[HN Gopher] Valve developers discuss why Half Life 2: Episode 3 ...
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       Valve developers discuss why Half Life 2: Episode 3 was abandoned
        
       Author : speckx
       Score  : 23 points
       Date   : 2024-11-18 22:06 UTC (53 minutes ago)
        
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       | fullshark wrote:
       | So they had no idea where to go next and were tired. That's
       | reasonable. Seems to be what happens to most long running pop
       | culture entertainment products, but creators usually have
       | mortgages to pay and can't alternatively devote their energies to
       | building out something more lucrative like Steam.
        
         | rightbyte wrote:
         | L4D was a real hit though. I don't think they let anyone or
         | them self (the artistic spirit, not Valve) down.
        
         | davidczech wrote:
         | I think Half Life: Alyx really is their "Half Life 3" - there's
         | no game I've played that comes close to anything like it. It's
         | fairly clear in hindsight they opted for a prequel to
         | disassociate with the baggage HL3 carries, in all aspects.
        
         | Wowfunhappy wrote:
         | I don't think it's reasonable. When you release part of an
         | episodic story, you are making an implicit promise to your
         | audience that you _will_ finish the story! Even more so if you
         | end on a cliffhanger.
         | 
         | This applies just as much to George R. R. Martin, btw.
        
           | Mistletoe wrote:
           | I think a lot of video game companies get into this trap. I
           | can't speak for others but for me, I don't care about
           | technical innovation, just give me more Skyrim, Witcher,
           | Fallout, Half Life, Baldur's Gate, Elden Ring story. It's not
           | rocket science. Put all the money you wanted to give to tech
           | guys that want to revamp the engine every year into hiring
           | amazing writers and art direction people.
        
             | bartread wrote:
             | I don't know: then you just end up with the videogame
             | equivalent of the MCU which, at my most charitable, I would
             | describe as uneven reaching mid at best. However, if we
             | look at the median of how I feel about MCU, I'm just bored
             | to tears with it. It's utter bilge. You just end up with
             | this meaningless churning out of endless content for
             | content's sake that goes nowhere and signifies nothing.
             | Destiny 2 is actually a great example of this in the world
             | of videogames.
        
           | mrbungie wrote:
           | I mean, no product is better than a shitty product in this
           | case.
        
             | Wowfunhappy wrote:
             | I actually don't agree! They need to resolve the
             | cliffhanger. Leaving it unresolved retroactively makes the
             | whole package worse.
             | 
             | That's not to say they should pull a Mass Effect 3, but it
             | doesn't need to be some earth shattering gameplay
             | experience.
        
           | zeroCalories wrote:
           | Bro it's just a video game, and at the end of the day you
           | need inspired people to make a art. I would prefer they just
           | stop and refocus instead of forcing out some corporate slop.
        
         | righthand wrote:
         | They also built up the myth both internally and externally that
         | nothing they developed for the game was good enough, when
         | people were already satisfied with the current mechanics. They
         | wore themselves out saying it could be anything and accepting
         | nothing. A monster of their own creation that is easily killed
         | with a little humility. It is their desire to be unreasonable
         | that led them there.
         | 
         | Not reasonable at all IMO.
        
       | hnthrowaway0328 wrote:
       | What a tragedy. I hope the community projects go better.
        
       | add-sub-mul-div wrote:
       | Also, the rent-seeking middleman business for PC games is easier
       | and more profitable.
        
         | righthand wrote:
         | Hold on, just need to validate this comment by phoning home. In
         | the mean time enjoy DOOM for $1 this holiday season.
        
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