[HN Gopher] As Firefox turns 20, Mozilla ponders how to restore ...
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       As Firefox turns 20, Mozilla ponders how to restore it to its
       former glory
        
       Author : Digit-Al
       Score  : 12 points
       Date   : 2024-11-10 20:48 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | mossTechnician wrote:
       | Dupe of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42096225
        
       | guerrilla wrote:
       | Become a non-profit. If GNOME can alienate all of its users yet
       | still be the de facto default desktop Mozilla can figure out how
       | to do whatever everyone else is doing abd just do it.
        
         | ranger_danger wrote:
         | Usecase for a non-profit? /s
        
         | jujube3 wrote:
         | The Mozilla Foundation is already a non-profit.
        
       | ranger_danger wrote:
       | Just ask the people what they want. Companies and governments do
       | NOT send out enough effective polls.
        
         | from-nibly wrote:
         | "If I asked people what they wanted they would have said a
         | faster horse" -some guy
        
       | blibble wrote:
       | > What I love about Firefox is that it really provides users with
       | an alternative choice of a browser that is just genuinely
       | designed for them
       | 
       | they can't seriously think this can they?
       | 
       | who was asking for telemetry, mr robot, pocket, VPN ads, "use our
       | email" (relay) ads, "check your accounts!!" (monitor) ads and
       | built-in AI slop generators
       | 
       | and soon, more built-in ads: https://www.mozilla.org/en-
       | US/advertising/
       | 
       | I don't think a single user wanted any of that
       | 
       | at least Chrome doesn't actually show you ads directly throughout
       | the browser's interface
        
       | goalieca wrote:
       | Firefox needs to deliver a privacy focused browser with fantastic
       | security and push open standards. This alone delivers more than
       | enough value to _everyone_ for every cause.
       | 
       | It seems though Mozilla fell into the "go woke go broke" trap and
       | lost focus on their core mission.
        
       | thomassmith65 wrote:
       | To kick-start some of this growth, Mozilla is looking at reaching
       | new, and younger, users. Chambers noted that Mozilla is running a
       | number of marketing campaigns to make people aware of Firefox,
       | especially those who are only now starting to make their first
       | browser choices.
       | 
       | Any focus on marketing smacks of 'customer reeducation' which
       | works poorly when everyone outside holds the contrary position.
       | 
       | In someone else's words...                 Question: OK, so Apple
       | turned it around. We've got Gil, we've got you, we've got G3,
       | we've got Rhapsody, we've got Newton 2000. Great. Now are we
       | going to see some real kick ass TV commercials to change the
       | mindset?            Steve: ...to me, an 8 page Wall Street
       | Journal ad is saying "I'm going to spend my wad to show you that
       | I'm back". And what Apple needs now is not spending a million
       | dollars to tell people it's back. It needs for the journalists to
       | be saying Apple is back on page 1. Because if on page 7-14 Apple
       | spends a million dollars saying we're back but on page 1, a
       | journalist writes an article saying they're in the tank, who are
       | you going to believe? As a matter of fact, that million bucks on
       | page 7-14 is going to reinforce the message on page 1.
        
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