[HN Gopher] I2P Anonymous Network
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       I2P Anonymous Network
        
       Author : whereistimbo
       Score  : 33 points
       Date   : 2024-11-03 11:29 UTC (8 days ago)
        
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       | fsflover wrote:
       | The completely anonymous, built-in torrents in I2P are hugely
       | undervalued. I expected that every big torrent tracker would set
       | up a mirror in I2P in order to allow their users to stay
       | anonymous. I don't understand why they don't do it.
        
         | Charon77 wrote:
         | There's already the DHT that really removes the need of
         | trackers in the first place.
        
           | fsflover wrote:
           | It doesn't hide the IPs and doesn't help discovery.
        
           | anacrolix wrote:
           | Yeah it really isn't anonymous at all.
        
         | aspenmayer wrote:
         | I don't think public torrent trackers would have much incentive
         | to do so, as their legal justification is that they aren't
         | hosting or linking to files themselves. If they were to run
         | services like I2P they would probably have a harder time making
         | that claim.
         | 
         | Private trackers probably wouldn't want to do that because it
         | probably would mess with the largely IP-based seed ratio
         | requirements which most private trackers have.
        
           | fsflover wrote:
           | > If they were to run services like I2P they would probably
           | have a harder time making that claim.
           | 
           | What are you talking about? Torrent servers in I2P don't
           | store files either.
           | 
           | > largely IP-based seed ratio requirements
           | 
           | I thought it was largely account-based, not IP-based.
        
             | aspenmayer wrote:
             | > What are you talking about? They don't store files
             | either.
             | 
             | Running I2P would require more storage than the status quo
             | of not running it. They usually store torrents and or
             | magnet links, not the files themselves. I don't know how
             | much overhead running I2P would be over and above running a
             | tracker also?
             | 
             | > I thought it was largely account-based, not IP-based.
             | 
             | Yes, those are not mutually exclusive. You have an account
             | and the tracker binds the IP that downloads the torrent to
             | a cookie or to a unique tracker announce url.
        
               | fsflover wrote:
               | > Running I2P would require more storage than the status
               | quo of not running it
               | 
               | I don't think it's significant. You might confuse I2P
               | with Hyphanet (formerly Freenet), which is dedicated to
               | anonymous storage.
               | 
               | > I don't know how much overhead running I2P would be
               | over and above running a tracker also?
               | 
               | The overhead will depend on whether you want to keep your
               | tracker's IP hidden. If not, it should be minimal AFAIK.
        
       | oigursh wrote:
       | I believe there's a simple boot flag for tails OS that let's you
       | use this instead of Tor.
        
         | fsflover wrote:
         | It was removed from Tails in 2017:
         | https://tails.net/doc/anonymous_internet/tor/why/index.en.ht...
        
       | sunshine-o wrote:
       | While I really like the concept, I2P is one of those P2P network
       | strongly associated with the darkest corner of the Internet in my
       | mind and something I would rather stay away from (because I would
       | rather not get arrested randomly because I have used it).
       | 
       | Now I was just going through the I2P Wikipedia page and I
       | couldn't find anything about that. Are my fears irrational?
        
         | seanw444 wrote:
         | Unless you live in a third-world country, I don't think you
         | have to worry much, especially if you live a very
         | uncontroversial life.
        
           | ignoramous wrote:
           | > _Unless you live in a third-world country..._
           | 
           | Funny how some people fantasize all the autocratic, dystopian
           | shit must always be going down in the "third world". Too much
           | Hollywood.
        
         | fsflover wrote:
         | > strongly associated with the darkest corner of the Internet
         | in my mind
         | 
         | Just like Tor?
         | 
         | https://support.torproject.org/#abuse_what-about-criminals
        
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