[HN Gopher] Burial chamber of an ancient Egyptian priestess is d...
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Burial chamber of an ancient Egyptian priestess is discovered after
4k years
Author : uptownfunk
Score : 84 points
Date : 2024-11-07 19:13 UTC (5 days ago)
(HTM) web link (www.dailymail.co.uk)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.dailymail.co.uk)
| gnabgib wrote:
| Source article (referenced as the source, and the photos/fb quote
| lifted from):
| https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14048371/bur...
|
| Source-source article: https://www.fu-
| berlin.de/en/sites/cairo/news/20241013_Lady-I...
|
| Original source (German): https://www.geschkult.fu-
| berlin.de/e/aegyptologie/aktuelles/...
| card_zero wrote:
| That second link needs dy.html on the end. In fact all the
| links have been truncated to their visible length.
|
| https://www.fu-berlin.de/en/sites/cairo/news/20241013_Lady-I...
| gnabgib wrote:
| Oh thanks! Copy-paste fail (from another post of this article
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42071429), too late for
| me to edit, but the working links:
|
| Source article (referenced as the source, and the photos/fb
| quote lifted from): https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/a
| rticle-14048371/bur...
|
| Source-source article: https://www.fu-
| berlin.de/en/sites/cairo/news/20241013_Lady-I...
|
| Original source (German): https://www.geschkult.fu-
| berlin.de/e/aegyptologie/aktuelles/...
| adonovan wrote:
| Thanks. The Post's site is collapsing under the weight of
| the worst kind of lurid advertising. It is hard to find the
| news--you even have to expand the section if you don't want
| to see only ads.
| dang wrote:
| Fixed in the parent comment now. Thanks!
| dang wrote:
| Ok, we've changed to the first link from
| https://nypost.com/2024/11/06/science/egyptian-priestess-
| mum..., since the latter points to this and it seems to have
| the most information. Thanks!
| slater wrote:
| Alas:
|
| "Idy's remains were robbed of jewelry and metal objects, though
| the other grave goods appeared to have no interest to the
| thieves"
| snthpy wrote:
| Any pictures of the 11m high chamber?
|
| I'm really intrigued by that because that height seems really
| excessive given the difficulty of carving that it of rock so they
| must have thought it was really important.
| defrost wrote:
| There are multiple chronologies and uses here; the necropolis
| complex also had use as an early quarry - following strata of
| "softer" rock to carve out blocks for use elsewhere.
|
| See: https://phys.org/news/2020-02-necropolis-asyut-important-
| ele...
|
| for a view from the distance and more general notes.
| snthpy wrote:
| Interesting. That makes sense. Thanks!
| danans wrote:
| In the context of sites like Gobleki Tepe and the sites of the
| Natufian culture, which reach back 15k years, Ancient Egypt (and
| their contemporaries in Mesopotamia) are very recent.
|
| It's crazy how our perspective on the age of "civilization" has
| shifted so much recently.
| PittleyDunkin wrote:
| I find it very interesting how _long_ it took us to assemble
| the constituent ingredients of sedentary cities into what we
| recognize today. Almost as if the sedentary lifestyle were
| inherently undesirable to people living at the time.
| burnte wrote:
| Agriculture took thousands of years of work in selectively
| breeding crop plants. For a long time it produced little food
| for a lot of effort, so until it became easier reliably grow
| good food plants, it was not widely practiced.
| Qem wrote:
| Also while there was a lot of megafauna around, probably
| there was little incentive to settle and care for crops. It
| was better to chase the beasts.
| bregma wrote:
| It required the invention of beer (which was predicated on a
| number of technologies, including large-scale agriculture,
| pottery, and zymurgy). Once they cracked open the first cold
| ones though, it got hard to get up off the stone-age couch
| and people began to specialize in such fields as philosophy
| and singing.
| xenospn wrote:
| Wasn't all beer warm until the invention of refrigeration?
| technothrasher wrote:
| There are writings from Mesopotamia around 4000 BC
| talking about cooling food and drink in ice houses.
| adolph wrote:
| _A yakhchal (Persian: ykhchl "ice pit"; yakh meaning
| "ice" and chal meaning "pit") is an ancient type of ice
| house, which also made ice. . . . Records indicate that
| these structures were built as far back as 400 BCE, and
| many that were built hundreds of years ago remain
| standing, where Persian engineers built yakhchals in the
| desert to store ice, usually made nearby_ [0]
|
| _Perhaps the earliest reference to icehouses comes from
| Shulgi, who held sway in the Sumerian city of Ur at the
| tail end of the third millennium bc. . . . Year 13, for
| Shulgi, was dubbed "Building of the royal icehouse /cold-
| house." Jackson suggested such buildings might have been
| "timber-lined holes in the ground" designed to keep ice
| brought down from the mountains "cool and secure."_ [1]
|
| 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakhch%C4%81l
|
| 1. https://www.laphamsquarterly.org/roundtable/do-you-
| want-buil...
| marssaxman wrote:
| A sedentary lifestyle is also inherently undesirable for some
| people living in _our_ time, but most of us have little
| choice in the matter!
| irrational wrote:
| It sounds like tomb robbers found it in a lot less than 4k years.
| Insanity wrote:
| Super interesting. I have been reading Cleopatra: A Life,
| recently, and it is amazing to think that the Egyptian
| civilization is measured in millennia. For reference, this tomb
| is about 2 millennia older than the rule of Cleopatra.
|
| Complete side note, but the other articles on that news website
| are full of clickbait and sensational news. So kind of surprised
| to also find this article on there.
| gaoshan wrote:
| As soon as I see "dailymail" I, correctly, reasonably and
| thoughtfully IMO, start doubting whatever is linked.
| vkazanov wrote:
| Dailymail is dailymail but this particular article is boring.
|
| Things like this happen every year, thanks to both the tomb
| building tradition and the climate of the region.
|
| Middle kingdom did thrive about 4k years ago, this is the
| height of the classic Egyptian culture. Numerous tombs were
| escavated already.
|
| Thr comment you replied to reasonably noted how the culture
| survived for 2.7k years. They kept track of every pharaoh
| they had, as well as dynasties, and key events.
|
| This is amazing. Not the boring tomb. Although I love tombs.
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