[HN Gopher] I couldn't find a free, no-login, no-AI checklist ap...
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I couldn't find a free, no-login, no-AI checklist app-so I built
one
Author : millhouse1112
Score : 81 points
Date : 2024-11-03 16:52 UTC (6 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (lalacheck.fly.dev)
(TXT) w3m dump (lalacheck.fly.dev)
| steve_adams_86 wrote:
| When I press "New Checklist" I get a white screen (iOS 18.1).
| gl-prod wrote:
| Thats erroring 429 too many requests
| chilipepperhott wrote:
| Uh oh. DNS down
| syngrog66 wrote:
| vi checklist.txt
|
| approach works also with diff, grep, find, git, zip, scp/sftp,
| rsync, pandoc etc etc
| millhouse1112 wrote:
| I use vi ~/todo.xit. xit is this text format:
| https://xit.jotaen.net/
|
| But this app is for other purposes. Me and my wife add house
| stuff to a shopping list. We don't want an installed app. Or
| even login before using a simple list.
| vdvsvwvwvwvwv wrote:
| There are also decent notes apps on android and ios. I use them
| to checklist my gym workout.
| millhouse1112 wrote:
| I know. The idea is to share and collaborate on the same
| checklist. No installed apps. I want to give a direct URL for
| someone not a play store URL.
| vdvsvwvwvwvwv wrote:
| Oh I see. Nice project!
| nicksergeant wrote:
| https://github.com/sjl/t
| augasur wrote:
| I also get white screen when i pres "new". Firefox 132.0 Windows
| 11.
| millhouse1112 wrote:
| I'm using fly.io free plan. I will solve these issues.
| politelemon wrote:
| At the very least, add the issues to your checklist!
| lagrange77 wrote:
| 16 points and it returns a 429 (Too many requests). I wonder what
| the avg. factor between HN points and site visits is
| approximately.
| marginalia_nu wrote:
| Any link on the HN front page gets flooded with bot traffic.
| mcint wrote:
| And I would trust you to know, of surfacing small sites.
| handsclean wrote:
| People occasionally post numbers and IIRC the front page peaks
| at ballpark 1 req/s.
| vorticalbox wrote:
| I'm not sure why it has to do any requests at all. One would
| think you could make a todo app with some html, tiny amount of
| js to store it in local storage.
| millhouse1112 wrote:
| I want to share lists with others.
| gchamonlive wrote:
| State could be easily exported, encoded in base64 and
| bundled in a shareable link, just like excalidraw does
| millhouse1112 wrote:
| Got it. But once modified by someone the share link
| changes.
| ersiees wrote:
| Why is it only for 7 days available?
| millhouse1112 wrote:
| It's a free app. I don't want to keep all the data for a long
| time. Should I increase this? What duration makes sense for
| you?
| bambax wrote:
| If it was purely local (saved on localStorage) it could be
| stored indefinitely? But then of course it would be hard to
| share.
| foreigner wrote:
| Store the state in the URL
| millhouse1112 wrote:
| Yep. It's a share-first app in a sense.
| hanniabu wrote:
| 30 days makes more sense
|
| Also why not make it all client side? When they grab a share
| link you can convert the text to image, image to base64 to
| spend to the URL, and when somebody opens the link you ocr it
| and recreate the list.
| type_Ben_struct wrote:
| base64 isn't just for images. You can encode text so unsure
| why you'd need OCR?
| millhouse1112 wrote:
| Me and my wife make some changes together. Add, remove,
| check, uncheck. Groceries list, etc.
|
| With this approach we should share the new URL again after
| each change.
| joegahona wrote:
| I would try to find data like "tasks over 30 days old never
| get completed" and tie the decision (and marketing) to
| something like that.
| millhouse1112 wrote:
| I misconfigured the rate limiting. 429 should be ok now.
| anonymous344 wrote:
| nice and simple ui design. i like it.
| millhouse1112 wrote:
| Thanks a lot.
| GaggiX wrote:
| This is the kind of stuff you can now simply ask Claude 3.5
| Sonnet to build it for you and it will do it, no need to search
| for one.
| millhouse1112 wrote:
| And how do you share this brand new app with someone free?
| pizzafeelsright wrote:
| Cloudflare can store this with trivial effort.
| amiantos wrote:
| How many checklist 'apps' have AI in them? That you couldn't find
| one without it? Or is it just a marketing thing now to say "no-
| AI" to bank on the anti-AI movement in tech?
| mostlysimilar wrote:
| You'd be surprised how many perfectly good companies are
| diluting their products with irrelevant AI features.
|
| When you're in an empty block in Notion the prompt puts "press
| space for AI" *before* "/ for commands". Totally blatant
| disregard for the actual useful features of the app in favor of
| hyping up their AI stuff.
| Moru wrote:
| The programmers that has been around for a while sooner or
| later starts to notice a pattern.
|
| I remember some salesperson asking if we shouldn't start
| using XML (or some other thing he had heard, think it was
| XML). Not sure where he heard it but it made absolutely no
| sence whatsoever. We were already using XML in the backend
| talking to others backend services but I was trying my best
| to get away from it... But there was no reason he would even
| know what XML is. He hardly knew how to use a computer to
| browse the web at the time.
|
| Whatever is popular at the moment has to be used or you
| aren't hip and not following the times.
| baxtr wrote:
| It's the new GMO-free label
| ned99 wrote:
| there's literally thousands of checklist apps
| paulcole wrote:
| It's marketing. They want to make it seem unique and special.
| millhouse1112 wrote:
| I know ^^. Could you send me a simple one that fits my needs?
| OJFord wrote:
| TickTick
| millhouse1112 wrote:
| Needs login
| OJFord wrote:
| If it does that's recent, I used it for ages before
| creating an account. I did a while ago, for some features
| that needed it (a joint list with my wife, mainly) but it
| wasn't mandatory, and still free.
| dmix wrote:
| All multi-device/synced TODO lists have authentication to
| keep it private. That's half the utility. Add an item
| when on your laptop or iPad then when you need it outside
| you pull out your phone.
|
| TickTick also has markdown notes and a calendar. I use
| the notes probably as much as lists, which fit desktop
| usecase better. Lists could be fine if it was mobile only
| but still annoying.
| benbristow wrote:
| https://to-do.office.com/
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| Free with Office 365 / Microsoft account. Decent desktop &
| mobile apps too and integration into Outlook/Teams. API
| available via the Microsoft Graph and integration with
| PowerAutomate if you want IFTTT/Zapier-like functionality.
|
| https://learn.microsoft.com/en-
| us/graph/api/resources/todo-o...
| millhouse1112 wrote:
| Needs login. I don't want that.
| benbristow wrote:
| How else are you going to sync your list across devices?
| It's Microsoft, be very surprised if you didn't have an
| account for any of their services.
| millhouse1112 wrote:
| It's just an URL
| agolio wrote:
| Notes (builtin to iOS)
|
| Reminders (builtin to iOS)
| millhouse1112 wrote:
| My wife uses Android. It should be web based anyway.
| avaldez_ wrote:
| Like 80% of the world uses Android though.
| spiderice wrote:
| Then isn't Google Keep roughly the Android equivalent?
| edfletcher_t137 wrote:
| You may want to consider a keep-alive strategy based on usage and
| not an arbitrary static timeout. What if I need my checklist for
| 7.5 days? A corollary is that this may _reduce_ your overall data
| usage as a lot of people may create a list and immediately
| abandon it. If you can expire those in _less_ than 7 days, you
| 're saving.
| millhouse1112 wrote:
| Good idea. It's simple to track this. What idle duration limit
| makes sense for deletion?
| edfletcher_t137 wrote:
| That's a great question! And fortunately, one where you can
| use human behavior as a guide: if someone is actively using a
| checklist it seems reasonable to presume they're at least
| accessing it once a day. So as a quick first-pass, double
| that time period to two days. Also start collecting usage
| metrics and mine those in the future to further refine this
| number.
| stanmancan wrote:
| User initiated; maybe some arbitrarily long duration measured
| in years.
| nbk_2000 wrote:
| 90 days since last view, or 1 year if you can afford to be
| generous. For "slow burn" projects with other people
| checklists easily go longer than a week without being looked
| at.
| martinskou wrote:
| Idea: - Local data so I can access my CL without network. -
| Templates. Start CL from predefined template. - History. Which
| templates completed when. - Hierarchical items. - Share or
| export/import. - Logic engine. Some items might not be relevant
| in some scenarios.
| millhouse1112 wrote:
| - I like the local first approach. I was already thinking in
| making all changes local, then syncing after. - I also like the
| template. I have a checklist that I reuse everyday. Maybe a
| reset button (to uncheck all items) simply solve this. But the
| template or gallery is cool. - Hierarchical items or sections
| would be nice. - Share is simple, just give the link to
| someone. What import or export formats are you thinking?
| petabyt wrote:
| I searched 'checklist app github' and found several free no-ai
| and no-login options on the top of google results.
| millhouse1112 wrote:
| So every person needs deploy before using it.
| Muromec wrote:
| But deploying it yourself is how you ensure your compliance
| with Butlearian Jihad ideals.
| m00x wrote:
| yeah but how many canadians users are you actually
| expecting
| petabyt wrote:
| The 3 I tried had online demos, I didn't need to deploy
| anything.
| aardvark179 wrote:
| I just make a checklist in a note on my phone. It's accessible
| even when I have no network access and I can share it with
| people.
| millhouse1112 wrote:
| What app?
| aardvark179 wrote:
| Just the normal iOS notes app.
| loloquwowndueo wrote:
| But you can't share it with people running Android.
| therealdrag0 wrote:
| For checklists, iOS Reminders app is great,
| nicexe wrote:
| My wife and I are using https://shared-lists.com mainly for
| shopping. Free, no-login, no-AI checklist app.
| millhouse1112 wrote:
| I like it. But most of these pro features I will add for free.
| westurner wrote:
| TodoMVC/examples has 40+ open source todo apps written with
| various popular and obscure frameworks:
| https://github.com/tastejs/todomvc/tree/master/examples
| udev4096 wrote:
| How does a post like this gather so many upvotes? There are a
| bajillion "check list" apps on github
| ilrwbwrkhv wrote:
| It's a friends and family round.
| beretguy wrote:
| millhouse1112 probably used Google search
| millhouse1112 wrote:
| If you send me one that fits my needs, it's easy to use, no
| deploy neede then I will probably shutdown lalacheck. I don't
| even have a domain yet.
| spencerchubb wrote:
| What are your needs that can't be satisfied by default notes
| app on phones?
| millhouse1112 wrote:
| No installed app. Must be shareable.
| therealdrag0 wrote:
| Or Apple ships a very good Reminders list app. Surely
| there's an equivalent for other brands?
| spiderice wrote:
| You're posting it here, presumably so people can use it.. yet
| already advertising that you'll shut it down as soon as
| something else that fits your needs comes along? What is the
| point of this if it can't even be relied upon?
| millhouse1112 wrote:
| I'm building something that fits my needs. More energy I
| give to this project more will be reliable.
| dandanua wrote:
| I gave up on finding a suitable app and just use a jupyter
| instance on my local server. Every task is a cell and you just
| delete it when it's finished.
| millhouse1112 wrote:
| I use a plain text file locally. But my main need is to share
| it.
| abe-101 wrote:
| How to raink on top of HN nowadays: Include key words such as
| "free", "no-login" and "no-AI" in the title.
| sandreas wrote:
| @millhouse1112
|
| I was in a similar situation like you. Nothing seemed to fit and
| I wrote one myself without a login.
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| Then I noticed, that it would be nice if my wife had access, too,
| but that required at least multiple lists.
|
| Then I noticed, that it would be better, if there were lists for
| her, lists for me and also shared ones (like grocery), but that
| required some kind of authentication.
|
| I chose QR-Codes / login tokens to solve this and it works pretty
| good. Seems like it has no login (due to locally stored tokens),
| but it can at least identify a user.
|
| So, I still think my list[1] is better than others for MY
| personal purpose, but it is still very incomplete. Maybe it
| fulfils your needs...?!
|
| 1: https://github.com/sandreas/pure-todo
| millhouse1112 wrote:
| I like the QRCode idea. For lalacheck if the list is private I
| don't share, if the list is to someone I share it. But makes
| sense the collection of lists or tasks.
| eisvogel wrote:
| It would be fantastic to add two simple features: 1) task groups
| (for example, a project) and 2) drag-and-drop reordering of
| tasks. Then it would be the only task manager one would need.
| millhouse1112 wrote:
| I like it. Drag and drop/reordering will be added for sure.
|
| I'm going to avoid adding robust features as much as possible.
| It's not meant to be a Todoist, Trello or others.
| bitbasher wrote:
| Whatever happened to pen and paper? To opening a text editor and
| type your list?
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| Do we _really_ need an app for that?
| millhouse1112 wrote:
| I use both. But I can't share and collaborate on both easily.
| bathtub365 wrote:
| There are multiple collaborative text editors and document
| apps.
| dmix wrote:
| I don't even like carrying a wallet around these days unless I
| have to. I don't want to carry 2 more objects on top of that.
|
| Plus I forget my grocery list half the time but never forget my
| phone.
|
| I only use Postit notes when I'm at the desk strictly for stuff
| I need to do around it.
| bitbasher wrote:
| Open the notes app on the phone and type your list? Do you
| need another app for todo items?
| dmix wrote:
| That's a good point, I never fully learned Notes. I just
| like using markdown writing longform stuff and the
| simplicity of a dedicated todo interface with shortcuts to
| quickly add them w/ dates etc.
| bentt wrote:
| This is great!
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