[HN Gopher] The heartbreak behind Dorothy Parker's wit
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       The heartbreak behind Dorothy Parker's wit
        
       Author : samclemens
       Score  : 33 points
       Date   : 2024-10-31 14:50 UTC (4 days ago)
        
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       | brudgers wrote:
       | https://archive.ph/Lm9Lq
        
       | JKCalhoun wrote:
       | Guessing this is the book cover depicting Dorothy Parker that the
       | author of the article refers to: https://i.gr-
       | assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads....
        
         | dredmorbius wrote:
         | I'd rather focus on her literary and political work than her
         | appearance, and plan to return to this thread later on that
         | point, but yes, she does serve as a caution to overindulgence
         | in drink and smoke.
         | 
         | Fetching in her youth, though:
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         | <https://www.boweryboyshistory.com/wp-
         | content/uploads/2017/03...>
         | 
         | On politics: the article briefly mentions her assistance to
         | Martin Luther King, Jr. For quite some time her remains were
         | interred at the NAACP's headquarters, to be reinterred when the
         | NAACP moved from Baltimore to Washington, DC.
         | 
         | In a collection of short stories I'd read recently I was struck
         | by several which touched on race and racism. One involved what
         | we'd now probably call a "Karen", making increasingly effusive,
         | and non-credible, claims to race-blindness. The character's
         | dialogue was absolute cringe, and this was obviously
         | intentional on Parker's part.
        
       | seanhunter wrote:
       | Perhaps the most famous example of her wit is her damning review
       | of Katherine Hepburn in a broadway play: "She ran the whole gamut
       | of emotions, from A. to B.", but I quite like another less well-
       | known one which was when someone challenged her to come up with a
       | pun and to make things more difficult she had to use the word
       | "horticulture". Parker came up with "You can lead a
       | 'horticulture', but you can't make her think."
        
         | downut wrote:
         | That last one is simply genius.
        
       | adamc wrote:
       | Both her wit and her pain are on display in the poem Resume.
       | https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/44835/resume-56d22415...
       | 
       | She lived in a difficult period for bright women who needed to
       | express their thoughts. It's still a difficult period for such
       | women, although it has improved.
       | 
       | She left her estate to MLK. She was the right stuff. Some details
       | here: https://dorothyparker.com/dorothy-parker-haunts/baltimore-
       | na...
        
         | stevenwoo wrote:
         | It's darkly funny and tragic given what we know about her
         | suicide attempts, although we should separate fiction from
         | autobiography, I'm reminded of Virginia Woolf's contemporary
         | novels where it feels like there's always adult characters
         | making jokes about committing suicide, it really stands out now
         | since Woolf chose the river.
        
       | herodotus wrote:
       | Dorothy Parker died in 1967. In 1972, my university presented its
       | first ever computer science course: a second year course,
       | teaching both IBM 360 assembly language and Fortran. The driving
       | force behind this was Derek Henderson, one of the first people to
       | receive a PhD in Computer Science. And a member of the team that
       | designed the IBM 360.
       | 
       | What did this have to do with Dorothy Parker? Well the year I
       | took my first Computer Science course from Prof. Henderson (as he
       | was known to me), I discovered two passions in my life -
       | programming, and the very cool women on campus who all seemed to
       | be carrying the book "The Portable Dorothy Parker" with them
       | everywhere.
        
         | rmk wrote:
         | I was fortunate to come across this book in one of the many
         | "Little Free Libraries" that dot my neighborhood. I dip into
         | the massive tome every now and then and am consistently
         | surprised by the quality of the writing. The writing conveys
         | her feelings, and there is a clear "woman's voice" that comes
         | through.
        
       | ableal wrote:
       | In case anyone else is curious about the photo not shown in the
       | article, the paperback edition mentioned is probably this:
       | https://www.amazon.com/Portable-Dorothy-Parker/dp/0140150749
        
       | ajb wrote:
       | The 1920's and 30's were a particularly unfortunate time to be a
       | young woman, because after the slaughter of young men in ww1, not
       | only were young men then (hypocritically) put on a pedestal, but
       | there were fewer to go round, making for a somewhat unnatural
       | competition between women. The results in terms of women's lives
       | can be found in the literature of this era, although not always
       | foregrounded (for example, in Dorothy L Sayers)
        
       | billfruit wrote:
       | Obnoxious paywall does not let us see a paragraph or a few lines
       | even.
        
       | downut wrote:
       | I've used this one all my life:
       | 
       | "Eternity is a ham and two people"
       | 
       | Especially when the spouse's company simply mails one to us every
       | year, and I want to give it away.
        
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