[HN Gopher] Google stops letting sites like Forbes rule search f...
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Google stops letting sites like Forbes rule search for "Best CBD
Gummies"
Author : pseudolus
Score : 57 points
Date : 2024-11-20 21:07 UTC (1 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (arstechnica.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (arstechnica.com)
| akira2501 wrote:
| An entire department was just rendered useless. I genuinely don't
| feel bad.
| kasey_junk wrote:
| Was probably a whole company right? Pretty good argument that
| Forbes the traditional media property and Forbes the seo giant
| are 2 different things: https://larslofgren.com/forbes-
| marketplace/
| readyplayernull wrote:
| I wouldn't be surprised of the whole thing being automated.
| _DeadFred_ wrote:
| It was funny watching the warrior whatever site back in the day
| when Panda came along. Love when these people get their
| horrible business models kneecapped.
|
| Now let's make corporate stock manipulation illegal again and
| ban corporate stock buybacks. Talk about a purely manipulative
| business strategy.
| red_trumpet wrote:
| What's the problem with stock buybacks?
| mathgeek wrote:
| Couple articles that explore that:
|
| https://hbr.org/2020/01/why-stock-buybacks-are-dangerous-
| for...
|
| https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/07/are-
| stock-...
| notyourwork wrote:
| Nothing directly, it just sounds bad at face value.
| kiru_io wrote:
| Google should vibe out others as well. If I search now "Best CBD
| Gummies", the first few results are: vice.com independent.co.uk
| healthline.com observer.com
|
| How is Forbes worse than any of those shallow comparison pages?
| glial wrote:
| FWIW, Kagi is a little better but not much. First results are:
|
| * cornbreadhemp.com * forbes.com * healthline.com
| al_borland wrote:
| Kagi does let the user adjust the rankings of these sites if
| they don't want them coming up. While it would be nice to
| have this done proactively for the link farms, at least the
| user does have some control.
|
| Forbes did make it on the blocked and lowered leaderboards.
|
| https://kagi.com/stats?stat=leaderboard
| Ancalagon wrote:
| Hopefully this is a step in the right direction. Google's search
| results have gotten so bad - seems like even some of the simplest
| searches are just packed with AI generated and SEO garbage. I
| don't even want SearchGPT do take over the search market space
| because I'm almost sure it will still be garbage. Just bring back
| the google from 5-10 years ago please :(.
| 0xbadcafebee wrote:
| You can't go back to the way things were. The world moves
| forward and changes, and we have to adapt to it.
|
| Web search has always been an extremely messy solution to many
| problems. Think about the premise: type in anything, and
| somehow it will read your mind, intuit who you are and what you
| really wanted, find the exact thing amid the morass of the
| whole web, and then give it to you?
|
| That's impossible. So it uses tricks to make it _seem_ like it
| worked. It uses information about you to refine results. It
| uses curated, human-edited search and result heuristics for the
| most common or difficult search queries. It uses a giant corups
| of data, and shows you _things_ that are _like_ what you
| wanted.
|
| You don't notice that it isn't giving you the best result,
| because there are so many mediocre-but-acceptable results to
| look at. And it doesn't have to work perfectly every time,
| because we can "sift through" results and "refine" our search.
| Often we are flooded with results that are _targeted_ at us,
| rather than what we want, because, remember: Google is an
| advertising company, and the entire Web is now a shopping mall,
| where either you 're being sold-to, or you're just being sold.
|
| You will get _results_ , and they will sort-of seem like what
| you wanted, so you will just sort of sigh and accept it.
| Because what other option is there?
|
| There are more intelligent, more accurate, more _safe_ , ways
| to solve the problems people have, that are not "a search
| engine". It's time we start implementing them.
| wslh wrote:
| My feeling as a Google user since the beginning is that the
| search engine doesn't matter anymore in terms of quality. That is
| why I wonder how Google supposely discover their own "bugs" so
| late.
| burnt-resistor wrote:
| Forbes motto should be: "The mouthpiece for the finest
| neoliberal-libertarian propaganda for the complete
| transactionalization, commodification, and privatization of
| America and the world exclusively for the benefit of capital
| owners."
| PaulHoule wrote:
| AMEN!
|
| I remember this guy
|
| http://www.seobook.com/blog
|
| pointing out the line between what you can get away with with SEO
| and what you can't get away with and what you can't get away with
| is making Google look stupid.
| bhartzer wrote:
| Google should have done this 5-10 years ago.
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