[HN Gopher] Pirating "The Pirate Bay" TV Series Is Ironically Di...
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Pirating "The Pirate Bay" TV Series Is Ironically Difficult
Author : HieronymusBosch
Score : 89 points
Date : 2024-11-08 17:37 UTC (5 hours ago)
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| lysace wrote:
| Streaming https://www.svtplay.se/the-pirate-bay works via e.g.
| Mullvad VPN (pick a Swedish location).
|
| It only has audio and subtitles in Swedish though, so...
| thisislife2 wrote:
| I think this article is jumping the gun ... Give it time ... I
| hadn't even heard of this show, and so obviously wasn't even
| looking for it ... And if it is in Swedish, I'll also have to
| wait for the complete English subtitles before I can watch it.
| (And personally, I've found that pirated TV shows / movies that
| are not English are, in general, difficult to find online).
| Dylan16807 wrote:
| They want to talk about the series so the article isn't really
| jumping the gun. The title is just their hook.
| deaddodo wrote:
| I literally found it in two seconds on one of the most popular
| non-legit streaming sites. Checked two others, and it's there
| as well.
|
| The article author has no idea what they're talking about.
| meowster wrote:
| I may be ignorant, but streaming is not the same as
| torrenting, and The Pirate Bay is known for the latter.
| colecut wrote:
| you can couple a torrent service with something like put.io
| and now it's a streaming service =p
| deaddodo wrote:
| Not ignorant. Definitely overpedantic.
|
| The Pirate Bay is known for its championing piracy, in
| general. Those streaming sites are piracy. They also
| usually use the same source videos as those found on
| torrent sites; if not outright acting as a thin media
| player on top of torrents, in some cases.
| crtasm wrote:
| The article was published over 5hrs before your comment, do
| you know when those sites added the episodes?
| whalesalad wrote:
| Aw man does anyone remember way back in the day there was a TV
| show produced by (I think Sony?) that was all about IRC pirating?
|
| Edit: I think it was this, "The Scene"
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scene_(miniseries)
| dscottboggs wrote:
| AI generated bullshit slop it just hasn't made it to public
| trackers yet
| 0x38B wrote:
| It's funny how much better the Russian torrent tracker
| <<Rutracker>> is for foreign movies and serials, this show
| included. I love foreign movies and shows, and sometimes I
| literally can't pay to watch it.
| diggan wrote:
| > sometimes I literally can't pay to watch it.
|
| Yup. Top 2 reasons I became a pirate again after not being a
| pirate since maybe 15 years ago:
|
| #1 I literally couldn't give someone money to watch/listen to
| what I wanted
|
| #2 I was paying someone money to watch/listen to something and
| then they removed it
|
| Even popular things like Saturday Night Live are still
| impossible to acquire legally in my country.
|
| Edit: Forgot another point that became very annoying, the show
| is available but not with the subtitles I want and/or need. For
| example, watching a Swedish TV show on Spanish Netflix doesn't
| let me have English subtitles for example. But if I use Swedish
| Netflix, it would work, but technically breaking Netflix's ToS.
| Content rights have completely fucked up the user experience.
| crossroadsguy wrote:
| # 3 There was 1 subscription streaming service to pay for,
| then 2, then 3, then 4... and eventually I decided to stop
| counting but the number kept on going up.
| rightbyte wrote:
| A big bullet point for me is that I find it unethical to
| support most of the studios and media companies.
| bazoom42 wrote:
| How about just not consume their products then?
| JackSlateur wrote:
| I do that, too
| bena wrote:
| Right? "I don't like what you stand for or your views on
| certain topics, _but_ I do want to enjoy the product you
| make, so I feel justified in not compensating you for
| partaking in the services you provide. "
|
| Can I stiff my Uber driver if I don't agree with their
| politics? If I don't like their car? Can my boss not pay
| me for developing software if I didn't laugh enough at
| his jokes?
|
| We find it easy to say "no" in those cases. But because
| media piracy is pretty easy to do and pretty difficult to
| punish, we simply stop caring.
| averageRoyalty wrote:
| I agree with your core concept, but I don't think those
| analogies are fair.
|
| TV and movies are part of pop culture and depending on
| your circle can be critical to have knowledge on for
| social reasons. If something is unavailable to you due to
| means outside of your control (licensing, internet speed,
| accessibility of UI, etc) then there's more justification
| to that than not paying your Uber driver based on
| politics.
| gruez wrote:
| >TV and movies are part of pop culture and depending on
| your circle can be critical to have knowledge on for
| social reasons. If something is unavailable to you due to
| means outside of your control (licensing, internet speed,
| accessibility of UI, etc) then there's more justification
| to that than not paying your Uber driver based on
| politics.
|
| TV and movies are "critical" because... you want to
| partake in watercooler banter? I'm not sure how that's
| more convincing than uber being "critical" because you
| need it to get to work on time, or to get home safely
| after drinking.
| amtc80 wrote:
| > Can I stiff my Uber driver if I don't agree with their
| politics?
|
| That would be an example of the opposite. Uber is pretty
| much a tracker (peer-to-peer platform) for unlicensed
| taxis.
| __MatrixMan__ wrote:
| Agreed.
|
| I'd love a better way to pay the artists of the content I
| end up torrenting--just so long as it actually gets to the
| people who made the content and not the people turning the
| world into a pile of telescreens.
| karaterobot wrote:
| As someone who pirates _a lot_ of movies and TV, I think it
| 's hard to justify based on ethical arguments against the
| industry. At a certain point, it feels like a wobbly
| justification to say we like using something but refuse to
| pay for it, and that's actually fighting the good fight.
| Personally, I don't like some of what these companies do,
| but I like other parts--like the movies and shows their
| dark malevolence provides me. I have to admit that the real
| reason I pirate is because it's more convenient and cheap.
| freedomben wrote:
| I would naturally tend to agree with you, and when it
| comes to DRM-free things (like most music) I totally
| agree, but I genuinely think financially supporting
| companies using DRM is unethical. I used to buy (and
| still would buy) a ton of ebooks and a fair amount of
| movies/shows, but at this point I refuse to. The only
| exception is Audible. I still buy a ton of audiobooks
| from Audible (unless I can find them on Downpour or
| another DRM-free site) because I think they've gotten to
| a reasonably happy medium on the DRM. I would rather they
| drop the DRM, but it's at least not a giant pain in the
| ass to strip for people like me who really care about
| that.
|
| I strongly want to pay people for good content, and I
| think they deserve to make some money for their work, but
| as soon as they slap DRM on it to limit _my_ ability to
| back it up, consume it on whatever device I want, etc,
| the scales are tipped and I think piracy is actually
| _more_ ethical than supporting such shit financially.
| themadturk wrote:
| Are you familiar with libro.fm?
| js2 wrote:
| I sometimes pay for things and then pirate them anyway
| because I can adjust the subtitle position on the pirated
| version. Or I can rely on being able to play them offline. Or
| a dozen other reasons where the pirated version offers a
| better UX.
| zxilly wrote:
| Maybe not related to this topic, but I was thinking about
| certain games I purchased from Ubisoft. Whenever I open
| Uplay, it asks me to log back in and enter a 2FA code. So
| basically all my Ubisoft games are playing pirated versions
| after purchase. By the way the anti-cheat system Ubisoft
| uses, EAC, also refuses to work at the same time as GoLand,
| so I can say that I really don't have a choice.
| wolrah wrote:
| > I sometimes pay for things and then pirate them anyway
| because I can adjust the subtitle position on the pirated
| version. Or I can rely on being able to play them offline.
| Or a dozen other reasons where the pirated version offers a
| better UX.
|
| I've been doing this for years. I have a stack of Blu-Ray
| discs I've never opened because I send a request to my home
| server while I'm in line to check out at the store and by
| the time I get home the exact same content on the disc I
| just purchased has already landed there exactly as if I had
| ripped it myself.
|
| As you note, every element of the user experience is better
| with the pirated copy and absolutely nothing is worse, even
| for those who legitimately own it. The only way you compete
| with free is by being better than the free offering, and
| the home video industry just refuses to acknowledge that
| reality.
| throwup238 wrote:
| Not every element: most pirated media lacks the extra
| content of DVD/BluRay like commentary tracks. It's
| relatively rare to find shows with commentary audio
| tracks alongside the main audio.
|
| Most people don't care about that though.
| Sakos wrote:
| These exist. I have tons of straight and remuxed Blu-ray
| rips from certain sites that contain extra content and/or
| commentary or other tracks. If you know the right sites
| that specifically cater to people who want this stuff,
| it's not a problem.
| miki123211 wrote:
| And audio description[1] tracks.
|
| there are specialized pirate sources that cater to this
| niche specifically, but most of them _only_ have the AD
| tracks as MP3 files, without the actual video.
|
| If you're watching with friends and your audience is a
| mix of fully sighted and visually impaired people, and
| you want both AD and video on the screen, you're in for a
| world of pain.
|
| [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_description
| Sakos wrote:
| There are games I own on Steam where I'll prefer the
| cracked version because of asinine publisher decisions like
| forcing a third party launcher that often gets an update
| which breaks it on the Steam Deck.
| yieldcrv wrote:
| #3 it ultimately got more inconvenient than pirating, just
| like 20 years ago. the streaming apps simply matched parity
| with the early 2000s piracy experience and then surpassed it,
| but then the content licensing system made it lose its
| advantages
| Suppafly wrote:
| >#1 I literally couldn't give someone money to watch/listen
| to what I wanted
|
| This, I'm constantly seeing reels and clips of shows and then
| searching for "where to stream _x_ " on google and finding
| out that not only is the show not available on any of the 5
| or so paid services that I have access to, it's not available
| for streaming at all, or if it is, it's by paying $3 per
| episode.
| karaterobot wrote:
| In case you don't use this resource, try justwatch.com for
| figuring out who streams what.
| Suppafly wrote:
| thanks I always forget the name of that site, just
| searching on google works so-so, sometimes the AI thing
| that structures the results now pops up a useful list and
| sometimes you just links to sketchier versions of
| justwatch.
| karaterobot wrote:
| It's not a great name. I always have to look up what it's
| called by going into Letterboxd and seeing the co-
| branding mark on a specific page. But, a neat service
| nonetheless!
| tuna74 wrote:
| "Forgot another point that became very annoying, the show is
| available but not with the subtitles I want and/or need. For
| example, watching a Swedish TV show on Spanish Netflix
| doesn't let me have English subtitles for example. But if I
| use Swedish Netflix, it would work, but technically breaking
| Netflix's ToS. Content rights have completely fucked up the
| user experience."
|
| I think you can set which subs (and audio tracks) should be
| available in you Netflix profile. I can get chinese voice and
| subs for a lot of stuff in Sweden.
|
| It is the same for Disney+ as well.
| diggan wrote:
| > I think you can set which subs (and audio tracks) should
| be available in you Netflix profile. I can get chinese
| voice and subs for a lot of stuff in Sweden.
|
| It's a geo-content restriction of some sorts. I'm guessing
| some of the subtitles Netflix is leasing/renting/whatever,
| they only lease for specific regions.
|
| I'm 100% sure I've watched shows in the past on Netflix
| where if I use a VPN to set my location to Sweden, I could
| get English or Swedish subtitles, but if I use it without
| VPN (so Spanish location), it would refuse to allow me the
| English subtitles and instead allows Spanish or Swedish
| subtitles.
|
| I'm sure someone more knowledgeable knows exactly why that
| is.
| aniforprez wrote:
| Last I checked, a lot of the time this is entirely
| dependent on region. For eg. the Ghost in the Shell:
| Standalone Complex series on Netflix exclusively has
| English dubbing and English subtitles everywhere but Japan
| but changing these settings did not make the Japanese audio
| available anywhere else that I was able to find out. It's
| also very annoying that sometimes the only subtitles
| available are closed captions when I really only want
| dialog subtitles. It's a real pain that all dialog and
| subtitle options aren't available out of the gate for
| everything.
| deaddodo wrote:
| No, Netflix/Max/Etc literally limit the options available
| to you. They want to try to dissuade people from purchasing
| those services at a discount in lower CoL regions, and
| don't want to deal with multi-region licensing for
| dubs/specific media/etc.
|
| The only regions that give you carte blanche (in general)
| language options are the anglophone countries and some EU
| regions.
|
| But they're also geocoded (presumably, for travelers), so
| if you can get a VPN/tunnel that works, you can use another
| regions' primary languages. Max, last I checked, is the
| only one that outright limits usage outside of your region.
| lukan wrote:
| "For example, watching a Swedish TV show on Spanish Netflix
| doesn't let me have English subtitles for example. "
|
| This is so weird, why are they doing this? That the localized
| audio might have stupid local licenses ok, (or not ok) - but
| even the subtitles?
| changing1999 wrote:
| There is a huge number of TV shows (e.g. old British comedy
| shows) and movies (e.g. big releases from Trier) that are not
| available to stream on any streaming service in the US. There
| is no other option than to pirate. An astoundingly ridiculous
| situation.
| kelvinjps10 wrote:
| For language learning (immersion based) piracy is the way,
| Netflix doesn't allow me to watch most of foreign tv shows and
| a bunch of tools like susbsr2, mpv and other work with the
| local file
| 0x38B wrote:
| As someone who learns really well by listening - things I
| hear tend to stick - audiobooks have been the most enjoyable
| and immersive way to learn Russian and Ukrainian.
|
| Returning to my favorite books is a concentrated dose of
| spaced repetition; e.g. an Andy Weir book will have a lot of
| scientific language, classics like the Lord of the Rings are
| rich with literary language and description.
| Yeul wrote:
| Russian authorities don't cooperate with take downs. The US
| government forces the world to comply.
| redmajor12 wrote:
| Christ, don't mention that tracker here!
| drproteus wrote:
| Never use public trackers (unless you're downloading Linux ISOs
| of course).
| neoromantique wrote:
| Seedboxes are a good investment :)
| diggan wrote:
| > Never use public trackers
|
| ... if you live in a country where the police don't have better
| things to do.
|
| There are plenty of countries where literally nothing happen no
| matter how much you download/upload, even when using public
| trackers. Police there tend to focus on people do the initial
| uploading, if anything.
| zxilly wrote:
| Mostly the police don't care about this, it's the owners of
| the copyrights who care , they might send an email to your
| ISP and then you'll have to pay.
| diggan wrote:
| > they might send an email to your ISP and then you'll have
| to pay
|
| I've probably downloaded/uploaded 10s of TBs at this point,
| in the two European countries I lived in since like two
| decades ago, and never received a single letter or had to
| pay anything. I'm sure there are more countries like these
| two.
| veggieWHITES wrote:
| Been downloading literally whatever I feel like in Canada here
| for the past few decades with nothing more than an email
| forwarded to me from my ISP with some "threats" from the
| original copyright owners :P
| I_am_tiberius wrote:
| The casting is absolutely amazing.
| belorn wrote:
| People may be unware of it, but yt-dlp has support for svtplay
| and thus can access/download the show directly. It may be geo-ip
| blocked however.
| conradfr wrote:
| Before reading the article I thought it would be because of the
| name, like when it was hard to find the (great) album "The Music"
| by the band "The Music" in the early 2000s.
| changing1999 wrote:
| Reminds me of the joke from Peep show about naming their band
| "Various Artists".
| NelsonMinar wrote:
| FWIW I don't see any copies yet on nzbgeek.info, a popular Usenet
| NZB tracker. Almost no releases at all from OLLONBORRE ever, for
| that matter, that's the scene group the article discusses.
| lake_trade wrote:
| Has anyone here seen/remember Welcome to the Scene series on
| YouTube? https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC2FCB2871C396459
|
| I found it to be quite nice, there is a second season as well
| something related to ammunitions smuggling.
| GinsengJar wrote:
| People speculated From Software named the player's horse mount in
| Eldrin Ring Torrent for the same reason.
| palata wrote:
| The intro says:
|
| "[...] made its debut [...] earlier today. International viewers
| are left waiting until other services pick it up. In the
| meantime, [...] finding a pirated copy is proving surprisingly
| difficult."
|
| I don't see the irony there: if it is so new that it is hard to
| find through legit channels, it makes total sense to me that it
| may be hard to torrent. I wouldn't make any conclusion on the day
| of the launch.
| deadlypointer wrote:
| The TPB Afk is a really good documentary about this IMO, not sure
| how this series will compare to that.
| bastloing wrote:
| I can't wait until I can just copy and paste the description or
| plot into an AI and have it generate the whole series or movie.
| Lionsgate and Runway teaming up should make that possible.
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