[HN Gopher] Tinfoil.com - Dedicated to the preservation of early...
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Tinfoil.com - Dedicated to the preservation of early recorded
sounds
Author : cenazoic
Score : 66 points
Date : 2024-11-11 22:41 UTC (1 days ago)
(HTM) web link (tinfoil.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (tinfoil.com)
| notpushkin wrote:
| Some recordings on the website are RealMedia. I thought most
| players supported that but apparently quite a few don't! So if
| nothing else works for you, try ffplay.
|
| (Curiously enough, Celluloid seems to play this and Haruna
| doesn't, although both are wrappers for mpv.)
| RunningDroid wrote:
| > (Curiously enough, Celluloid seems to play this and Haruna
| doesn't, although both are wrappers for mpv.)
|
| I'm not familiar with how they wrap MPV, but it could be that
| one uses MPV built against a library that provides support and
| the other uses an MPV that's not built against that library
| romanhn wrote:
| I love the fact that an early digital format for sound
| recordings is used here for early sound recordings. Fun fact -
| RealNetworks is still around.
| tombert wrote:
| I knew that, but it always baffles me when I hear it again.
| Who uses any Real products anymore?
|
| Back in 2007 the only reason I ever used Real stuff was
| pirated episodes of South Park, and even then I think I was
| using Real Alternative. Even in 2007 the company seemed like
| it was dying, and I have no idea 17 years later it's still
| somehow alive.
| nativeit wrote:
| It appears they're mostly buying other companies and their
| tech, with no apparent whales on either side of the ledger,
| so they don't appear to be growing or failing at any great
| pace.
| giancarlostoro wrote:
| I remember installing their software reluctantly
| RandallBrown wrote:
| I drive by their headquarters in Seattle pretty regularly
| and always wonder the same thing.
| gwbas1c wrote:
| Wait, people were still using Real back in 2007? At that
| point I had cycled through DivX, XviD, and then just
| started holding onto the .VOB file from the DVD.
| tombert wrote:
| As I said, the only thing I used it for was pirated
| episodes of South Park. For whatever reason, a lot of the
| South Park piracy websites were using .rm files.
|
| For literally everything else, I think I used XviD until
| MakeMKV came along.
| walterbell wrote:
| Realplayer supported SMIL!
|
| Realtime dynamic composition of video streams from multiple
| servers with a few lines of XMl.
|
| 20 years later, there's no alternative.
| autoexec wrote:
| > Some recordings on the website are RealMedia. I thought most
| players supported that but apparently quite a few don't!
|
| VLC works, as usual.
| ejstronge wrote:
| From a different era, but still early in recorded history, you
| may enjoy the Excavated Shellac collection
| (https://excavatedshellac.com/) by Jonathan Ward.
|
| Please share other collections if you know of any!
| beAbU wrote:
| Very cool.
|
| We're coming up to 150 years of being able to record and preserve
| the sounds of the world around us.
|
| The era of ubiquitous digital recording is probably only really
| 30-40 years old, so there is a real incentive to preserve these
| older analogue artefacts, because this "prehistory" is larger
| than our immediately accessible history.
|
| I wonder how the desire to archive and preserve things like this
| will persevere in the coming centuries. In 1000 years from now,
| there will only be a recording "prehistory" of ~10% of the total
| timeline. At some point historians will probably not even care
| about the digital revolution, because anything that happened
| prior to that becomes a vanishingly small part of our history.
| Kind of the same way that we lump 1000s of years of early human
| history into singular epochs, summarizing 100s of generations of
| lived experiences into a single paragraph. With the digital
| revolution, all that history will be stored in excruciating
| detail, preserved arguably forever.
|
| This probably applies to any stored information, not just
| recorded audio. This is both fascinating and terrifying to me at
| the same time!
| jazzyjackson wrote:
| Don't take for granted that just because its stored digitally
| means its going to live forever. Data has to be copied to
| survive, if no one cares to migrate data from one platform to
| another, and that company goes under, probably the harddrives
| will be wiped. My entire high school experience was documented
| on myspace.com but when ownership transferred to News Corp and
| they tried to pivot the site to some other business model they
| accidentally deleted like half the user data iirc. So all those
| photos are gone, small blessing.
| ssl-3 wrote:
| Indeed.
|
| "The internet never forgets" was a fun notion to quip about
| when the WWW was only a few years old, but that was a quarter
| of a century ago.
|
| The reality is that it forgets shit all the time.
| pryelluw wrote:
| I thought they sold reproductions of the wax records. They sell
| thumb drives instead.
|
| Wonder how much data can a wax record store. Anyone care to
| calculate it?
| pvg wrote:
| The bandwidth (in the spectrum sense) is less than a phone
| landline with more noise. So 'sub 1kbaud' (times total
| recording length) is probably a reasonable initial guesstimate.
| gopher2000 wrote:
| It's been a hot minute since I saw the "real" logo and RAM files.
| notresidenter wrote:
| For anyone interested, the earliest sound recorded is from 1860,
| and isn't from Edison, but from a Frenchman Edouard-Leon Scott de
| Martinville, on a machine he called the "Phonoautograph". The
| machine recorded "traces" which a team at Stanford managed to
| convert back into sounds in 2008:
| https://www.archeophone.com/artists/s/edouard-leon-scott-de-...
| system2 wrote:
| The site looks like built in 1800s too. :)
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