[HN Gopher] Sega is delisting 60 classic games from Steam, so no...
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Sega is delisting 60 classic games from Steam, so now's the time to
grab them
Author : mariuz
Score : 31 points
Date : 2024-11-07 21:18 UTC (1 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (arstechnica.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (arstechnica.com)
| jm4 wrote:
| Maybe a controversial opinion, but screw them for delisting
| games. Why would I buy these games when they obviously have no
| interest in selling them? To me, this is a license to go download
| the ROMs.
| keyle wrote:
| But after that, for reasons that Sega does not make explicit,
| they will be "delisted and unavailable."
|
| I really don't understand this move. The hard work is putting the
| games on Steam and making sure they work. Assets, testing,
| integration. Why take them away?
|
| Anyway I'll never use Steam to buy a game anymore anyway, because
| you're only really buying a license to rent a game.
| chupchap wrote:
| > Anyway I'll never use Steam to buy a game anymore anyway,
| because you're only really buying a license to rent a game.
|
| Hasn't that always been the case for all games purchase for a
| while now?
| lxgr wrote:
| I believe GOG still sells a lot of things DRM free.
| jakebasile wrote:
| They are DRM free, but you are still only buying a license
| to the game which can likely be revoked under the terms of
| that agreement.
| dvngnt_ wrote:
| so does steam. it depends on the publisher
| aquova wrote:
| Everything on GoG is guaranteed to be DRM-free (see
| occasional scandal when something sneaks through that has
| it)
| genewitch wrote:
| no all, but any that make you sign a EULA before you can
| start the game, yes.
| margalabargala wrote:
| > Anyway I'll never use Steam to buy a game anymore anyway,
| because you're only really buying a license to rent a game.
|
| I wonder if you misinterpreted the article? The games are not
| being taken away from people who purchased them. They will
| simply no longer be offered for sale.
|
| I know the DRM exists, but to the extent that you trust the
| word of Steam and Gabe Newell, they have said they will release
| a patch undoing all Steam DRM if Steam ever goes out of
| business.
| vikingerik wrote:
| It's easy for them to have that intention, but then the
| realities of operating from bankruptcy court or receivership
| or being assimilated by Microsoft or Sony could be much
| different.
|
| I choose to only buy stuff for like $8 and under where I can
| expect to get my money's worth of gameplay in a short time
| frame and so not have to worry about any long term
| sunsetting. That's a reasonable middle ground between fully
| trusting the platform or fully abhorring it.
| somat wrote:
| Honestly I doubt that, and not because I distrust steam and
| gabe newell, in my books steam is one of the good guys, in an
| industry filled with nickle and dime rent seeking, steam
| provides a reliable, unobtrusive service. Personally I think
| their margin is grossly high. And I too hate how many of my
| games are locked up depending on the benevolence of a
| corporation. But steam has thus far proved to be a very
| useful service, mainly by not fucking up.
|
| I just don't think it could happen because when your business
| is going down in flames, the last thing on your mind is
| giving away the keys to the kingdom. The normal death spiral
| is. The business is unable to make a profit anymore and will
| have to be closed down. however it still has a reputation.
| somebody will buy the business with the expectation they will
| be able to make the changes needed to make a profit. these
| changes are vile, trying to extract any money they can from
| the corpse. it then gets sold to the next sucker. who repeats
| the whole repugnant farce. It is almost never a clean death.
| fourfour3 wrote:
| Do _not_ buy Crazy Taxi from Steam. It has broken input (analogue
| controls are really digital without fan patches), and does not
| play the original audio.
| simonlc wrote:
| My guess is licensing, they probably sold exclusive licenses, and
| part of that is delisting on other platforms.
| AcerbicZero wrote:
| Probably this; I wonder if they're all going to Epic for a few
| years before coming back.
| nitwit005 wrote:
| Or they think they can make more selling some sort of bundle.
| aquova wrote:
| I dont think so, they own a lot of these games and IP's
| outright, and most don't have licensed content. I think they're
| doing the same thing they did when they removed the Sonic
| titles from the collection a few years ago -- they're preparing
| some new title for those IPs, and some of these games will come
| with, so people will double dip under the guise of cleaning up
| their offerings
| SllX wrote:
| Not sure about other platforms but at least on the Switch this
| doesn't affect the Sega Ages line of games. As far as I can tell,
| this is specially the line of releases they titled Sega Classics,
| but the Sega Ages line are typically the best in class individual
| titles put together by M2.
| ahofmann wrote:
| All four posts in this thread have obviously not read the article
| in full. Sega does this allegedly because they want to sell some
| kind of classics in stores. So while they have this sale, they
| delist the steam games.
| AcerbicZero wrote:
| I mean, bold of you to assume that delisting a game from steam
| would stop me from acquiring it, if I wanted to, but ok.
| Rapzid wrote:
| I don't think this is about you.
| GauntletWizard wrote:
| All of the games on this list comprise the "Buy SEGA Mega Drive
| and Genesis Classics" and "Dreamcast Collection" bundles. My
| guess is that part of it is the emulation layer - They use a
| shared backend and launcher for the Genesis games. Maybe they
| couldn't come to a license agreement with the emulation
| developer?
|
| The standouts for me are Jet Set Radio and NiGHTS into Dreams.
| The former is well known for it's soundtrack; Ain't nothing but a
| funky beat. The latter is unique and doesn't quite work, but
| there's something compelling anyway about the dreamlike visuals
| and weird floaty gameplay. Crazy Taxi is one I loved as a kid,
| but it's a bad port - an "Enhanced Remake" that ruined the game
| by leaving out it's killer soundtrack and breaking the controls.
|
| https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/10143/SEGA_Mega_Drive_...
| https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/14082/Dreamcast_Collec...
| rosmax_1337 wrote:
| If you don't remove old good content nobody will buy the new bad
| content.
|
| Sounds cynical and it's certainly a practice which isn't exactly
| widespread, yet.
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