[HN Gopher] A joke in approximating numbers raised to irrational...
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       A joke in approximating numbers raised to irrational powers
        
       Author : nomemory
       Score  : 63 points
       Date   : 2024-11-18 16:41 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | sevensor wrote:
       | sin x = x
       | 
       | Half the problems in EE become trivial once you learn this.
       | Sometimes the universe does a bad job of complying with the
       | approximation though.
        
         | pkoird wrote:
         | I am not sure I understand. Sin(x) approaches x only when x
         | approaches 0. When else does the universe does a bad job with
         | this approximation?
        
           | philipov wrote:
           | sin(x)=x in the same way that c=p=1 when doing cosmology.
        
             | bubblyworld wrote:
             | At least you can often recover the constants after the fact
             | with dimensional analysis in cosmology =P
        
               | mr_mitm wrote:
               | 1=c=G=hbar and sometimes =k is not even a joke, that's
               | just natural units. Pi=e=1 however ... is only half a
               | joke, because cosmologists are often only interested in
               | orders of magnitudes, and even those are sometimes
               | approximated.
        
           | adgjlsfhk1 wrote:
           | the joke is that sometimes the universe is bad at making sure
           | x always approaches 0.
        
         | dotancohen wrote:
         | Are you familiar with the Taylor series? That's the first organ
         | of the Taylor series, something like two decades ago I checked
         | how accurate it goes past 20 organs:
         | 
         | https://dotancohen.com/eng/taylor-sine.php
        
           | sevensor wrote:
           | Oh yeah, for sure. And if you like a good time, compare the
           | Taylor series at x=0 for sin(x) to that for exp(jx).
        
         | m463 wrote:
         | pi = 3.2
         | 
         | (that is an assignment statement)
         | 
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_pi_bill
        
           | wmwmwm wrote:
           | My aero engineering friend from university winds me up every
           | time I see him saying that pi = 22/7 - I finally stopped
           | getting angry, checked and it's pretty good! I'm still glad
           | he didn't decide to design planes after he graduated though!
        
         | setopt wrote:
         | Since e^(2pi) = 1, we can also conclude that e^(2pifx) =
         | 1^(fx). This makes Complex Fourier Transforms quite trivial.
        
       | enugu wrote:
       | One interesting result implies that numbers like 3^(sqrt(3)) will
       | be transcendental (ie no polynomial will evaluate them to 0).
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelfond%E2%80%93Schneider_theo...
        
         | immibis wrote:
         | No polynomial with rational coefficients. Of course x-y
         | evaluates to 0 when x=y, even if y is a transcendental number.
        
         | wging wrote:
         | Small but important correction: no polynomial with integer
         | coefficients (equivalently, rational coefficients). p(x) = (x -
         | 3^(sqrt(3))) is a perfectly fine polynomial with real
         | coefficients.
        
       | jbmsf wrote:
       | Happy to see someone else who watches Michael Penn videos.
        
         | epistasis wrote:
         | I came here to say the same thing!
         | 
         | YouTube has become a fantastic place for this long tail of
         | content, in this particular case a bunch of interesting math
         | problems and tricks presented on a blackboard. Or, even full
         | classes, from a person focused on honing pedagogy.
         | 
         | 3blue1brown is another amazing channel for math as well.
         | 
         | I have a feeling that this sort of content is the seeds of very
         | great things for humanity. In the 20th century, ET Jaynes talks
         | about how people never get credit in academia for creating
         | simpler paths to greater understanding. But with YouTube,
         | creators can both reach an audience and also find patrons to
         | support them, or maybe even make a living off of YouTube
         | directly with enough viewers.
         | 
         | Motivated students have such resources at their fingertips just
         | from an internet connection, if they happen to get lucky enough
         | to find the right resources.
        
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