[HN Gopher] Verizon, AT&T tell courts: FCC can't punish us for s...
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       Verizon, AT&T tell courts: FCC can't punish us for selling user
       location data
        
       Author : mikece
       Score  : 16 points
       Date   : 2024-11-08 20:11 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (arstechnica.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (arstechnica.com)
        
       | itopaloglu83 wrote:
       | > Verizon and AT&T both said the fines violate their Seventh
       | Amendment right to a jury trial, and that the location data
       | doesn't fall under the law cited by the FCC.
       | 
       | I wonder how a jury would feel about their private information
       | being sold without their consent.
        
         | jshier wrote:
         | Or corporations having the same constitutional rights they do.
        
           | wahern wrote:
           | FWIW, the 7th Amendment doesn't speak directly to individual
           | rights of the person: "In Suits at common law... the right of
           | trial by jury shall be preserved". It's a right of parties in
           | a court case, which even in the 18th century could be
           | corporations.
           | 
           | Many portions of the US Constitution speak to "person",
           | "persons", and "people", such as the 14th Amendment. And the
           | 14th Amendment is often used to preempt state powers, for
           | example making state governments subject to the 1st Amendment
           | Freedom of Speech provision. But the 7th Amendment has never
           | been incorporated against the states. An appeal to the 7th
           | Amendment in a federal court case doesn't really touch upon
           | the debate of corporate personhood, at least not the academic
           | debate. Though, there may be other aspects of the case that
           | do.
        
       | hnthrowaway0328 wrote:
       | "What about the Treasury's interpretation?"
       | 
       | "It didn't seem appropriate."
        
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