[HN Gopher] Russian family lived alone in the Siberian wildernes...
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Russian family lived alone in the Siberian wilderness for 40 years
(2013)
Author : baxtr
Score : 66 points
Date : 2024-11-12 20:13 UTC (2 hours ago)
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| skzv wrote:
| The Vice documentary mentioned in the article is really great
| [0].
|
| Best of luck to Agafia.
|
| [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt2AYafET68
| hnthrowaway0328 wrote:
| I wish I could do that in Canada. Not totally isolated but a few
| kms from a main road with a chalet and something. Solar for
| power, Starlink for network and I can die in that chalet.
|
| But building and maintaining are going to be hell because I know
| exactly zero about those.
| cgh wrote:
| Literally the only things stopping you from doing this are
| money (to buy a rural lot somewhere, tools, a truck and so
| forth) and time. You can learn most of your skills with YouTube
| and practise, not kidding. Thanks to YouTube, we renovated a
| borderline crappy house, built outbuildings, landscaped, etc.
| with essentially no construction experience. I am still kind of
| amazed by this.
| hindsightbias wrote:
| Watch this series, you'll be able to do anything.
|
| https://youtu.be/fCcLhdLaxnM?si=fy4D20GyFenA4cqo
|
| But it's a 100X easier to just buy the materials.
| alexey-salmin wrote:
| > When in recalling the "first world war" with Karp Osipovich the
| geologists engaged him in conversation about the last one, he
| shook his head: "What is this, a second time, and always the
| Germans. A curse on Peter. He flirted with them. That is so."
|
| It's almost the "which one, first or second?" joke but IRL
| cgh wrote:
| "Always the Germans". My Dutch friends will laugh pretty hard
| at this. It fits in with yelling "Hey, where's my bike?" at
| German tourists (the Nazis confiscated Dutch bicycles in WW2 to
| limit movement) and referring to people from the eastern part
| of the country as "spare Germans".
| IncreasePosts wrote:
| At a certain point, we gotta say "Hey, Germany, you don't get
| to be a country no more, on account of you keep attacking THE
| WORLD"
| christophilus wrote:
| For those not in the know, it's a reference to Norm
| MacDonald:
|
| https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uXdtafGdIVM&pp=ygUWbm9ybSBtYW
| N...
| usrnm wrote:
| Yeah, but Peter actually flirted with the Dutch, not Germans.
| Nobody just sees any difference ;)
| kgeist wrote:
| Back in Peter the Great's times the Dutch and Germans were
| called with the same word in Russian. I think it was the
| case in English, too. IIRC that's why they call it
| Pennsylvania Dutch, even though it's German.
| stvltvs wrote:
| It's Deutschland after all.
| idunnoman1222 wrote:
| All the kids died of pneumonia caught from the visiting
| geologist. What a cute story.
| kzrdude wrote:
| Well. I wonder if the new gift of salt in their diet
| contributed to kidney failure.
| scns wrote:
| The most important thing the Beduins take to the desert is?
|
| Salt
| nighthawk454 wrote:
| > In the fall of 1981, three of the four children followed
| their mother to the grave. According to Peskov, their deaths
| were not, as some have speculated, the result of exposure to
| diseases to which they had no immunity. Both Savin and Natalia
| suffered from kidney failure, most likely a result of their
| harsh diet. But Dmitry died of pneumonia, which might have
| begun as an infection he acquired from his new friends.
| madarco wrote:
| I'm not sure... several parts of this story seem unbelievable to
| be honest.
| chikenf00t wrote:
| What parts seem unbelievable?
| tsimionescu wrote:
| I remember watching a documentary about them, without much
| context. The old lady who is still living alone out there was
| talking a lot about how the Patriarch (an Orthodox equivalent of
| the Pope, more or less) corrupted their old faith, and she was
| cursing his name a lot. By the way she was speaking, I thought
| she was talking about some events that must have happened during
| her father's life, maybe his childhood - I assumed she was upset
| about some communist era Patriarch who probably was too friendly
| with the regime or something.
|
| Looking it up later, I realized she was an Old Believer, and the
| Patriarch she was cursing was in fact Nikon, who corrupted their
| faith in 1652... I found it deeply fascinating how powerful and
| alive this almost 400 year old grudge was to this woman.
| kgeist wrote:
| It's basically Old Believers' entire identity - opposition to
| the official church.
| JacobThreeThree wrote:
| Give them some smartphones with social media and it'll be
| forgotten in a generation.
| Dr_Birdbrain wrote:
| Or, it will be amplified, and will become the basis of a
| religious-nationalist movement.
| blooalien wrote:
| > "Or, it will be amplified, and will become the basis of a
| religious-nationalist movement."
|
| ^^^ If history is any indicator, this is the _much_ more
| likely outcome. ^^^
| dingdingdang wrote:
| This story sure has done the rounds. I like it both in the
| particular and thematically speaking so perhaps there's a good
| non-tragic variation* on it out there to be found..?
| leshokunin wrote:
| Those poor people missed TikTok, Tiger King, and all the other
| amazing things we have to offer.
|
| Glad they lived what they wanted
| ivan_gammel wrote:
| When I was 6 years old I was confused just like you about the
| age of things.
|
| I mean, they were discovered before the Digital Age and missed
| only The Beatles and TV.
| fuzztester wrote:
| Reading the post title, the film Dersu Uzala by Akira Kurosawa
| comes to mind.
|
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dersu_Uzala_(1975_film)
|
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akira_Kurosawa
| sampo wrote:
| The book is even better.
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dersu_Uzala
| renewiltord wrote:
| Well, that brought up a memory from childhood. My parents
| borrowed this on a tape and my brother and I would go about
| calling the Sun "a very great man" and the Moon "another great
| man" because that's what the character says about them.
| kunley wrote:
| Very Russian story: must-have big drama, old grudges, extreme
| distances and overwhelming sadness.
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