[HN Gopher] Colors of the Court - NBA Uniforms
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Colors of the Court - NBA Uniforms
Author : abe94
Score : 67 points
Date : 2024-11-08 16:45 UTC (6 hours ago)
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| Keyframe wrote:
| light vs dark was in multiple sports due to early television
| being black and white. It made easy to understand what's going on
| on the screen.
| KineticLensman wrote:
| "And for those of you watching in black and white, the pink
| ball is next to the green"
| lnxg33k1 wrote:
| My football team has started to do the same thing, every now and
| then they change jersey throughout the season (without counting
| the THREE they start the season with) in order to sell new ones
|
| They're making sports really hard to follow, and to be passionate
| about. Now I only watch it if I catch it in a bar and they have
| it on, I am hating football, it was on free tv, now some matches
| are on a paid TV, some other on another one, still paid, before
| it was wednesday, sunday, now it's monday, tuesday, wednesday,
| thursday, friday, saturday and sunday. I hope a lot of people
| stop watching it so that we can go back to something that makes
| sense
| newfocogi wrote:
| Wow, my initial thoughts on more jersey variation is "that's
| kinda fun, but sometimes they're ugly". I'm surprised you think
| it makes sport hard to be passionate about.
|
| I assume you're referring to football (soccer) since you called
| them matches.
|
| Do you really think jersey changes are affecting your passion
| for sports or is this just another example of the system
| breaking down, but pay-to-watch is what's really hurting your
| interest?
| lnxg33k1 wrote:
| It's hurting because they're constantly trying to sell you
| something, even the jersey is full of sponsor in soccer
| syndicatedjelly wrote:
| The multicolored jerseys, not the incessant idiotic gambling
| ads, are what makes sports hard to watch apparently.
| lnxg33k1 wrote:
| why not both, it's not the jersey in itself, its the constant
| tentative of sell you something
| mmooss wrote:
| Aren't the sports generally growing their revenue and
| audiences? It seems the reason for the multicolored jerseys,
| gambling ads, etc. is you: 'You' (most people reading this)
| keep watching, no matter what.
| soared wrote:
| Very cool! Also interesting the the NFL is on a similar trend
| with color rush.
| warner25 wrote:
| It's the same story in Major League Baseball. The proliferation
| of alternate uniforms got so out-of-hand that the league imposed
| a limit of five different uniforms per team last year.
| Unfortunately, one of those uniforms is the City Connect uniform
| which is unrecognizable to the extreme for most teams.
|
| I hate it. I want every team to go back to a white home uniform
| with the team name (or logo like the classic Yankees, Cubs,
| Tigers), and a gray road uniform with the city name, and _maybe_
| one colorful Sunday home alternate worn sparingly.
|
| It's bad enough that the rosters have high turnover every year
| due to free agency. I've said for a long time that it seems silly
| to have a favorite team, because you're basically cheering for
| the uniform (i.e. because the people in the uniform are changing
| constantly) but now that's not even true anymore.
| fsckboy wrote:
| > _the City Connect uniform which is unrecognizable to the
| extreme for most teams_
|
| but it gets even worse in gradations, compare the Milwaukee
| "Brew Crew" uniform which is kinda cool
|
| https://img.mlbstatic.com/mlb-images/image/private/t_16x9/t_...
|
| to the similar color combination Boston "spray painted stencil"
| font abomination
|
| https://img.mlbstatic.com/mlb-images/image/private/t_16x9/t_...
| warner25 wrote:
| True, I'm OK with an alternate, including the City Connect
| uniform for a few teams, that's basically a throwback
| uniform. Milwaukee's is kind of like that, at least with the
| colors. Also Atlanta's, Pittsburgh's, and Seattle's. The rest
| of them... no.
| dfxm12 wrote:
| I get that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but why
| would you describe the font as an abomination? It seems
| unassuming and easy to read to me.
| fsckboy wrote:
| not gonna debate taste, but i was describing the uniform as
| an abomination. I think the font is perfect for indicating
| where in Fenway park the MEN and WOMEN's rooms are, but i'm
| old skool and I miss the group trough urinals
| fredleblanc wrote:
| Those Boston stencil jerseys are the Boston Marathon ones.
| Red Sox play a day game on the same day as the marathon each
| April. It's a whole day of things for the city. The stencil
| approach mimics the days of spray painting down the finish
| line.
| warner25 wrote:
| If they only wore it on Patriots' Day, fine, but they wore
| it _50 times_ in the last four years.
| Jeremy1026 wrote:
| > I've said for a long time that it seems silly to have a
| favorite team, because you're basically cheering for the
| uniform
|
| You and Jerry Seinfeld have the same take,
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we-L7w1K5Zo
| warner25 wrote:
| Thanks for sharing; I haven't heard that clip before, and I
| love it.
|
| I was a Braves fan from the mid-1990s into the 2000s not just
| because they were winners but because they did it largely
| with the same core group of guys, whose playing style I liked
| to watch, over that whole span. I wasn't a Yankees fan during
| that same era, but I could respect Yankees fans because they
| also had a core group of players that stuck together (plus
| they've really held the line on their uniforms).
| Larrikin wrote:
| As someone who used to wear jerseys because I thought they
| looked cool when I was young, I would have never bought a plain
| white or gray one.
|
| I think the city connect jerseys are only bad because they are
| basically a collection of random colors with, often times, no
| association to the team. But if they actually were team colors,
| they would have definitely been interesting to me.
| jgalt212 wrote:
| > City Connect uniform which is unrecognizable to the extreme
| for most teams.
|
| Preach. The NY Mets version looks like Colorado Rockies themed
| children's pajamas.
| PaulRobinson wrote:
| Money is the main driver, of course. I think this trend started
| in the UK.
|
| Before the EPL, most English soccer clubs had one home, one away
| strip. It wasn't that long ago that the only writing would be a
| single number on the back, a club crest over the front left chest
| ("near the heart", you see).
|
| Around the 1980s, it seems to me that European leagues started to
| experiment - England taking a bit of a lead - with shirt
| sponsorship. One side effect was that shirts suddenly aged. Show
| me an Everton shirt with "NEC" on the front, or a Manchester City
| shirt with "brother", well, I know roughly what season that shirt
| is from.
|
| And fans want to wear the current shirt, often. We can take the
| piss out of the "full kit wanker", who turns up to a game in
| shirt, kit shorts and socks, waiting to be subbed in to his
| favourite team, but people like to show allegiance and they like
| to show they're up to date - in the UK even your car number plate
| tells your neighbours how "with it", and therefore how rich you
| are.
|
| Each season a club changed its shirt it would see a boost in
| income as new shirts would replace the old. This was new. And it
| gave them ideas.
|
| First, what about changing the kit when the sponsor doesn't
| change? Some graphic design element, a neck line, maybe a subtle
| colour change?
|
| Then the "third kit" came in. Often used in cup competitions, but
| occasionally an option for league games. Infamously one grey
| third kit had to get changed at half time at Old Trafford, as
| none of the Man Utd team could see each other.
|
| And then as some non-domestic leagues took more prominence -
| European football in particular - some clubs decided to create
| home and away kits for those competitions specifically.
|
| So now we have a situation where clubs like Man City have 3
| "base" shirts, plus goalkeeper, plus fashion variants, plus the
| women's team...
|
| If other leagues can get away with this, they will. Most European
| leagues have a similar thing going on, and it surprised me that
| NBA took so long to catch up, and that NFL haven't gone at this
| at full throttle.
|
| And of course, it has created a collector's secondary market,
| special editions, anniversary shirts, "retro editions", and so
| on.
|
| Sports teams sure know how to milk passion via the wallet.
| 101008 wrote:
| Great summary. My dad had only one or two jersey when he was a
| kid / teenager, because without sponsors they were all the same
| (maybe minor details)?
|
| Now I am usually one of those who get a new jersey every new
| season, or maybe two if I like both home and away designs.
| There were years when I didnt get any, but those were the
| exceptions.
| abe94 wrote:
| A friend works at an english football (soccer) club on the
| sponsorships team and yes money is definitely a big driver
| here!
|
| Part of it is creating more sponsorship inventory - some brands
| can opt in for space on one of the jerseys that fit their
| budgets over others, or play around with sizing.
| asdfasvea wrote:
| Jesus Christ almighty give me a site I can use if you want me to
| absorb your content.
|
| I'm not using a screen reader, I have javascript enabled, I have
| up to date chrome, yet somehow I can't navigate your artsy site.
| What do you think your non-standard navigation is adding that is
| worth the cost of pissing users off?
|
| What do I click on? Where's the content? Why am I guessing how to
| use your site? Actually, I'm done guessing and clicking the back
| button to get off this horrible thing.
| teach wrote:
| I didn't downvote you, but I suspect others did because your
| comment goes against one of the guidelines for HN:
|
| "Please don't complain about tangential annoyances--e.g.
| article or website formats, name collisions, or back-button
| breakage. They're too common to be interesting."
|
| These sorts-of comments always come up whenever The Pudding
| makes the front page, since their visual essays have a style
| that some find offputting. (Personally I think they're
| delightful.)
|
| Almost always, you navigate their essays by scrolling.
| stevage wrote:
| Hey buddy, I love to complain too, but honestly I find the
| Pudding extremely easy to use. What could be more simple than
| keep scrolling down?
| littlekey wrote:
| The implication is that this is a bad thing, but I don't really
| see why. If you're not sure who's playing can't you just look at
| the score overlay and see? I don't follow sports but when I see a
| game on at a restaurant it only takes me a few seconds to
| determine which team is which.
| warner25 wrote:
| I think for a lot of us it's not a practical issue of
| determining which team is which, it's that sports are wrapped
| up in a lot of nostalgia. One grows up watching their team(s)
| as a kid and can continue to do so through the seasons of life
| even as everything else is changing. So it's sad when tradition
| is thrown away and it no longer feels like you're watching the
| same thing anymore.
|
| In my case, I was obsessed with baseball as a kid but I stopped
| playing and stopped following the professionals when I went to
| college, met my wife, started my career, had kids, etc. Now I'm
| coming back around to follow baseball again and I'm often like,
| "What is this? This isn't what I remember." The uniform changes
| are part of that.
| dzonga wrote:
| blame nike for that uniform nonsense.
|
| and in the mlb quality of jerseys has gone down as well.
|
| for soccer nike kits for some teams have been an abormination or
| copy/paste jobs.
|
| in the nfl - meh.
| derfnugget wrote:
| this is an exceptional example of modern website. very nice job.
| may i ask what framework you are using for the UX?
| duxup wrote:
| There's so many alternate uniforms they many seem like low effort
| spam.
|
| My team Timberwolves, some of their alternates are so simple they
| look like something you'd buy for your rec league at some small
| town screen printer...
| crgk wrote:
| As a Chicago Bulls fan, this site seemed like a lot of effort to
| explain a very small shift in their jerseys. I'm happy to see the
| Bulls are a low-flair outlier, and it was cool to be able to
| switch teams to compare.
| stevage wrote:
| Great data collection, nice data vil but somehow it fails to
| yield any interesting insights. I wish they had gotten into the
| why a bit more - are teams forced to choose jerseys that contrast
| with their opponents?
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