[HN Gopher] GNU Artanis 1.0.0 Released
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GNU Artanis 1.0.0 Released
Author : nalaginrut
Score : 120 points
Date : 2024-11-20 14:44 UTC (8 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (artanis.dev)
(TXT) w3m dump (artanis.dev)
| NeutralForest wrote:
| Looks cool but I wish it were available with other package
| managers than guix :'( It makes a kinda hard to try out just for
| fun.
| CarpaDorada wrote:
| If you just want to try it out you can compile it from source,
| see <https://www.gnu.org/software/artanis/manual/manual.html#or
| g3...>.
| NeutralForest wrote:
| I know, not an amazing alternative imo as they're also saying
| it takes a long time. I just wish I didn't need to be all in
| into Guix to easily play around with such projects, which
| aside from that, look really cool.
| sourcepluck wrote:
| Did you catch that page there aside from the manual, where
| they describe how to install it on Ubuntu?
| https://artanis.dev/blog/build-0.6-ubuntu.html it seems
| quite detailed, maybe it wouldn't be so bad to get through.
|
| Otherwise, you don't have to change OS to run guix the
| package manager, it can be installed on a "foreign distro",
| i.e., on top of Debian, or something else. Details here
| https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/html_node/Installation.html
|
| You would then use your "guix" command at the terminal to
| download any of the 29,253 packages here
| https://packages.guix.gnu.org/ (or just artanis).
| CarpaDorada wrote:
| They say it takes a long time to build Guile, the Scheme
| compiler, not Artanis. I can build guile in less than 2
| minutes on my old laptop.
| ginko wrote:
| It's available on AUR:
| https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/artanis (bit outdated
| though)
| NeutralForest wrote:
| Nice thanks!
| zelphirkalt wrote:
| You can use guix on any GNU/Linux distro afaik. If you create a
| guix profile for a project, it should be fairly simple to use
| that to install artanis. With guix time-machine you can also
| make reproducible setups, to ensure you can run your stuff
| years later.
|
| But the most basic use of installing artanis in the default
| profile should also work.
|
| Where do you see the difficulties installing artanis with guix?
| ristos wrote:
| Nice! is it R7RS compatible? or just specific to Guile?
| cassepipe wrote:
| ;; NOTE: I won't encourage using Racket but if you really want,
| ;; I still give you some hints in this tutorial. But the
| ;; tutorial will base on Guile and RnRs.
|
| I guess so
|
| https://artanis.dev/scheme.html
| whartung wrote:
| ;; NOTE: I won't encourage using Racket but if you really
| want,
|
| That's two random, unrelated lightweight jabs at Racket I've
| seen in the past two days.
|
| Why does Racket have this "bad" reputation in the Scheme
| community?
| zelphirkalt wrote:
| Not sure. I could imagine it being because it is no longer
| a Scheme, or the creators and maintainers do no longer want
| it to be seen as a Scheme. Or perhaps because it introduces
| differences not adhering to the Scheme standards and
| therefore Schemers do not like it.
|
| I liked Racket. I only found it difficult to use multiple
| cores dynamically with it and its places concept and
| lifting and multiple Racket VMs and all that. Guile seems
| easier in that regard. But Racket has typed racket and more
| advanced macro system ...
| packetlost wrote:
| Oh wow I wish that font was even remotely readable
| evanjrowley wrote:
| The code font is more readable than the rest of the website:
| https://artanis.dev/scheme.html
| dismalaf wrote:
| Barely. It's extremely annoying that a left parenthesis looks
| like a capital C.
| rietta wrote:
| Scheme! Now that is some code I have not seen in a long time.
| evilduck wrote:
| [delayed]
| pmontra wrote:
| I've got a dot matrix printer somewhere in a box that could
| reprint that site with all the dot lines, if I manage to find
| it and connect to a computer. I can't remember if it has a
| serial or parallel port.
| rcleveng wrote:
| Agree, had to pop this into chrome devtools to get through the
| page:
|
| let newStyle = document.createElement('style');
| newStyle.innerHTML = 'body { font-family: "Verdana";
| background-color: #eee}'; document.head.appendChild(newStyle);
| exhilaration wrote:
| Yes the crazy sci-fi font is hard to read, but I have to give
| them props for being unique. I even like the grammatical
| mistakes, it's so different than the ultra-polished stuff we
| usually see here. This project has _personality_!
| AceJohnny2 wrote:
| "You have personality. That's not necessarily a good
| personality, but you have some!"
| sourcepluck wrote:
| Oh, I thought it was quite fun, and still found it easily
| readable
| sigio wrote:
| Good thing there's reader mode, with a nice and large default
| system font
| ape4 wrote:
| Dot matrix printer that's low in ink
| initramfs wrote:
| it would be slightly better if it were black background and
| green ink
| graemep wrote:
| That is horrible.
|
| I did not see it at first as I had JS off. Once I allowed JS
| the font loaded and .. yuck.
| systems wrote:
| for me zooming out to 67% worked fine
| marci wrote:
| Strangely true.
| accrual wrote:
| Looks amazing with JS turned off!
| zelphirkalt wrote:
| I don't see any unreadable parts and found it very readable. I
| guess yet again saved by not downloading random web fonts onto
| my machine or not running random JS. Yay! Blocking unnecessary
| traffic for the win!
| vvillena wrote:
| It's definitely a design non-conforming with the current
| customs, but it's also a fine choice for this type of
| project. It feels like bland minimalist design has become so
| prevalent that people are horrified by any deviation from the
| expected norm. Not everything has to be designed for maximum
| contrast and readability, sometimes projects require a bit of
| flair.
| metadat wrote:
| If you zoom in it's pretty cool how each letter is a matrix of
| squares, but agreed - very challenging and distracting to try
| and read when the end result looks interlaced.
| slater wrote:
| I know we're not supposed to go off on website stuff (per
| guidelines: "Please don't complain about tangential annoyances
| --e.g. article or website formats, name collisions, or back-
| button breakage") but jfc who thought this design was even
| remotely a good idea?
| mindcrime wrote:
| Somebody who doesn't want the same bland, boring, homogenized
| look that every other website in the world is using?
|
| Personally I like a site that shows a bit of personality.
| It's quirky, but for an open source web framework written in
| Guile, it looks about perfect to me.
| viraptor wrote:
| I agree and it's a fun look. If anyone actually can't read
| it, the reader mode button is available and works just
| fine.
| einpoklum wrote:
| At first I thought Artanis was a new font! And even reading the
| text I couldn't shake the impression that they were offering me
| this weird font with each character cut up by horizontal lines.
|
| When I zoomed in it looks kind of cute. Maybe I should download
| the Artanis font after all.
| realo wrote:
| It looks like the DUNE font:
|
| https://www.dafont.com/dune-rise.font
| UncleOxidant wrote:
| Oh, that's terrible. There's a reason we don't have dot matrix
| printers anymore.
| ammanley wrote:
| The Executor struggles to decipher the font of the document.
| 01HNNWZ0MV43FF wrote:
| > it's a web application framework written in Guile Scheme
| sourcepluck wrote:
| > GNU Artanis is both the official project of GNU operating
| system, and HardenedLinux community.
|
| In what capacity is Artanis an official project of the
| HardenedLinux community? I'm curious what this means.
| zelias wrote:
| En Taro Adun!
| rubiquity wrote:
| I'm sure this web framework will have many zealots.
| debo_ wrote:
| We know it has at least one arbiter!
| AdmiralAsshat wrote:
| > In the beginning, Artanis was largely inspired by Ruby on Rails
| to generate the scaffold code as possible. And the URL remapping
| API was inspired by Sinatra, another web framework of Ruby.
| That's why it's named "Artanis", since it's the revserse of
| "Sinatra".
|
| And here I thought (and I'm assuming others, based on the cheeky
| comments) it was named for the Starcraft character.
| Chabsff wrote:
| You're not as wrong as you think you are.
|
| "Have you ever said my name backwards? There is a strange music
| to it" - Artanis (SC2 LOTV)
| fithisux wrote:
| I love their homepage.
| bainganbharta wrote:
| Perhaps it's time for an eye exam?
| f1refly wrote:
| What's not to like?
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