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The Impact of Jungle Music in 90s Video Game Development
Author : atan2
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Date : 2024-11-13 18:43 UTC (1 days ago)
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| MrAlex94 wrote:
| Related to this is the Buck Bumble[1] theme song[2]:
|
| > "That's the whole point of it, we didn't want to do sort of
| boring techno stuff as well, or jungle, so we picked speed
| garage, it's funkier than house and garage."[3]
|
| [1]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_Bumble
|
| [2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8FQ-N0zb2U)
|
| [3]: https://archive.org/details/64-magazine-15/page/n39/mode/1up
| egypturnash wrote:
| this is fucking hilarious
| polishdude20 wrote:
| When I read jungle music I totally thought about Diddy Kong
| Racing or the Donkey King games for SNES.
| josteink wrote:
| Nah. It's more in the direction of whatever this is:
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isiVdlz8bDY
|
| It's educational, reference real events and you may have a
| laugh at the same time ;)
| itishappy wrote:
| This is the video I cam here to see. This guy's a wizard.
| Here's two of my other favs (the second is more my speed, but
| the first is more fun):
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqpa418gcKc
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDKpQQ4NoNA
| schnitzelstoat wrote:
| This was hilarious!
| toast0 wrote:
| If we're sharing jungle music videos... here's my favorite
| recent release.
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1xneKsFArY
| Bartkusa wrote:
| I totally thought about Tetrisphere on N64:
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRMN7GzZ3ic&list=PLE0926B068...
| bliblablub4 wrote:
| Donkey Kong is peak jungle music (besides other music types
| (which is basically all of them)). Sometimes I imagine that
| when the first jungle evolved, it did so because it anticipated
| that Donkey Kong will eventually be created. As something
| inevitable. And so is the ocean, the tundra, pretty much
| everything. Sounds unlikely? Listen to the Soundtrack und think
| again. Something so beautiful, so magnificent, it's like the
| opus magnum of some higher being. Something for us to ponder
| about, to marvel at. Just like life itself.
| polishdude20 wrote:
| We should be friends.
| austinallegro wrote:
| Wicked! Wicked! Jungle is massive!
|
| https://youtu.be/O7TklQTeuSE
| cut3 wrote:
| in cred ible
| slim wrote:
| in cre di ble
| imp0cat wrote:
| Oh, care for a trip down the memory lane? :)
|
| https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5JibYKhC4GaAZXoDypqyAm
| ahartmetz wrote:
| I believe it's "Junglist massive" with massive ~= crowd ...or
| is that intentional with Ali G's spelling abilities...
| stanleykm wrote:
| it is junglist massive and i dont think thats the kind of
| mistake ali g would make but i can understand how someone
| would hear jungle is massive
| vanderZwan wrote:
| My favorite version of that song is General Levy's surprise
| guest appearance during a live Grime session[0]. The full 22
| minutes are also worth a listen to, and this isn't even my type
| of music usually[1].
|
| [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8aa1N9Vcfc
|
| [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOIF7iUn-Z8
| miek wrote:
| hahaha I have listened to [1] about a trillion times, I can't
| believe im seeing this on hn
|
| set was magical
| vanderZwan wrote:
| Absolutely! Like I said, normally I don't really connect
| with this kind of music. But I've noticed in general that
| really great live performances let me break through
| whatever it is that is normally "blocking" me. This set is
| an amazing example of that.
| pacaro wrote:
| Hence why it is so easy to get lost in there
| gustavopezzi wrote:
| Author here. Thanks for sharing the blog post on HN; it was a
| nice surprise to see it in the first page.
| jamal-kumar wrote:
| cool to see ace combat 2 in there cause i love bullet hell
| games. was wild trying it on MAME instead of an arcade cabinet,
| hooked up to a subwoofer and realizing what genre it was cause
| your typical cabinet doesn't go loud enough to hear like half
| the song in the sub bass
|
| also funny how you can beat the game as a dolphin flying a
| plane haha
| mason55 wrote:
| FYI you have a typo in there. You wrote "JTL Bukem" but it
| should be "LTJ Bukem". LTJ being short for "Long Time Junglist"
| jsheard wrote:
| Also "Examples of popular drum brakes" should be "breaks".
| fb03 wrote:
| Drum brakes is an excellent typo tho ahah
| addled wrote:
| Now I desperately want to see drum breaks made with brake
| drums.
| mometsi wrote:
| For this set I'm gonna need a 5HP turntable with dual
| 4-jaw chucks
| samatman wrote:
| You have gotten the history here dead wrong:
|
| > _The techno scene originated in Germany, reached the UK, and
| it was later associated with the Chicago & Detroit EDM scene in
| America._
|
| Techno was invented in Detroit, house music in Chicago. Germany
| like techno. In no sense whatsoever did they invent or
| originate it.
| louthy wrote:
| You're right, but it's also worth noting that the Belleville
| Three [1] were heavily influenced by Kraftwerk (electro)
|
| [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Belleville_Three
| evanelias wrote:
| I'd argue the article gets the history of jungle itself quite
| wrong too... there's no mention of breakbeat hardcore, no
| mention of Shut Up and Dance collaborating with Ragga Twins,
| etc.
|
| Fabio and Grooverider are seminal figures to the scene, yes,
| but they did not originate the sound.
| pacaro wrote:
| The sidebar about pirate radio, while factually correct,
| seems to heavily imply that pirate radio started in the
| jungle era, but Radio Caroline was broadcasting in the 60s
| gustavopezzi wrote:
| Hi there. That was probably just a small mistake on how I
| tried to explain the paragraph or the poor choice of
| words/terms I used. Thanks for the heads up.
| Intermernet wrote:
| I've had this argument too many times, and it's not worth
| repeating. Yes, techno is from Detroit, influenced by
| Kraftwerk, influenced by Stevie Wonder, influenced by
| Stockhausen etc etc. Where it comes from is defined by where
| you draw a line in the sand.
| samatman wrote:
| Influenced by DJ Kool Herc more than any of those, I would
| wager.
|
| I was AFK all night after posting this, but I actually
| regret not acknowledging international contributions to
| techno music and culture, which was and is huge.
|
| But I can't agree with this:
|
| > _Where it comes from is defined by where you draw a line
| in the sand._
|
| There was a time before anyone called music 'techno', and a
| time after. That's the line, and the part of history which
| crossed that line happened in the Detroit Metro area.
| There's no disputing this.
|
| Techno parties are all about having a good time and
| welcoming everyone, no matter who they are or where they're
| from. The music is absolutely a blend of influences from
| all over, and Germans took to it (hard!) for a reason. But
| roots is roots.
| evanelias wrote:
| I totally agree that there's no disputing the origin of
| techno, but personally I'm not convinced it matters much
| to the broader history of jungle. Two reasons: house
| predates techno by several years; and the historical
| connection from house to jungle is a bit easier to trace
| than any influence of Detroit techno.
|
| Both Chicago house and NYC/NJ Garage house developed in
| the early to mid 80s, whereas techno (as a term as well
| as a cohesive sound) didn't become a thing until the late
| 80s.
|
| To be clear, I'm not trying to downplay the absolutely
| massive importance of the Belleville Three at all. But I
| would consider Juan Atkins' early work to be electro,
| rather than techno. And meanwhile Kevin Saunderson's best
| songs always felt more house-like than techno to my ear.
|
| Anyway, jungle's most immediate predecessor was UK
| breakbeat hardcore, which combined breakbeats from funk
| and hip hop, with synth influences from acid house
| (Chicago) and new beat (Belgium), among other house-
| derived genres. I guess I just don't hear much of a
| techno influence in early jungle. In my view, that
| doesn't come in until some slightly later drum and bass
| subgrenres like techstep.
|
| That all said, definitely agree that the timeline
| described in the article (which gave credit to Germany
| and the UK) is just plain wrong.
| gustavopezzi wrote:
| Thanks for the heads up. It's funny how we encounter
| different sources telling us different things about the
| history of these subgenres. I'll go back and review/expand
| that paragraph soon.
| ftreader4350 wrote:
| It seems quite silly to mention it, but the the phrase
| 'EDM' here really made me more upset than it possibly
| should. Call it 'House' genericlly, call it 'techno'
| generically, but please don't call it EDM generically, as
| that as many other's have mentioned is a sub genre coined
| way later to describe a bland watered down distant cousin
| of 'House' music. It really detracts from the great article
| in a Steve Buscemi with a skateboard kind of way.
| bananapub wrote:
| _this_ is also incorrect, EDM has multiple meanings over
| time and space - are you being annoyed at the
| contemporary American use of it to mean "inoffensive
| dance music"?
|
| wikipedia has a whole section on it: https://en.wikipedia
| .org/wiki/Electronic_dance_music#Termino...
| helboi4 wrote:
| Agreed. EDM just means Electronic Dance Music. The issue
| is that it has also become the name of a generic genre of
| such music that is terrible and that is the visceral
| image most people get when you say the acronym. But that
| image is inaccurate.
| gustavopezzi wrote:
| I agree. To be honest, I don't think I ever used the term
| EDM before in my life, but I went with the same
| expression that my sources used.
| helboi4 wrote:
| Honestly it's more complicated than that. At the same time
| that techno was being created in Detroit, EBM was being
| created in Germany and the UK. When techno came back over
| from Detroit, it as influenced by those things. So modern
| techno can be said to have both European and African American
| roots independently. I would say its more accurate to say it
| originated in Detroit since that is the main basis for the
| sound, but it is extremely transatlantic.
| jamal-kumar wrote:
| I've been having a lot of fun learning trackers as a little hobby
| in the past year with a cheap portable midi keyboard and some
| samples to play around with. There's just so many resources to
| learn from these days on youtube which didn't exist 5-10 years
| ago and I guarantee you if you have the time for it you can go
| from downloading renoise and a bunch of samples to bumping out
| some songs within a week or two of learning. There's also a lot
| to be said for the kind of sound you get out of older hardware,
| you have kids who are like 20 years old picking up these things
| and doing shit like emulating the DSP in there to create a VST
| for use on modern systems for those who don't want to drop a
| bunch of money on getting an amiga 500 shipped to their door [1],
| but you also have people pretty much just doing that and busting
| out octamed or protracker. Lots of cool clips out there [2]. If
| anyone is looking to have some fun with all this I suggest bizzy
| b's channel [3], the 'groovin in g' channel [4], as well as
| stranjah's channel on youtube [5]
|
| [1] https://potenzadsp.com/plugins/amigo/
|
| [2] https://www.instagram.com/p/C0Pf1bNPgWy/?hl=en
|
| [3] https://www.youtube.com/@TheBizzyBScience
|
| [4] https://www.youtube.com/@groovining
|
| [5] https://www.youtube.com/@STRANJAH
| miek wrote:
| Good stuff here, and if you don't have decent
| headphones/speakers, it just won't sound the same.
|
| For anyone needing an excellent subwoofer, check out RSL
| Speedwoofer 10e ($299) or 10s. What a world of difference a
| good sub makes.
| jamal-kumar wrote:
| Really the best sound test is done on a few things though,
| you also want to see how it sounds on whatever consumer audio
| solutions you have sitting around (the car especially is a
| good test)
| buildsjets wrote:
| It's ruff in the jungle business. RIP Keith.
| kristianp wrote:
| Sad he's no longer the paint we tasted.
| the__alchemist wrote:
| I didn't know this genre was a thing. I'm hooked!
| miek wrote:
| You might need Ishkur's guide :D https://music.ishkur.com/
| croisillon wrote:
| thanks for that, reminds me of epitonic.com
| zolland wrote:
| here are my favorites showing up in gameplay footage:
|
| Soul of the Samurai:
| https://youtu.be/JAyu7o_t_Ys?si=6RvvXtpsLyxXndCu&t=7190
|
| Ace Combat 2:
| https://youtu.be/_ylkb5td5K0?si=LJw4bf3JsDilDEnf&t=114
| louthy wrote:
| If anyone's interested and wants to hear more, I have a mix of
| 92/93 era Jungle [1]
|
| Some rough mixes here and there (especially the first one)
| because it was live from a NYE event. But it suits the style of
| music, that era was so raw and fresh, the future was being
| invented right there! Very happy days :)
|
| 1) DJ SS - Intro
|
| 2) Higher Sense - Cold Fresh Air
|
| 3) Deep Blue - The Helicopter Tune
|
| 4) Roni Size - Time Stretch (93 Mix)
|
| 5) DMS & The Boneman X - Sweet Vibrations
|
| 6) Engineers Without Fears - Spiritual Aura
|
| 7) Omni Trio - Soul Promenade
|
| 8) Codename John - Kindred
|
| 9) Brainkillers - Screwface
|
| 10) Dubtronix - Fantasy (Remix)
|
| 11) M-Beat - Incredible
|
| 12) DJ Rap - Your Mind (Gimp/Steve Mix)
|
| 13) Asend & Ultravibe - What Kind Of World
|
| 14) LTJ Bukem - Horizons
|
| 15) Bruck Wild - Silent Dub
|
| [1] https://on.soundcloud.com/WjQVyJRfYMyQLP3f8
| jamal-kumar wrote:
| Nice selection!
|
| One of the things I noticed with a bunch of the younger
| producers is that they make really nice tunes but they don't
| bother with the whole intro/outro thing so there's no buffer on
| either end of the track to mix the thing unless you go add them
| yourself before even attempting to get them in with a bunch of
| older choons meant for mixing. like this is great [1], but 1:34
| minutes lmao what? On the other hand people who have been at it
| since the very early days are still quietly releasing alot,
| here's some secret dillinja cuts [2]
|
| [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M77SxLGAxWg
|
| [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfyHx7SCn3g
| bbbambambam wrote:
| True,but more modern mixing equipment has made loops a lot
| easier so I just tend to make my own intros in the mix
| jamal-kumar wrote:
| Yeah that's the way to go for sure
| blacksignal wrote:
| iirc helicopter tune was in midnight club 3. jungle makes for
| great racing music
|
| I didn't expect a jungle setlist while browsing HN -- bless
| louthy wrote:
| > I didn't expect a jungle setlist while browsing HN
|
| I didn't ever expect to post one! :D
| c0nsumer wrote:
| Having a few random mixes of yours I've (somehow) collected
| over the years amongst others, I didn't expect to click
| through a random Soundcloud link and see your name.
|
| Thanks for all the great tunes!
| louthy wrote:
| Ah, thank you :)
| sneak wrote:
| Someone used up their "one time!"
| trollied wrote:
| I'm going to see Bukem on Saturday, really looking forward to
| it!
| miek wrote:
| Nice!! It's too bad MC Conrad died this year, they were
| killer together.
| E39M5S62 wrote:
| Damn! The Progression Session albums, the third one in
| particular, are absolutely amazing. When the album rolls in
| to Track #2, 'Big Bud - Pure', with him and DRS ... it's
| just magical.
| alexpatin wrote:
| only had the chance to see him once before. he is one of my
| favorites. his cosmic twilight sets from tipper and friends
| events are killer.
| admackey wrote:
| Glad to find some music friends on HN. Hope LTJ makes it to
| the states sometime again soon.
| admackey wrote:
| Ltj bukem? He's played at the Tipper and friends festivals a
| few times - check out his two sets from TnF and his
| Glastonbury set if you haven't yet!
| mahmoudimus wrote:
| Saw him and Conrad sometime back. RIP MC Conrad. Was bonkers.
| Great ch00ns :) have fun!
| theideaofcoffee wrote:
| Wild, have a great time! Low-key jealous. Passed so much time
| spinning Bukem and MC Conrad during long hacking sessions,
| made for a perfect atmosphere. Too bad you can't see them
| together anymore, RIP.
| austinallegro wrote:
| I'll just leave this here...
|
| https://youtu.be/9hJ4OROIvxY
|
| ...and as a bonus, have this 'n all...
|
| https://youtu.be/HImPRflyyJk
|
| ...and as it's a Wednesday, have this as a freebie:
|
| https://youtu.be/M_tKjqUK5lM
| dylan604 wrote:
| > that era was so raw and fresh, the future was being invented
| right there! Very happy days
|
| I've been told by several Gen-Z that they've never been to a
| "rave", and I feel sorry for them. In my town, we had quite the
| underground scene, but then times changed and it is so much
| smaller now. Now, "kids" just call it all EDM instead of the
| specific genre that we know and love.
| louthy wrote:
| There's still plenty of fresh underground music and the
| 'kids' are doing just fine. Yeah there's loads of mainstream
| garbage out there, but there always was. The main difference
| is that this stuff was being invented, whereas most
| electronic music now is derived from those early 90s invented
| genres, but even saying that there's still plenty of
| creativity.
|
| There's a night in London called Cartulis (which is usually
| at Fold), when I go there it feels very much like the early
| rave scene to me (this is just one example, of course). I
| think there's a tendency when we get older to not be as
| exposed to the bubbling undercurrent of music, so it's easy
| to just say "it's not as good as it used to be", but that
| would be a mistake imho. It's there if you look for it.
| dylan604 wrote:
| I didn't intend someone taking away from that no fresh
| music was being made. I simply said that the parties of old
| are no longer happening, so that experience isn't available
| to them.
|
| I'm constantly listening to new music, and I've come up
| with lots of new tracks that will make a helluva set list,
| one day. Problem I have is only owning 1200s, and none of
| the gear to let those drive digital files. My discretionary
| funds for gear has evolved into other things so buying the
| right equipment gets pushed lower on the priority list
| stanleykm wrote:
| is serato no longer a thing?
| dylan604 wrote:
| It is. You want to give me your or buy me one? ;-) I
| never said it wasn't a thing, only that my discretionary
| fund for such things prevents me for purchasing them.
| lewispollard wrote:
| Serato Lite is free (as in beer) and you just need to buy
| a pair of timecoded vinyl records, which are pretty
| cheap.
| stackghost wrote:
| Ehhh, raves are definitely still a thing in Vancouver at
| least
| MivLives wrote:
| PNW in general. Seattle is for sure active. They're not
| even that hard to find if you go looking for them.
| WaxProlix wrote:
| I've not found that to be the case, though I'm only
| casually interested these days (too old to feel
| comfortable at most events, worried I'm more there to
| relive the good old days than a 'genuine' interest etc).
|
| With dB festival gone, do people just hit up showbox or
| monkey loft shows and try to make friends?
| MivLives wrote:
| 19hz has a good listing of events. A lot of it is
| announced on Instagram or Telegram (or the old classic of
| looking at the fliers on the telephone poles of cap
| hill). Renegades still happen (the bridge has been a
| super popular spot) but that season is sorta over. I more
| favor the Kremwork (that's more my scene) or digital
| hardcore shows which seem to just pop up everywhere.
| WaxProlix wrote:
| Awesome stuff thanks, as to kremwork I wasn't aware
| they'd survived little marias closing - glad to hear some
| culture is left in the city. Funny to hear of it via HN
| but hey small world.
| wintermutestwin wrote:
| This comment would have be so useful to me if you could
| have at minimum dropped some breadcrumbs.
|
| As an oldster who has only recently gotten into edm, I am
| clue free on where to begin finding anything underground
| and mainstream venues suck.
| jamal-kumar wrote:
| I can second Vancouver, and will raise you any big city
| in the USA - most of Latin America as well. Only thing
| that changes as usual is regionally based music tastes,
| though I find that people actually dance a hell of a lot
| more outside the anglosphere
|
| Europe is a given but I hear Asia is popping off too. I
| have friends in Oceania who do some work around the
| scene. Really it's all over the world, people never
| stopped partying it just goes a little more underground
| here and there
| PawgerZ wrote:
| >I can second Vancouver, and will raise you any big city
| in the USA
|
| I'll reraise you any decent size college town in the US
| as well.
|
| Heck, I'm in Iowa and there's plenty of raves in the
| middle of nowhere here.
| jamal-kumar wrote:
| Those are the best places these days. It sucks when clubs
| get closed in urban areas but there's still plenty of
| parties happening where you're bothering nobody, and
| nobody will bother you.
|
| I think I'm at the age where I'm more interested in
| participating as someone actually creating part of the
| entertainment if I'm going to feel like I'm having the
| best time though, I think that's probably the best way
| for anyone to get into it. Lots of volunteer
| opportunities at festivals and of course paid gigs you
| can do. If you're a programmer, maybe getting deep into
| visuals is a way you can have some fun contributing too.
|
| There are raves happening in warzones and even places you
| think there would be authoritarian crackdowns like China
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp2qB9qXJ1w
| Blahah wrote:
| Rave culture is alive and well in the UK - free parties
| several days a week around Bristol and south Wales. Old
| heads and the younguns collaborating usually.
| Gud wrote:
| You are simply disconnected. The rave scene is thriving.
| Nursie wrote:
| Probably depends where you are.
|
| Here in Western Australia there still seems to be a "Bush
| Doof" party scene. I'm way to old to know the details of
| that though.
| pfannkuchen wrote:
| Was it being invented or discovered?
|
| I feel like with each new wave of music technology, people
| basically search the space for a while until the fruitful
| sub spaces are identified.
|
| The novelty of the exploration is what is there the first
| time and not there in the future. You don't know what's
| going to sound good until someone happens to bump into it.
| You get surprises.
| dylan604 wrote:
| hey, you got your drum-n-bass in my trance!
|
| no, you got your trance in my drum-n-bass.
|
| that new wave of technology meant that anyone with access
| to warez could create music for $0 instead of the
| thousands on buying synths and samplers. no more renting
| a truck to haul that gear to a gig; now it's just a
| laptop and/or tablet. new choons level achieved
| CuriouslyC wrote:
| I'm interested in a lot of subculture music, and it really
| isn't there like it was for the most part. Most families of
| music seem to have stagnated or regressed. The early 90s
| gangster rap is definitely superior to mumble rap/emo rap,
| the 90s IDM/jungle/trance is superior to modern
| EDM/house/trap and the pop mainstream now is just garbage
| compared to the the mainstream from the late 80s/90s.
|
| Mixing and production are worlds better and musicianship
| has improved compared to where it was for genres where
| people care about musicianship, but the actual music is
| mostly either painfully derivative or actively worse
| because it's trying too hard to be "different."
|
| Modern metal is amazing compared to the stuff from the 90s
| though.
| dylan604 wrote:
| > Mixing and production are worlds better
|
| Long gone are the days of "shoes in the dryer" mixes
| where guys were just slamming two DATs together with no
| pitch control. Sadly, I think we've gotten to the point
| of those tight mixes being less of the skill of the DJ
| and the result of software. With everything being done on
| laptops with cool software, I really wonder how many DJs
| are even mixing and just performing while a premixed file
| plays.
|
| But as you say, the production quality has definitely
| improved. The music is just clean with no quality loss
| from layering/multi-tracking/bouncing. The concept of the
| space between notes has never been so distinguished.
| wileydragonfly wrote:
| 99.99999% of DJs have been performing a premade mix since
| iPods have become popular. The knob twiddling DJs are
| hilarious. Ukraine, oddly, seems to be pumping out tons
| of attractive women dancing off beat behind setups that
| aren't even powered on half the time on YouTube. I enjoy
| the mixes in the background while working and
| occasionally watch some footage for the laughs. Shake it
| if you've got it.
| magic123_ wrote:
| As always, it depends on what style you're talking about.
| For mainstream EDM? Sure I won't fight your figure. But
| for underground techno (among many others), you're
| delusional if you think the majority of djs play pre-
| recorded mixes.
| helboi4 wrote:
| So many absolutely ignorant people who are just dying to
| accelerate their degeneration into some sort of grumpy
| misogynist old man at a premature age in this comment
| section.
|
| No. If you are in a serious electronic music scene,
| nobody is playing premade mixes off their ipods. All the
| clubs I go to only have just an upgraded version of the
| same CDJs that were being released in the early 2000s. We
| mix tracks we bought on sites like bandcamp and beatport
| on professional equipment. The crowd is educated and
| would throw someone out of the whole scene if they
| actually started playing a premade mix.
|
| Those people who fake it make social media videos that go
| viral with people who spend their time online and have
| never been to a real rave or underground club (or who go
| to commercial EDM events - which are not representative
| of the booming underground) - nobody in the scene
| actually listens to that stuff and theres a lot of us.
| None of them would ever get booked at a serious event.
|
| And, for the record, there is a boatload of very
| talented, super attractive female DJs in the scene and
| they DJ manually. Most of the vinyl only Djs that I've
| seen live were female and they weren't ugly either to
| make up for their femaleness. I know you think a woman
| can only be talented if she hides her distracting
| attractiveness.
|
| Check your ignorance when you're clearly not in the loop
| of the scene.
| MrScruff wrote:
| Honestly as someone that learnt to mix many years ago on
| vinyl, the technical skill required to do this well
| doesn't translate into a better experience for the people
| dancing. It's not a rock concert with a performer,
| there's no need to look at the DJ anyway. I care
| infinitely more about the DJs creative sensibility than
| their beatmatching skill.
| hyggetrold wrote:
| _> Modern metal is amazing compared to the stuff from the
| 90s though._
|
| I know what you mean but Metallica, Pantera, and Emperor
| (black metal) are still all-time classic staples in my
| discography.
| ahartmetz wrote:
| May not be your favorite, but Blind Guardian's 90s
| material is seriously good, too.
| hyggetrold wrote:
| I'm down with Blind Guardian, they're fun!
| jorvi wrote:
| I agree with you as far as Hip-Hop quality goes (assuming
| that "gangster" encompasses things like Old School East
| Coast, G-Funk, etc). There was a beauty in how limited
| the production assets of Hip-Hop were in those days,
| which fostered a very special kind of creativity. Not to
| mention how it intermixed with the afro-zeitgeist of that
| time.
|
| But for example techno and house these days have such a
| gargantuan amount of variety. And because those genres
| were digital-ish to begin with, they didn't suffer as
| much from the evolution of DAWs compared to some other
| genres.
|
| This would have done well at a 90s rave (especially from
| 4:45 onward):
| https://open.spotify.com/track/5v2NmAWURnM260nd2acPLr
|
| I guess for "90s" Metal it strongly varies how much
| studio backing there was and if it is early or late 90s.
| Late 90s sounds great:
| https://open.spotify.com/track/0JBQnLKfLXmlkquabLtAgd?
|
| Three related playlist:
|
| - Very underground 90s Hip-Hop cuts:
| https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1LhtrTYYMKu8G33paRWFIL
|
| - Rave-y Techno:
| https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7ktoUGruqYdoY3vLhDDtaB
|
| - All sorts of Metal with melodic elements:
| https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1Wec2pdudcDyIHvOu4fL7b
| steezeburger wrote:
| I don't agree. There are so many niche genres now that
| have never existed before, e.g. vaporwave, phonk, outrun,
| twee, etc. Gotta dig deeper. There is tons of fresh and
| original underground music being made still.
| miek wrote:
| +1 for phonk, for easy access there are some great
| playlists on spotify, just search phonk
| dbspin wrote:
| As a fan of both, I have to admit vaporwave and twee are
| both dead genres - although vaporwave has spawned a host
| of successor stuff, the great innovation there all
| happened a decade and more ago. Twee will always exist,
| but it's hardly a great example of a lively scene.
| rorytbyrne wrote:
| > the 90s IDM/jungle/trance is superior to modern
| EDM/house/trap
|
| This is your own fault for going to EDM/house/trap
| parties. Go to better parties, then you'll find better
| music.
| helboi4 wrote:
| Fr. Don't know why you're getting downvoted. The bitter
| people in this comment section who think electronic music
| died in the 90s clearly wouldn't know a good club if it
| slapped them in the face and it shows.
| CuriouslyC wrote:
| I go to burns/festivals, that's what's typically on
| offer, don't blame me for society's lack of taste.
|
| I enjoy Berlin minimal techno but it's not exactly
| popular.
| helboi4 wrote:
| Again. Going to a festival does not mean you're going to
| a good one. Most of the best music happens in clubs in
| the underground circuit anyway not at "burns", which
| sounds like the most gentrified, millenial techbro yuppie
| garbage I've ever heard and I'm unsurprised you're not
| finding the bleeding edge of underground rave music
| there.
|
| The key word is GOOD. Not that you just go places bro.
| You're clearly unsatisfied with the music you're hearing
| at these events. SO FIND BETTER ONES.
| Nursie wrote:
| > Modern metal is amazing compared to the stuff from the
| 90s though.
|
| Eh, I've still got a lot of time for 80s/early 90s
| thrash. Megadeth mostly, it must be said.
| a57721 wrote:
| I still enjoy the trve kvlt black metal like Darkthrone,
| Burzum, Mayhem, so it's mostly the early 90s for me.
| helboi4 wrote:
| Tell me you're out of the loop without telling me you're
| out of the loop. As someone in my mid 20s, techno music
| is booming and it has zero EDM/house/trap influences.
| Everyone my age thinks EDM is cringe, it was a trend of
| 10 years ago. Go to actually underground sound clubs if
| you know where they are. I'm guessing you don't, because
| you're showing how ignorant you are of the scene. Some
| recently released tracks I picked up as a young techno DJ
| just in the last few weeks/months:
|
| https://soundcloud.com/kmyle/kmyle-empire-
| bns089?si=0ce480e4...
|
| https://soundcloud.com/kmyle/kmyle-cocoon-original-
| mix?si=73...
|
| https://soundcloud.com/hate_music/premiere-introversion-
| sea-...
|
| https://soundcloud.com/regalmusic/regal-
| undisputed?si=a6bdf3...
|
| https://soundcloud.com/darko-esser/darko-esser-
| zondag-2008?s...
|
| https://soundcloud.com/hate_music/premiere-wtchcrft-new-
| frie...
|
| https://soundcloud.com/hate_music/premiere-marco-bailey-
| trai...
| CuriouslyC wrote:
| I was listening to minimal techno before you were born
| friend (check out drumcode/derrick may). I go to
| festivals and you will never hear it.
| helboi4 wrote:
| Bro talks to me like I don't know what Drumcode is. The
| biggest titan in techno music to the point that people
| literally call it "business techno" because it's so
| oversaturated. Yeah I know drumcode. I know who Derrick
| May is, I don't know what sort of thumb-sucking 14 year
| old you think you're talking to. Derrick May is not by
| any stretch of the imagination a purely minimal techno
| artist. He literally made Strings of Life which is one of
| the least fucking minimal things I've ever heard.
|
| You're right, minimal techno is not the most popular form
| of techno right now. That's not a new thing that happened
| in this decade though. Techno has been going through
| trends of being faster and more maximalist vs slower and
| minimalist since it began. I'm sorry that you're
| struggling to find minimal techno nights to your liking,
| I'm sure there are some out there and I'm sure the trend
| will come back around. But the techno of my generation is
| not all EDM or trap influenced so I know you're talking
| out your ass. You may have been to many techno events in
| your life, but what you're saying here just proves you're
| out of the loop like many nostalgic oldheads. So maybe
| just take a step back and consider that you may have lost
| touch with the underground. You certainly have if you
| think drumcode is an underground reference these days.
| CuriouslyC wrote:
| I can tell you're an angry person. You should try
| punching a bag instead of raging at people online.
|
| If I have to go to a club in new york or berlin to hear
| music it's not culturally relevant. The stuff you linked
| gets zero play at festivals.
| helboi4 wrote:
| When you're condescending and make bad faith arguments,
| people will find you frustrating. I'm not sure why you
| want to emulate your grandparents by dismissing younger
| people's creativity just like they did to you. Open your
| mind a bit and try not to become the people you hated.
|
| Edit: Festivals have never been the beating heart of the
| techno scene my friend. I'm sorry to break it to you. And
| again, I've been to good festivals which do play this
| stuff - you clearly don't know where to go and you're
| taking it out on my generation when its on YOU.
| CamperBob2 wrote:
| This thread is an artform in itself. Anthropology
| students will dig it up a thousand years from now and
| walk away with inadequately-paying degrees.
| Tsiklon wrote:
| I miss the days of the regional scenes in music. These
| seem to be long past us now.
|
| Using metal as an example; the 80's and 90's as an
| example had several distinct vibrant scenes, Bergen's
| Black Metal, Gothenburg's Melodeath, Tampa Bay's Death
| Metal, as examples. All distinct and vibrant with a
| period of sustained development with a cluster of artists
| who seemed to circulate and work off each other.
|
| Today it feels easier to connect with others globally
| with music genres we like, but it's almost as if this
| homogenises the art we produce in a sense.
|
| A core collection of 20-40 artists and musicians working
| and operating in isolation (comparative to now), sharing
| what they enjoy, spinning it and innovating it to
| something new.
|
| To genericise it and bring it back to the core of this
| place - In a sense one relate these scenes in a way to
| areas with a particularly strong start-up scene, albeit
| more freeform and wholly artistic in their endeavours.
| miek wrote:
| Given when/where you were, you might be familiar with
| Global Underground. I was excited to learn recently that
| they relaunched in the past couple years
| www.globalunderground.co.uk
| PrismCrystal wrote:
| Global Underground never entirely went away. However, the
| famous label run by the "Boxed brothers" ran into severe
| financial difficulties in the early millennium. Since
| then, I have assumed that Global Underground is a mere
| brand that any prog-ish DJ can pay money to use, to aid
| in promotion.
| helboi4 wrote:
| Fold is the place to be
| morkalork wrote:
| Gentrification and moral panic killed warehouse parties and
| raves.
| dylan604 wrote:
| the local police here formed a Rave Task Force. it became
| very effective, and pretty much killed the scene. it got to
| the point where the cops would show up as the guys were
| unloading the PA from the truck. lots of cat and mouse
| games followed on trying to get past the cops. promoters
| even started lining up alternate locations to relocate if
| something got shut down. then the cops started threatening
| to use crack house laws to arrest the promoters for
| providing a place for drugs to be used. we don't have clubs
| to speak of and mainly just bars. we tried doing events at
| bars, but having to shut down at 2am is just a joke.
| morkalork wrote:
| Yup, exactly this. In the city I'm thinking of it was a
| municipal bylaw allowing for obscene 5-figure fines for
| anyone organizing a rave, even it was just the DJ they
| grabbed. The scene withered after that.
| buildsjets wrote:
| It's just not a real rave until the cops cut the tunes
| and flip on the the house lights at 3AM. Then you get to
| run the gauntlet of berries and cherries while saucered
| and blowed. I do miss what I remember of the '90s.
| dylan604 wrote:
| Cops. Pfftt. Wait till it's an outdoor event where the
| entire sheriff's department rolls up, and all the
| deputies are holding shotguns watching everyone load back
| up in their cars to leave. Or when the ghetto bird is
| loitering overhead with the spot light just to scare the
| party kids.
|
| I know the artist that made the image* used for the
| inside jacket for the Prodigy says it wasn't about rave
| culture, but it's still one of my favorite counter
| culture images.
|
| * https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6c/54/ff/6c54ff7df285244
| d2d56...
|
| Sorry for the Pinterest link. It was the first one to pop
| up in search
| GJim wrote:
| > all the deputies are holding shotguns watching everyone
| load back up in their cars to leave
|
| Tell me you're American without telling me you're
| American.
| 71bw wrote:
| >Gentrification and moral panic killed warehouse parties
| and raves.
|
| With my experience as a Polish Gen Z member, gentrification
| has only made raves MORE popular in here in A.D. 2024.
|
| Bored kids out of good homes, eh...
| chch wrote:
| I was surprised to see Gen Z called out here specifically,
| though I guess it depends on where you live/grow up as well.
| I'd hazard to guess most of the millennials I know also
| haven't been to a rave!
|
| I don't think there were any available in my hometown (or
| they were too underground for me to have ever heard about!),
| and there wasn't much exposure to electronic music at all, so
| it's not an experience I'd ever considered trying to find out
| how to have.
|
| Just one person's anecdote, of course, but I wonder what the
| balance of generation vs. location is!
| dylan604 wrote:
| It's just the specific conversations I've had. I'm in the
| GenX group, and partied with lots of millennials. Based on
| that experience I just rolled millennials into the
| "hasRaved == true" category. While never attending a full
| on rave, my kid has at least attended our old park parties
| we'd throw during the day with permits and everything.
| She'd be an elder GenZ, so at least she was introduced to
| the concept. These other conversations I've had haven't
| even had that.
| underlipton wrote:
| Can confirm. I imagine that it's highly localized, but the
| closest I got was dances at anime conventions and more
| mainstream venues that might play Jersey/Baltimore Club.
|
| Per TFA, most of my exposure music that's now put under the
| EDM umbrella was through video games (DDR...). Also mix-
| discs curated from Limewire downloads, keygens, Windows
| Movie Maker AMVs, and the Newgrounds/Youtube/Bandcamp
| releases of amateur FruityLoops producers.
|
| I suppose what might make this paradigm interesting to
| consider is that it means most of this music was a
| contributing element to some larger project, and not just
| something to enjoy on its own (though you could make the
| case that music at a rave is just a means to forging social
| and emotional connections). As such, there are a lot of
| songs that people my age will recognize immediately, and
| absolutely could not tell you who made them (just where
| they heard it first).
| helboi4 wrote:
| Yep, the rave scene is absolutely booming for gen z. I
| would say the spirit is much more lacking in millenials
| bandrami wrote:
| I'm 48 and I still DJ. The kids are fine. The underground
| scene is still real. D&B is just jungle 14 BPM faster.
| lewispollard wrote:
| > D&B is just jungle 14 BPM faster.
|
| As a jungle fan since the 90s, don't spout that offensive
| nonsense ;)
|
| Seriously, there are marked differences between the two
| other than BPM that make them sound very distinctive (and
| D&B typically boring to me as a result) - generally, jungle
| is heavily syncopated and makes more uses of chopped
| samples vs D&B which tends to be sequenced fairly straight
| and makes more use of programmed drums.
| meindnoch wrote:
| >D&B is just jungle 14 BPM faster.
|
| Nah.
| louthy wrote:
| > D&B is just jungle 14 BPM faster.
|
| Blasphemy!
| ErigmolCt wrote:
| Some places today I think still try to recreate that
| authentic vibe, but still the times have changed
| onion2k wrote:
| Would it still have been an 'underground scene' if everyone
| went?
| 01HNNWZ0MV43FF wrote:
| I'm just not the party type
| acka wrote:
| OP, the link you provided keeps redirecting me to the Google
| Play store to install the SoundCloud app, no matter what
| browser I use to open it. Could you please create a link which
| stays on the SoundCloud website? Not everyone wants to use apps
| on mobile just because some service wants to force you to use
| them.
| louthy wrote:
| I can't edit it, so here's a direct site link:
|
| https://soundcloud.com/paullouth/paul-louth-jungle-mix-
| nye-2...
| acka wrote:
| Thank you very much!
| sltkr wrote:
| In general please don't use Soundcloud to share music. It's
| complete shit. It doesn't even allow seeking unless you
| register for an account. At least Youtube is borderline
| usable without signing in.
| Daneel_ wrote:
| Soundcloud is one of the last bastions of creator-driven
| music hosting - I'm happy to support the platform given
| how useful it is to the indie community. There's a myriad
| of mixes and tunes on there that would simply never exist
| or be found on other platforms.
| louthy wrote:
| It's awful, yes. But it's also where everybody is. So, if
| you have a public profile you need to be on there.
| tannhaeuser wrote:
| Are you kidding? Not only does YT push undesired video
| bloat when you just want to listen to audio, it also is
| ad-driven/-ladden. Basically using YT for audio and Let's
| Play binging is an Alzheimer/Boomer marker, and the
| signal to leave the party.
| 1oooqooq wrote:
| but if you're not a boomer you wouldn't be using the
| default client.
| PrismCrystal wrote:
| Is using uBlock Origin or NewPipe, which have made
| YouTube an ad-free experience for more years now than I
| can remember, a "Boomer marker"? Granted, it isn't
| unusual to see claims in tech circles that younger
| generations today are less aware of certain
| customizations or certain forms of pirating content, but
| it would be a real shame.
| noman-land wrote:
| Never clicked a link faster. OG jungle is something special.
| bloopernova wrote:
| Oh hell yes, thank you for this.
| NetOpWibby wrote:
| Hell yeah, I've been listening to jungle mixes on YouTube since
| this summer and enjoying Jungle Fatigue on Bandcamp. My
| introduction to jungle-esque music was Toonami so it's been fun
| exploring this genre more.
|
| Thanks for sharing your mix!
| cowsaymoo wrote:
| Throwing in Bay Tremore, a legend on the demoscene. Demo is
| such a natural extension to jungle.
|
| Biggest hit: Rocking steady -
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V5xlLs-OQY
|
| I also cannot get this track he made for a 1998 video game out
| of my head:
|
| Tremors - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUKno5p9U04
| kchr wrote:
| Additionally, a lot of jungle music were produced on Amiga
| using the same tracker software as many demosceners (OctaMED,
| ProTracker, etc). Makes me curious of how many junglists were
| also active sceners :-)
|
| For example Pete Cannon:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1eA-FGJ8B0
|
| More recent livesets using dual Amigas, from the Amiga
| Junglism channel:
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHPIxrcjKW4
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P6VxIWFl7g
|
| Some mixtapes:
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NjqNwHidpk
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe3jEA7710s
| hyggetrold wrote:
| Solid selection - I respectfully submit "Hypersleep" as another
| classic 90s DnB tune.
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrR82XLCKq8
| itsoggy wrote:
| Tune!
| vdvsvwvwvwvwv wrote:
| Thanks for the link. Someone who I know who was into that with
| the decks, sampler etc. will love it!
|
| Anyway to avoid app install?
| accrual wrote:
| The original link worked for me in a desktop browser, but
| this direct link was provided by GP in another comment and
| may work for you:
|
| https://soundcloud.com/paullouth/paul-louth-jungle-mix-
| nye-2...
| accrual wrote:
| Awesome Jungle mix, thanks for sharing this!
| Intermernet wrote:
| Some damn good tracks in that list! Mainly commenting so I can
| come back to this list later.
| ErigmolCt wrote:
| That sounds like an amazing set, packed with classics
| KJBweb wrote:
| brilliant set, takes me right back, love it
| jlarcombe wrote:
| Remarc, bit later I suppose:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maXRQmwX3-c
| bitschubser_ wrote:
| Uhhh throwback to simpler times <3 I loved the scene in Basel
| back in the days
|
| For the adventurous Ishkur also has a nice opinionated guide
| through the history of electronic music with much of its facets:
| https://music.ishkur.com/
| imp0cat wrote:
| Let's not forget The Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit and High Stakes
| (both a wonderful mixtures of rock and electronic music).
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Akf4vQs7R9A&list=PLCDB3A4909...
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7dQELIwP0U&list=PLD48C6CD40...
| selimthegrim wrote:
| You beat me to it.
| fuhsnn wrote:
| Before pre-rendering took over, game soundtracks were basically
| tracker mods, beautiful era.
| dm319 wrote:
| If anyone wants to see a continuation of this subculture, have a
| look at this:
|
| https://youtu.be/V_akDC1ztXQ?si=wxMOxlfvaN4IRSnw
|
| and this:
|
| https://youtu.be/iD9xk3SDSYc?si=KD5TvSg4UDMb-sh8
| jamal-kumar wrote:
| People making entire mixes with two amiga 500s between a mixer
| and entirely new tracks
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2k9eMuRwGw
| alt227 wrote:
| This is awesome.
|
| I used to run a Jungle night, and once we booked Paradox to
| play. He brought his entire Amiga set up and we had to
| replace the decks with it for his set. He had to load each
| track from a floppy disk and it took like 2-3 mins whilst the
| beat of the previous track would play out and the crowd
| waited for the next track to load. Crazy seeing a whole
| dancefloor chilling waiting for a floppy disk to load up!
| jamal-kumar wrote:
| This is the trick now:
|
| https://www.ami64.com/product-page/gotek-usb-flash-drive-
| for...
| VyseofArcadia wrote:
| I don't know much about Jungle music, but I do know a lot about
| video games, and I want to shout out the Neo Geo game Shock
| Troopers. One of the best top down run and gun games ever made,
| and I'm told it has a Jungle/DnB soundtrack.
| spacechild1 wrote:
| Another game with a cool jungle soundtrack is "Trick'n
| Snowboarder". The game itself is unremarkable, but I still
| remember the music to this day. For example, check out
| https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=38yTPVGqj8c&t=369s or
| https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=38yTPVGqj8c&t=1477s
| pkkkzip wrote:
| not related but lot of 90s snowboarding games had underrated
| soundtracks
|
| cool boarders 2 come to mind
| littlestripes wrote:
| excellent write-up! always loved this sound to death. great for
| the coding flow states too.
| trollied wrote:
| We can't accept drum and bass we need jungle I'm afraid.
| griffzhowl wrote:
| amen, brother
| sceadu wrote:
| Not sure if you're making a jungle Brothers reference to Amen
| break reference :)
| Intermernet wrote:
| The Amen break comes from a track called "Amen, brother" by
| The Winstons. So your assumption is mostly correct, but
| without the JBs reference
| zer00eyz wrote:
| Amen! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SaFTm2bcac
|
| The very best of jungle was "UK Apache with Shy FX - Original
| Nuttah". It got a bit of re-release for its 25th birthday (5
| years ago) with an intro by Idris Elba.
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GclYmrvWyuY
|
| Ali G gave jungle a moment to shine:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efgIm9YPZvE
|
| And jungle isnt dead its just evolved a bit! Nia Archives -
| Off Wiv Ya Headz from last year:
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrnDC94_Tic
|
| Amen brother, Amen!
| walthamstow wrote:
| Original Nuttah was the last tune at a friend's wedding a
| few weeks ago. A great time was had by all.
| petecooper wrote:
| Context: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ecl2kZBnBnY
| yieldcrv wrote:
| this makes me day
| Kye wrote:
| Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isiVdlz8bDY
| redpandadolphin wrote:
| Vengent is indeed a legend.
| imp0cat wrote:
| Wait, wait, wait! I think I got the wrong USB!
|
| Chaos ensues. He's so great!
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9-p06yiJ6Q (Wheels on
| the bus)
| Kye wrote:
| His vibe-rater series is great too.
| selimthegrim wrote:
| Ah this explains the Halloween candy hiding a USB stick
| meme
| rconti wrote:
| Best thing I've seen all month. Thanks to you both.
| qingcharles wrote:
| https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Na_yeYJMCCc
| sundarurfriend wrote:
| Got me started on watching University Challenge, and now Cosmic
| Pumpkin is one of my very few "must watch new videos right
| away" subscriptions on YouTube.
| 1986 wrote:
| I have to recommend digging into the story behind the person
| who used to upload UC episodes to YouTube before Cosmic
| Pumpkin, and the reason that they stopped uploading. Google
| "Dave Garda", I don't think anyone has done an authoritative
| writeup but it's a wild one.
| sundarurfriend wrote:
| I knew vague outlines of it from YouTube comments, now
| searched it up and found a reddit post that explains it
| more. It would be a bizarre story if it was fiction:
| uploading (and participating in) quiz telecasts, to faking
| one's identity and scamming people via charity, is such a
| weird pipeline. But real life's messy like that, I imagine
| he probably starting to upload things as a genuine fan
| originally, and then changed as a person over the course of
| the years to end up being a scammer.
| psd1 wrote:
| Dammit I watched for 45 minutes waiting for the drop.
| miek wrote:
| "what makes something jungle" -- mini documentary that starts
| with this clip and is packed with history and tracks
|
| https://youtu.be/vDZHEAwDAVo?feature=shared
| BlandDuck wrote:
| "We can't accept drum and bass we need jungle I'm afraid" ;)
| rtuin wrote:
| What a nice writeup. I've listened to jungle and related styles
| on and off over the years but I wasn't aware the music had played
| such a big role in 90's game music!
| tailsdog wrote:
| GTA III MSX FM
| 71bw wrote:
| Timecode step inside the zone. Out to the Moving Shadow crew.
| Goes out to the robots and the Scott, it's the Gav and to the
| Julia long time. 101.1 MSX FM in your manor. Right across the
| border, your time rude boys, yeah out to the email crew,
| msxfm@movingshadow.com , direct link up with us, phone line
| crew 0 double 7 47 114 553 yeah show dedication, all across
| Liberty, all Liberty City massive, south east north and the
| west, yeah spread it across the airwaves sound of the 101.1
| killin the other stations dead, the Liberty City's finest, It's
| live! The groove that sounds the best MSX FM no contest. SHOW
| THEM MISTA TIME CODE!
| selimthegrim wrote:
| Guy called Gerald was definitely on SF-UR in later volumes
| sockbot wrote:
| One of the best sound tracks ever is Street Fighter 3 3rd Strike,
| heavily featuring jungle.
| petecooper wrote:
| Pete Cannon on jungle production techniques:
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDn7ZDcx9w0
| ChrisArchitect wrote:
| To me there is/was a natural connection between electronic music
| and game development just by the sheer involvement with
| _technology_. And jungle just happened to be very popular and
| going thru some major grassroots scene development around the
| same time. Personally, alongside earlier exposure to popular
| /underground dance music, my deeper exposure to electronic music
| came from tracker music and the demoscene which of course went
| hand in hand with developments in the game industry.
| dylan604 wrote:
| It's also just a natural thing for a game to make
| bleeps/bloops/whoomps/booms vs storing raw audio type data.
| dpc050505 wrote:
| I've been playing a bit of 3d pinball space cadet last week
| and I kept thinking how the game sounds could fit wonderfully
| into breakcore and acid tekno tracks.
| Modified3019 wrote:
| There was a game called "SILENT THUNDER: A-10 TANK KILLER II" my
| father had in his collection that I'd ruffle through as a kid.
|
| While the gameplay (brutal flight sim) wasn't that compelling to
| child me, it had a full soundtrack made of multiple genres that
| lives in my brain to this day, especially "Monk's revenge". In
| fact, I think it was setup so that you could put the disk in a CD
| player and have it play as an audio disk. No idea if any of it
| counts as "jungle", but it's very much 90's electronic game
| music.
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9c6PPlkvBE&list=PLc3TVNLOqs...
| HKH2 wrote:
| Jungle has breakbeats, whereas that music is four-on-the-floor.
| thenthenthen wrote:
| Wow this lead me to rediscover this dnb (sry not jungle) cd
| from 24 years ago: a1 sound carrier ii by dj tonic [0]
|
| Never really liked the CD but there are some unique, weird
| tracks on there.
|
| [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D94YaTCeZlU
| 01HNNWZ0MV43FF wrote:
| Lots of games in that era just put the game data as track 1 and
| then filled the rest of the disc with audio tracks, so that
| they could command the disc player to handle all playback for
| them
|
| Rock raiders too
| contingencies wrote:
| 90's games + jungle = obligatory mention of _Jill of the Jungle_
| (1992).
|
| https://www.playdosgames.com/online/jill-of-the-jungle/
| Thaxll wrote:
| Noclip has an amazing documentary about Wipeout 2097 music:
| https://youtu.be/-nwWpQJFGp8?si=f96-_G3bBqmGEP_c
| myself248 wrote:
| Ah, I'm glad the demoscene gets a mention. One does not make
| music on a computer in the 90s without at least some, or
| possibly a whole truckload of, influence from the demoscene.
| miek wrote:
| https://www.pouet.net/ for modern demoscene hub.
|
| who remembers Ojuice.net?
| pjmlp wrote:
| I do, and the original Nectarine radio, Hugi demo mag,
| Assembly early days, Breakout,....
|
| Feeling oldie. :)
| nlawalker wrote:
| Clicked link, heard Firestarter, A+ for meeting expectations.
| blipvert wrote:
| Only just clocked yesterday that Keith FLINT would be a
| literal fire starter.
|
| Twenty eight years!
|
| I'm ashamed of myself.
| 4gotunameagain wrote:
| I'll save you the wait, tinder + match = fire !
| miek wrote:
| Fun fact: A high-quality prototype of the original PS1 Wipeout
| is shown in the movie Hackers (arcade scene). It was done on a
| high-end SGI server and allowed the dev team to try out tracks
| and gameplay before porting to the Playstation. There are
| features and graphics in the movie that do not exist in the
| actual game.
| comprev wrote:
| GTA + Moving Shadow record label... legendary for showcasing d&b
| to a wider audience.
|
| https://gta.fandom.com/wiki/Moving_Shadow
|
| For those interested I can highly recommend the "Moving Shadow
| Sampler Series" mix anthology [0]
|
| [0] https://www.discogs.com/label/396717-Movingshadow-Sampler-
| Se...
| magicalhippo wrote:
| I recall the Wipeout 2097 soundtrack[1] blew me away as a kid.
|
| I had heard some techno and eurodance was popular at the time,
| but the sounds coming out of the speaker at the store where the
| demo ran was on another level.
|
| Bought the CD and listen to it every now and then, and Orbital's
| Petrol track is still up there on my top 100 list.
|
| There was something raw, and edge, that seems lost in so much
| electronic music these days.
|
| [1]: https://www.discogs.com/release/6385-Various-
| Wipeout-2097-Th...
| tetris11 wrote:
| https://archive.org/details/wipeout2097_soundtrack
| gatane wrote:
| WE HAVE EXPLOSIVEEE
| imp0cat wrote:
| I think this was also on the Mortal Kombat movie OST
| (another hidden gem from the 90's; not the movie, the
| soundtrack).
| vinceguidry wrote:
| Did you ever listen to the More Kombat follow on? Most of
| the tracks were forgettable, but there was that one track
| Space Man by Babylon Zoo that still runs through my head
| every now and again.
| timc3 wrote:
| The edginess and rawness might be the limitations of the
| equipment used and the people using it, but for me the edge was
| that the music it wasn't pigeonholed into different genres at
| the time. It was all working together like a Weatherall set.
| miek wrote:
| CoLD SToRAGE released a new edition of the Wipeout soundtrack;
| vinyl still available, plenty of remixes onboard.
|
| https://coldstorage.bandcamp.com/album/wipeout-the-zero-grav...
| OliveMate wrote:
| I can't accept Drum and Bass, we need Jungle I'm afraid.
|
| Genuinely glad I got to experience so much of it growing up with
| a PS1 and the genre's stuck with me. If you want to focus on
| listening or have some soothing background noise, it's perfect,
| versatile.
|
| While not all jungle, shouout to PS1 racing games for their
| killer soundtracks. The glorified mixtape of Gran Turismo 2 (all
| versions!), Colin Mcrae Rally's acid beats, everything in Ridge
| Racer. Really feels like vidya soundtracks peaked there.
| agentdrek wrote:
| "I can't accept Drum and Bass" is the greatest YouTube remix
| rabbit hole to go down
| ErigmolCt wrote:
| The PS1 era really was the golden age for soundtracks
| fennecfoxy wrote:
| Going from carts to CDs, so much more storage. I've got a
| great collection of retro (at least from my childhood) games
| going and PS1 is my favourite, got a big stack
| cnity wrote:
| My introduction to The Prodigy was Firestarter on one of the
| Wipeout games. That soundtrack was brilliant.
| vehemenz wrote:
| If you like this kind of music--and even the late 90s/early 00s
| aesthetic--check out Zorrovian's YouTube channel for some nice
| playlists.
|
| https://www.youtube.com/@zorrovian
| Buttons840 wrote:
| I've recently been into game development, and I needed music
| which lead me to discovering synthesizers--I was hooked the first
| time I saw so many buttons, knobs, and flashing lights--and now
| I've gone off on a huge tangent and am studying music theory
| instead of making my game. Oh well, it's all for fun.
|
| Does HN have any advice on how to get started with synthesizers,
| with an eye towards creating a game soundtrack?
| dakna wrote:
| I don't have any advice on how to get started, but please take
| a look at one of the legends of the 8/16-bit era:
|
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Huelsbeck
|
| Maybe I'm nostalgic, but these tunes were amazing.
| https://youtu.be/7dJrsmt9BOY
|
| Oh, and if you haven't invested 30 minutes of your remaining
| lifetime listening to Orbital - The Box (Full Version) you are
| missing a masterpiece.
|
| Here is Orbital's Paul Hartnoll playing with his gear:
|
| https://youtu.be/VjlWypTclec
| squeaky-clean wrote:
| Ableton has a good free introduction using web audio stuff so
| no download needed.
|
| https://learningsynths.ableton.com/
|
| For a more advanced set of lessons there is Syntorial, which
| has a demo including the first 20 or so lessons and the full
| set of 200 lessons for $120. Syntorial requires a download, but
| it's a full synthesizer with lessons built into it, so you can
| use it in your own music.
|
| Aside from that I'd say youtube is the best source. While
| you're still a beginner I'd recommend avoiding any videos where
| they don't show the finished result because it's much harder to
| tell if the video is BS or not.
|
| For free synthesizers, I'd recommend "TAL U-NO-60" as a good
| beginner one, it's modeled after the Roland Juno 60. And
| "Vital" for a more complex / less beginner friendly one. Both
| of those have paid versions with additional features but those
| additional features are not necessary at all. You'll also need
| a DAW software capable of loading VST plugins to use them.
| timc3 wrote:
| You started in the right place with music theory. As for
| learning synths, you can do it in two ways - just start using
| them, fiddling and playing (whether its a software synth or
| hardware synth) or you learning actually the fundamentals by
| books, video and articles like these:
| https://www.soundonsound.com/series/synth-secrets-sound-soun...
|
| I started the first way in the early 80s and did the second and
| have a life long love of synths ( I don't even know how many I
| have now but probably around 30-40 hardware synths, samplers
| and drum machines).
| miek wrote:
| Hardware synth route: Korg Minilogue XD is a great box that
| you'll likely keep forever. For a less traditional but fun
| experience, Arturia Microfreak or for more $, the Minifreak
| (which comes with a Minifreak VST!). To save money, see what's
| available second-hand locally and Google each to see if it's
| beginner friendly.
|
| Software route: Get a midi controller with plenty of knobs and
| buttons that is supported for easy use by whatever DAW you want
| (digital audio workstation). By easy use, I mean that there is
| a config available within the DAW that will map the
| controller's buttons/knobs etc.to functions within the DAW.
| Examples: Push 3 or Launchkey keyboards for Abelton, Komplete
| Kontrol, etc.
|
| If you want a lighter synth that is paired with a sequencer,
| drum machine, and effects all-in-one hardware box, for fun on
| the go or on your couch, you want a groovebox. I like the
| Novation Circuit Tracks, which has a serious synth under the
| hood, accessible by PC or a midi controller (Novation Launch
| Control XL is plug-n-play friendly if you download an addon
| from their website).
| Buttons840 wrote:
| > Novation Launch Control XL is plug-n-play friendly if you
| download an addon from their website
|
| What does this mean? How is software plug-n-play?
| depingus wrote:
| > I was hooked the first time I saw so many buttons, knobs, and
| flashing lights
|
| I fell down the synthesizer rabbit hole during covid. And the
| urge to acquire more hardware is real. Resist! Try not to chase
| synth youtube gear cycles. Remember, synthesizers make sounds,
| not music. Not that there's anything wrong with enjoying sound
| design, it is fun. But if your goal is to make music, it can be
| a trap.
|
| > Does HN have any advice on how to get started with
| synthesizers.
|
| For me, synthesizers didn't click until I got my first super
| basic knob-per-function synth. There was just so many things I
| didn't know, that a VST like Vital had way too many options.
| Once I figured out most synths are just oscillators -> mixer ->
| filter -> amp, plus envelopes and LFO's for modulation... I
| could use pretty much any synth.
|
| Here is Wendy Carlos explaining the above concepts in under 4
| minutes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SBDH5uhs4Q
|
| Once you understand those basics, maybe look at videos that
| show you how to recreate famous sounds. Probably start with
| simple classic sounds so you get a feel for how the synthesizer
| controls shape that sound.
|
| Here is Anthony Marinelli showing you the bass sound from
| Madonna's Holiday in under 8m. He does a good job explaining
| why you use a certain setting.
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVedA7H4qpQ
|
| My last piece of advice: the online synth community can be a
| bit toxic <cough>reddit</cough>. Ignore them and just do what
| feels fun. It's a hobby after all!
| racl101 wrote:
| I think it's a rite of passage for every programmer to play
| with a DAW, contemplate a career in music, maybe even buy an
| expensive synth, make a bunch of boring beats, find out that
| it's just not the technical aspect but that you actually need
| to be musically creative. Then get discouraged when you meet
| a creative and talented musician who does more with less
| money and equipment. Like pretty much any guy that has played
| keyboards at a church service or a wedding using a freaking
| Casio.
|
| I did this and know other devs who did this in the early
| 2000s lol.
| dfxm12 wrote:
| I remember Gran Turismo well. The Quest Mode theme from Tobal no.
| 1 goes unmentioned. It's just a short break looped over and over
| again. After playing this game, you realize if you like jungle or
| not.
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1mC6K5kqZU
| selimthegrim wrote:
| I guess now I realize where all the music in the late 90s Need
| for Speeds came from
| empath75 wrote:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ9QHGaxdig
|
| Tempest 2000 was probably more acid house influenced, but there
| was also a lot of early breakbeat hardcore/jungle tunes in there
| too.
| miek wrote:
| The most demoscene inspired game ever? Is there another? It's
| beautiful.
| ethbr1 wrote:
| Was hoping this was that kind of jungle. :D
|
| Aka 'Some dnb tracks' funk goes to 10... ours goes to 11' jungle
| xipix wrote:
| > Fun fact: Unlicensed stations began streaming jungle music from
| onboard ships off the coast of Britain, hence the expression
| "pirate radios."
|
| Didn't pirate radio broadcast from boats predate Jungle by about
| 20 years?
| pacaro wrote:
| From the mid 60s
| richrichardsson wrote:
| It's weird things like using "streaming" instead of
| "broadcasting", let alone the fact by the time Jungle was
| invented pirate radio was no longer happening on the seas but
| had moved to having the "studio" in one high rise block of
| flats with a point to point link to the actual broadcast site
| on another, coupled with the general structure and other
| fantasies makes me question how much of this was LLM generated.
| I couldn't continue reading after a while.
| gustavopezzi wrote:
| Hi there. Author here. Thanks for the heads up. I would never
| even consider using LLMs for this, this is just a subject
| that was always interesting to me so I thought it would be a
| good idea to write some of it down. Some of these mentions
| look like shortcomings of English not being my first
| language; I'll try to review it and change the words or terms
| that you suggested.
| brirec wrote:
| The article mentions Bomberman on the Nintendo 64, but they made
| a mistake -- there were actually 4 different Bomberman games on
| the Nintendo 64, and the one featuring Jungle music is Bomberman
| Hero, not the one whose box art they used (Bomberman 64).
| AirMax98 wrote:
| A bit slept on, but Extreme G 2 soundtrack has a '96-97 Source
| Direct vibe to it.
| samirsd wrote:
| self-plug: i built a streaming platform devoted to 90s jungle
| deep cuts called .mixtape -- good curated selection on there
| https://apps.apple.com/us/app/mixtape/id1391354414
| nntwozz wrote:
| Jungle instantly reminds me of Squarepusher - Feed Me Weird
| Things from 1996
|
| Tundra is a masterpiece:
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G01DKEig14
| psd1 wrote:
| I do love that track, but although it takes the form of jungle
| it is utterly unlike jungle. Squarepusher is refined. Jungle is
| amateur. It needs to have the feel of "this is what we cafe
| because it's what we could make" whereas Squarepusher is grade
| 8 on at least two instruments. Love Squarepusher but he's not
| jungle.
| 0x011011 wrote:
| aaaah, seeing someone recommend a squarepusher album on hn
| makes my brain mush.
| timc3 wrote:
| I can recommend more if you like and of course the Chris
| Cunningham video https://youtu.be/MWCSw_cNxKc
|
| Not sure I would class it as jungle though.
| metrognome wrote:
| I'm going to leave this here for anyone who wants some good
| focus-time music: https://youtu.be/Do5_wU9X1pc
| NKosmatos wrote:
| I had the luck/privilege of being in the UK back in the 90s,
| around the time Jungle and Drum and Bass were really high (pun
| intended). Those were the good old times with PlayStation
| arriving, Wipeout having a superb soundtrack, and many excellent
| artists providing tunes for games. In case there are people
| interested in DnB have a look at Andy C ;-)
| louthy wrote:
| There was a club in London that I used to go to in the mid-90s
| called Complex. It had three floors, one was drum&bass, one
| techno, and the top floor was PlayStations.
|
| The PS1 was a real zeitgeist moment where gaming came of age.
| helboi4 wrote:
| That sounds so fucking cool. I would love to experience a
| club like that. Just take a little playstation break from the
| dancefloor lol
| miek wrote:
| Andy C will be in LA on nov 28!
| stanleykm wrote:
| jungle & drum and bass were magical in the 90s. The breakbeats
| left so much room for crazy experimentation with synthesizers
| that you didnt really get out of other genres with the more
| familiar booming 4 on the floor kick drums. This was also a time
| when people were moving from hardware to software for music
| production so the evolution of the music, if you were to look at
| it from the early 90s to early 2000s was incredible.
| comprambler wrote:
| Morphadron from the EA Need for Speed series must be jungle as
| well.
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POxdm5dW7wE
| HKH2 wrote:
| The music you linked is too slow for Jungle.
| analog31 wrote:
| Amusingly, I clicked on the link, wondering how video games were
| using 1920s jazz.
| TheRealPomax wrote:
| And the impact of Jungle in the last few months of 2024 in K-pop
|
| (They discovered two step garage earlier in the year, now they've
| moved on to jungle. I look forward to them discovering UK dubstep
| from before Skrillex)
| gaoryrt wrote:
| You mean Right Now by newjeans?
| tosmatos wrote:
| Some examples please ! I listen to 0 k-pop but am very curious
| now. My cousin used to send me stuff that sounded really good.
| TheRealPomax wrote:
| Search youtube for "new kpop 2024 november week 1" and work
| your way back. Bebe Yana is probably the most "what if I just
| did jungle?" of the lot, but it's made its way into pretty
| much all the mainstream groups (even if, because of how the
| kpop formula works, it's only a chorus section after a drop)
| WD-42 wrote:
| Still some of the best music to code by. I know it's more
| millennium, but I still listen to the unreal tournament 1999
| soundtrack.
| miek wrote:
| facing worlds!!
| the__alchemist wrote:
| Tangent: The Serious Sam soundtrack owns! Really, anything by
| Damjan Mravunac.
| miek wrote:
| Jungle ramblings:
|
| -Can't forget Facing Worlds in Unreal Tournament 1999!
| https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i_0G6WPuss4
|
| -Andy C will be in Los Angeles Nov. 28 (typically plays LA a few
| times per year)
|
| -Worth checking out: Modern DJs who mix DnB/jungle with
| "footwork" (musical genre), e.g. Sharelle
| https://m.soundcloud.com/iamsherelle
|
| -BBC Radio 1, Radio 6, and Rinse FM all have drum n bass shows
| and are available for free online and through Alexa etc.
|
| -h2k2 had at least one wicked drum n bass set, I wonder if any of
| you were there :)
| docmars wrote:
| I was surprised Unreal Tournament didn't get a mention in the
| article -- it's famous for its music! I fondly remember several
| of its tracks falling within this genre.
| daneyh wrote:
| Unreal tournament - Mechanism eight is such a great track
| TacticalCoder wrote:
| In "Wipeout" on the original Playstation there's the famous
| "Firestarter" song by Prodigy. It's the, slowed down, amen break
| too I think:
|
| https://youtu.be/V_b5-RWOfMo
|
| EDIT: yup it's in TFA, facepalming myself.
| midnightclubbed wrote:
| Killer track but technically Firestarter isn't Drum and Bass
| (or Jungle). Prodigy slowed everything down after Experience
| (first album).
| TomK32 wrote:
| A real turning point for The Prodigy turning it from a
| producer-driven dance act into a proper band with a lead
| singer. Flint created a job in the act for himself not once but
| twice.
| miek wrote:
| His funeral was a proper sendoff .... to outer space, to find
| another race https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfAEECqG9G8
| miek wrote:
| One of the first things I asked ChatGPT when I got access: could
| you write a song in the style of a uk drum-n-bass MC about why a
| fictional brand of study bible, "The Rilla Bibla," is better than
| others?
|
| Verse 1: Listen up, listen up, I got a story to tell About a
| brand new study bible that's straight outta hell It's called "The
| Rilla Bibla," and it's the real deal Got all the wisdom, all the
| knowledge, it's the bomb, it's for real
|
| Chorus: The Rilla Bibla, it's the one and only Got all the beats
| and rhythm, it's the holy holy It's got the flow, it's got the
| style It's gonna elevate your understanding, mile by mile
|
| etc. etc. Golden.
| yellowapple wrote:
| I'm a bit surprised, given the mention of other Dreamcast games,
| that there's no mention of Airforce Delta's soundtrack:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR7C-9laJbs&list=PLbPd0JMiEH...
|
| AFD's soundtrack is interesting because it tends to be
| superficially EDM-ish but still pulls in that jungle influence.
| Track 2 on that playlist is a perfect example: you have a very
| standard drum beat front and center, but you _also_ have a
| heavily-chopped drum beat as texture from the very first moment.
| The resulting syncopated effect with the piano and synth cords is
| a nice touch (especially in that bit around the 2 minute mark,
| which itself is a nice introduction to a broader motif throughout
| the rest of the soundtrack, particularly the finale Track 24 -
| which itself is another great example of that "EDM main beat
| with jungle-like chopping as texture" style).
|
| Occasionally that style flips around, though. Track 15 is a good
| example, where it's the chopped beat (albeit not severely) that
| takes front and center, yet again producing neat syncopated
| effects with the synth chords now in the more rigid role. Similar
| deal with Tracks 8, 10, and 13, though most of these are less
| afraid to move the chords into the off-beats.
|
| And then there's my second-favorite track, Track 11, which
| deemphasizes the chopped drums a bit but instead chops up the
| synth arpeggios for the same effect of adding that nice bit of
| texture to the pulsing beat and soaring synths.
|
| My favorite track, Track 7, alternates between a very pure-jungle
| sound across the board (with the drums _and_ chords being heavily
| chopped and syncopated, often in support of nice long notes) and
| brief moments of that EDM-like pulse, to great effect.
|
| And of course there's plenty of great stuff outside of that
| EDM/jungle hybrid, like Track 23's Harold-Faltermeyer-esque "Top
| Gun Anthem" knockoff, or the smooth-jazz-ish segues like Track
| 22.
|
| All in all, a fantastic body of work that defined my childhood.
|
| ----
|
| Another game conspicuously missing from the discussion is Buck
| Bumble and its jungle-to-the-max soundtrack:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lax-KRVVPfo&list=PLeXmIIlkcO...
|
| bump to the boom to the bump to the bass, bump to the boom to the
| bumble
| rndmio wrote:
| Just listened to the Buck Bumble soundtrack and that is very
| much garage not jungle.
| ttul wrote:
| I worked as an intern in the sound department at a video game
| company in 1997/1998. We had a full recording studio in house
| around the corner from my desk. One day, a drummer came in to lay
| down some drum'n'bass tracks for a game. So yeah, indeed the
| Jungle sound was present in video games back then. What a time.
| trq01758 wrote:
| Ahh, I'm so enjoying Sebastian Ahrenberg work from Seba Producer
| 06. This is compilation released in 2003 of tracks from
| 1996-1999.
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhcqYxogdsU
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7RRgGSMmjk
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy69Heb33pg
| ErigmolCt wrote:
| The blend of music and gaming culture in the 90s is something
| special
| jbaiter wrote:
| This series of mixes by Lee Gamble is a great romp through jungle
| history, highly recommended:
| https://soundcloud.com/leegamble/sets/jungle-as-particle-acc...
| uk_jungle wrote:
| For anyone who likes jungle and is not familiar with the UK cult
| classic film Human Traffic, you must at least see "the jungle
| scene"
| https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ChSg0-r_jqA&pp=ygUUSHVtYW4gdHJ...
|
| If you were part of the rave scene, you should watch the whole
| film, it's full of comedy and nostalgia of those hedonistic
| times. One of my all time favourite films.
| alt227 wrote:
| Any new jungle in guy?
| bromuk wrote:
| Dissapointed that buck bumble wasn't mentioned.
| scoopr wrote:
| I think the referenced Tim Wright interview is this[0] one
|
| [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CGhBLHfP_M
| itsoggy wrote:
| Didn't think 90's Jungle / DnB would be on HN... Yes!
|
| Add these to the list...
|
| Saint Etienne - The Sea (PFM Mix):
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1JrnoEbQDE
|
| Funky Technicians - Airtight (Original) (1996):
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwC43QSY94A
| anilakar wrote:
| I only had to read the title and immediately knew what the
| article was about: that breakbeat soundtrack you could hear in
| countless original Playstation games.
| jl6 wrote:
| An article about jungle music in 90s video games that doesn't
| mention Unreal Tournament?!
| AntoniusBlock wrote:
| Some excellent contemporary Jungle producers, if anyone wants
| recommendations: Dead Man's Chest, Tim Reaper, Equinox and Coco
| Bryce. These lads are producing bangers better, or on par, with
| the producers of the late 80s and 90s.
| bookaway wrote:
| I'm looking for the more Ragga heavy melodic dirty sounding
| jungle a la Krinjah's Return or Hold Yuh remix. Any new people
| on that sound?
| 1oooqooq wrote:
| most of this article is nostalgia. the reason game development
| use sampled music was because it was always about cutting cost,
| specially at Sony when they introduced CD audio to games.
| JodieBenitez wrote:
| Cutting cost: driving creativity since forever :)
| schnitzelstoat wrote:
| I'm not sure if it is Jungle music, but the electronic (drum and
| bass?) music in games like Forsaken 64 and Unreal Tournament
| (1999) was amazing.
|
| I still listen to the UT99 soundtrack when I need to concentrate
| on something.
| miek wrote:
| This is THE track from UT99
|
| https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i_0G6WPuss4
| seventhtiger wrote:
| Ape Escape was mentioned. That game was released to promote the
| dual analog controller on Playstation 1. Back then the convention
| of camera control on right stick wasn't even established, so
| camera rotation was on the shoulder buttnos, while the right
| stick was used to control weapons!
|
| The game's soundtrack is iconic. Dark Ruins is a favorite:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jbNHgmU1TM
| maep wrote:
| Shoutout to h0ffman, in my opinion the best contemporary junglist
| on olschool hardware. His 8-Bit Jungle music disk:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--J66FY7qro
| orthoxerox wrote:
| As someone who was so non-conformist in the 90s that he refused
| to listen to the music for non-conformists, I am constantly
| surprised that jungle doesn't sound the way it's named. Every
| time I expect EDM with Afro-Caribbean percussion, like bongos and
| steelpans and marimbas, realize it's nothing like that and
| promptly forget what jungle sounds like until the next
| revelation.
| miek wrote:
| While not a perfect match, Ragga Jungle is a subgenre that hits
| the afro carrib mark
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yiLR4IAByc
| tigerBL00D wrote:
| Thank you for putting this together. For a certain generation
| this resonates strongly. For me in the mid to late 90's getting
| into coding and hacking assembly while listening to and coding
| underground music in trackers were huge influences that have had
| their impact on the trajectory of my life and my social circle.
|
| P.S. Let's hang out )
| secdeal wrote:
| In Street Fighter 3rd Strike (1999) Akuma's stage music titled
| Killing Moon is one my favorites, I still listen to it
| sourcepluck wrote:
| I have been going through a heavy jungle phase recently thanks to
| these mixes I found when investigating what's possible on the
| Commodore A600 (I recently came into possession of one):
| https://inv.nadeko.net/playlist?list=PLF8fxbriplbmwB7zypOxa_oV4fk
| zTQOEh
|
| It's a channel called "off1k", and a playlist called "Jungle /
| Drum & Bass", and all the tunes come from people making music on
| Amigas in the early 90s on software called "protracker".
|
| A600s, A1200s, maybe others, maybe other versions or variants of
| protracker, I'm not sure. Anyway, if someone can get through 30s
| of mix 1 without losing their sh*t, I want to hear about it, I'll
| keel over.
|
| And, to top it all off, about a week in to these mixes on loop, I
| ask myself: what is that software? Is that still going? And I
| discover some fellow called "Olav Sorensen" recently wrote an
| identical-looking protracker clone:
| https://16-bits.org/pt2.php EDIT: GH link
| https://github.com/8bitbubsy/pt2-clone
|
| Which I can confirm runs very smoothly on Arch (btw). It says
| it's available for Mac and Windows on the site. In the words of
| the sample from the first track on mix 1: "annihilating the
| rhythm". Get jungling people!
| miek wrote:
| Can't help but drop these--
|
| For easy listening jungle/Drum N Bass, excellent for work, search
| for "atmospheric drum n bass" or "liquid drum n bass". Artists:
| Photek, LTJ Bukem, DB (some), etc. Best atmospheric mix w vocals
| ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAXnFZ3anlE
|
| For a tour of jungle over time:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgK8h9xRFls
|
| For a famous jungle dj/vocalist pairing: AK1200 moonshine over
| america https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqRNrhQvYEc
|
| Also, you may recognize Goldie, a pioneer of the genre, who
| turned actor, turned model, and more recently launched a record
| label
| omar12 wrote:
| Growing up, the music from PS1 games and getting my first
| computer with internet access sparked my interest in Drum and
| Bass, Jungle, and eventually other electronic music. In high
| school, I would spend hours every night searching for music and
| connecting with people who shared similar interests, discovering
| what they enjoyed. I also remembered going to Borders and spend
| hours browsing their library. It was a great time. I still have
| my drum and bass CDs from back then. Roni Size - New Forms was a
| game changer for me.
| safar_so_far wrote:
| Wow! I was literally listening to jungle mix when I came across
| this article. Amazing. Let's keep the genre alive!
| racl101 wrote:
| Still remember the Killer Instinct OST CD had some Jungle in it.
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