[HN Gopher] Make It Yourself
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       Make It Yourself
        
       Author : deivid
       Score  : 212 points
       Date   : 2024-11-01 13:09 UTC (9 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (makeityourself.org)
 (TXT) w3m dump (makeityourself.org)
        
       | fsmv wrote:
       | Pretty cool that it's just free and there's really no pretext
       | just a compilation of cool projects. Almost makes me feel like
       | I'm missing something.
        
         | 0xdeadbeefbabe wrote:
         | You are missing time. Time will make the links break, and time
         | will make the component parts harder to find, etc. Also,
         | managing this catalog over time isn't glamorous enough for a
         | headline or even a pretty picture. Economies change over time,
         | and doesn't that go without saying?
        
       | qazxcvbnmlp wrote:
       | Can you buy this as a printed book? The design/inspirational
       | quality is exceptional.
        
         | jiri wrote:
         | Without clickable links to actual content it is not very useful
         | to have it printed.
        
           | jvanderbot wrote:
           | Wait, so adding clickable links would make it _more_ useful
           | after being printed??
           | 
           | In all seriousness, I, too, immediately wanted to buy it for
           | the coffee table and to thumb through for inspiration in an
           | analog way.
        
             | nuancebydefault wrote:
             | You took parents sentence too literally. After having it
             | printed it is without clickable links and hence not very
             | useful.
        
       | lurn_mor wrote:
       | Funny, I have a folder of links of this very stuff: Future rainy
       | day projects. Oh, to have the free time and focus!
       | 
       | Good job on the illustrations and the cultivating of so many
       | projects into one book. I think you've given me a lifetime of
       | weekend projects!
       | 
       | One note: you might want to put 'download' in the link to the
       | PDF, so it downloads instead of showing up in a new browser
       | window, which seems to be your OG design choice: <a
       | href="https://makeityourself.org/MIY.pdf" download
       | target="_blank"><div class="download">Download</div></a>
        
         | rafaelalb wrote:
         | You mentioned the folder, now please share it! I enjoy these
         | ideas very much.
        
       | joekrill wrote:
       | Why a PDF? The PDF is just pictures of things that link to an
       | external site (Thingverse, various blogs, etc) where you find the
       | actual instructions. The PDF itself doesn't contain instructions
       | at all - just an index/catalog, really.
        
         | SamBam wrote:
         | Seems like it would be a lot more accessible for a lot of
         | people if it were a set of HTML pages.
         | 
         | I expect that whatever was used to create the PDF could be
         | configured to produce a website...
        
           | thecatspaw wrote:
           | also on a webpage you would be able to filter it by available
           | tools/knowledge
        
             | TeMPOraL wrote:
             | Or not. Maybe you'd get "infinite scroll". Or some other
             | modern webdev bullshit that's strictly inferior to PDF (or
             | plain HTML) and CTRL+F.
             | 
             | I'm actually surprised by the anti-PDF sentiment here (in
             | general case, not necessarily this book). Modern web is so
             | bad, that almost every day I end up on some page that would
             | be strictly better if it were a PDF. So, to play devil's
             | advocate, PDFs are cool because:
             | 
             | - The links may rot, but _they remain_ , and so does
             | surrounding content. Once you get a PDF, no one can take it
             | away from you.
             | 
             | - It's self-contained. It can easily be transferred between
             | devices and read without an Internet connection.
             | 
             | - _It 's a file_. Yes, it's important to mention because in
             | 2024, files cannot be taken for granted.
             | 
             | - Rich format without spurious dynamics and other web
             | nonsense. Sure, PDFs technically can run arbitrary
             | JavaScript, but hardly any reader supports that.
             | 
             | - Can't track you or spy on you (theoretically it could, in
             | practice, see previous point).
             | 
             | I could come up with a few more. Point being, you could do
             | worse, and modern web quite often _is_ worse.
             | 
             | As for what could be an even better format, my mind is
             | drawn towards CHM[0]. You know, like the help files in old
             | Windows software. A self-contained file built of
             | interlinked HTML pages, complete with index and internal
             | search/xref. Kind of a better EPUB[1].
             | 
             | (Ironically, marketers should actually _love_ PDF - total
             | control over presentation is exactly what they 've been
             | trying to gain on the web all these years.)
             | 
             | --
             | 
             | [0] -
             | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Compiled_HTML_Help
             | 
             | [1] - Despite being _a decade older_.
        
         | deivid wrote:
         | n-o-d-e publishes most (all?) projects as open source, I'm sure
         | the book sources are/will be available somewhere
        
         | treefarmer wrote:
         | Had the same thought - it's also annoying to update the PDF
         | once links die, so I doubt that'll happen often. I guess it
         | might be helpful if you want it as a coffee table book...
        
         | seemaze wrote:
         | While I enjoy the content, I find myself surprisingly annoyed
         | at choice of PDF as the format. It's the worst of both
         | traditional and web publication modes; low accessibility AND
         | low portability
        
           | nlarion wrote:
           | This isn't the first time I've read a comment criticizing
           | PDF, but it is the first time I can recall the Portable
           | Document Format (PDF) being accused of low portability.
        
             | seanw444 wrote:
             | Yeah that is ironic regarding both the name, and the fact
             | that it's one of the most viewable formats on any given
             | system.
        
               | deskr wrote:
               | > most viewable
               | 
               | It is, but the UX trying to read a A4/letter sized PDF
               | document on a phone is absolutely horrible.
        
               | sophacles wrote:
               | This is basically the same reason I think sports cars are
               | horrible... trying to fit a 10 ton roll of steel in the
               | backseat is nearly impossible.
        
         | Y_Y wrote:
         | This sounds like a good job for a fancy LLM.
         | 
         | "For each entry in this PDF, follow the link and give a
         | structured explanation of how to make the thing."
         | 
         | I don't know if any off-the-shelf tool is capable of that today
         | though.
        
       | marvinborner wrote:
       | For context since it's not mentioned on the website: This is a
       | project by n-o-d-e[1], they make blog posts and videos about diy
       | tech/mods. This specific project is described in [2].
       | 
       | [1]: https://n-o-d-e.net/
       | 
       | [2]: https://n-o-d-e.net/makeityourself.html
        
         | sxp wrote:
         | They also have techno-optimistic YouTube channels that I love.
         | There haven't been any new videos for a while, but some of the
         | older ones are worth watching:
         | 
         | https://www.youtube.com/@NODEtv/videos
         | 
         | https://www.youtube.com/@MOSFETnet/videos
         | 
         | I think all of the videos have a written version on
         | https://n-o-d-e.net/ for those who prefer that style of
         | content.
        
       | dharma1 wrote:
       | love the illustrations! all custom made?
        
         | aydgn wrote:
         | what are the other options?
        
           | egypturnash wrote:
           | Stock illustration sites. Renders of stock 3d models. Stolen
           | without credit. AI generated.
        
       | stonethrowaway wrote:
       | WARNING:
       | 
       | Do try this at home.
        
       | ben_ wrote:
       | As cool as this is, it seems a bit bare? Titles/descriptions are
       | hidden away at the bottom of each page and all the renders are
       | plain black and white (which makes me ask why pdf anyway?)
       | without detailing purpose or use (where not obvious)
        
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