'll find that your posture naturally
       | corrects itself whilst walking, that sitting in a chair for
       | extended periods isn't as rough, etc.
        
         | n4r9 wrote:
         | I've found this to be the case for myself. And "minimal" can be
         | pretty quick - work up to a set of 5 squats with your body
         | weight on the bar, once or twice a week, say.
        
           | rootusrootus wrote:
           | I must be old or I have a different idea of minimal. A set of
           | squats at ~200 pounds is entirely doable in time, yes, but my
           | guess is it would be non-trivial for much of the adult
           | population. Even when we were doing conditioning in high
           | school I don't recall that a significant fraction of the
           | class was breaking much over 225 or so.
        
             | fire_lake wrote:
             | Many people lack the mobility to squat at all! Correcting
             | this takes considerable time.
        
             | yesco wrote:
             | Gaining reliable access to the equipment can also be tricky
             | depending on your budget, schedule and floorplan. I
             | personally couldn't really get a good habit going until I
             | could purchase the equipment and make it available from
             | home. Prior to that I was intermittently going to a gym but
             | Covid really drilled into me how transient that access can
             | be.
             | 
             | Considering how far you can go with just a few gallons of
             | water, would be nice if there was more innovation in this
             | space to increase accessibility in a safe way. While the
             | bars and weights are one thing, it's ultimately the lack of
             | a rack that makes squats troublesome imo.
        
               | n4r9 wrote:
               | I've never had space to store the bar itself, but if I
               | had a home gym I'd be okay with a couple of stands like
               | this:
               | 
               | https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/mp/york/york-squat-
               | stands/_/R-...
               | 
               | You have to learn how to bail, but (depending on low vs
               | high bar) you can get pretty confident at it
        
             | naming_the_user wrote:
             | The issue is that people stop exercising at all as adults
             | which makes about as much sense as stopping teeth brushing.
             | 
             | If you just consistently do a little bit of strength
             | training then it never gets hard, you just very slowly tail
             | off in absolute strength which is fine.
             | 
             | The average adult probably also isn't great at learning for
             | example because they just stop once they finish school.
        
             | n4r9 wrote:
             | I meant minimal in terms of time. I get your point though.
             | Still, a set of your 5RM is going to do wonders for many
             | people no matter how strong you already are. And if you're
             | putting a bit of thought into form and diet, I believe most
             | people can work up to around 80kg with a year of practise
             | twice a week.
        
         | rickcarlino wrote:
         | Even at my peak of training for a 50 mile ultra marathon last
         | year my posture was kind of crappy by conventional measures.
         | That being said, I can run 50 miles without stopping just fine
         | and I have never sustained a serious injury during my 15+ years
         | as a runner.
        
           | tyre wrote:
           | Those are completely different muscles, so it makes sense
           | that your posture isn't different.
        
           | marmakoide wrote:
           | Regular Sunday 10 miles here, then I had the pleasure to
           | experience plantar fasciitis. I love running, but the
           | injuries can be really annoying
        
         | marmakoide wrote:
         | I fixed my recurrent back pain with a 6 mn daily morning, ie.
         | plank, side plank, reverse plank, 1mn 30 sec each.
         | 
         | Posture muscles are not very well known in the general public.
         | Loss of strength due to aging and sedentary lifestyle makes
         | standing, seating, etc uncomfortable.
        
         | FooBarBizBazz wrote:
         | > people mistake posture issues for lack of exercise / being
         | sedentary [...]
         | 
         | > If you work out a minimal amount and build some core strength
         | / back muscles etc then you'll find that your posture naturally
         | corrects itself [...]
         | 
         | I'm missing something. Doesn't paragraph 2 imply that the
         | assumption made by people (paragraph 1) is not actually a
         | mistake?
        
         | hn_throwaway_99 wrote:
         | Completely agree. I'm "late middle age", and while I lift
         | weights regularly, including squats and deadlifts, I am
         | otherwise pretty sedentary and I don't get a lot of
         | "functional" fitness (e.g. sports).
         | 
         | Recently I decided to find a new hobby and started playing the
         | violin. It was a wakeup call that after just a half hour
         | standing playing the violin with my instructor that my back
         | would basically seize up. It was quite embarrassing! Good thing
         | is I got used to it pretty quick, and thanks to violin practice
         | I stand much more than I used to (and plus I added more back
         | and stretching exercises to my workout). As you say, it really
         | takes a minimal amount to improve your strength.
        
       | apitman wrote:
       | Lift weights
        
         | baxtr wrote:
         | Surprisingly enough, the answer to many self imposed human
         | problems
        
       | sandspar wrote:
       | If you watch those "restored 1920s street scene" videos on
       | YouTube then you'll quickly notice that every single pedestrian
       | has outstanding posture.
        
       | ChrisMarshallNY wrote:
       | My father was fairly tall, and had a slouch from always ducking
       | (we lived in Africa, and he towered over most people, and was
       | always banging his head).
       | 
       | My mother was always nagging me to "sit up straight."
       | 
       | These days, I have fairly good posture. Part of it, is because I
       | take a 5K brisk walk, every morning, and that helps me to stay
       | straight. Also, I am not that tall, so I don't need to keep
       | ducking.
       | 
       | I also use a standing desk, and like to stand straight for it.
        
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