[HN Gopher] Omnivore Is Joining ElevenLabs
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       Omnivore Is Joining ElevenLabs
        
       Author : janpio
       Score  : 76 points
       Date   : 2024-10-29 15:37 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (blog.omnivore.app)
 (TXT) w3m dump (blog.omnivore.app)
        
       | andreagrandi wrote:
       | Thanks for making the code base open source
        
       | xz18r wrote:
       | I was already wondering why development on Omnivore was halted...
       | 
       | This isn't good news at all for Omnivore users. It made me
       | legitimately consider switching away from my self-hosted Wallabag
       | instance because everything looked so sleek and promising; in
       | terms of read-it-later apps, it really held the promise of the
       | big next thing (as far as that can apply to such a "simple"
       | category).
       | 
       | I'm not sure if articles read aloud is the thing that Omnivore
       | users are looking for, per se. Ah well, they'll know why they did
       | it...
       | 
       | On a side note:
       | 
       | > All Omnivore users will be able to export their information
       | from the service through November 15 2024, after which all
       | information will be deleted.
       | 
       | Just me or is that extremely short notice? That's in 2 weeks...
        
         | theschmed wrote:
         | > Just me or is that extremely short notice? That's in 2
         | weeks...
         | 
         | It is not just you.
        
       | dod9er wrote:
       | Too bad... I also really liked it and used. Seems like I go for
       | wallabag again. Maybe it will be possible to selfhost omnivore at
       | some point in time ?!
        
         | qw3rty01 wrote:
         | It already has a self-hosting option:
         | https://github.com/omnivore-app/omnivore/tree/main/self-host...
         | 
         | It's just not documented well.
        
           | thylacine222 wrote:
           | It's not a great self-hosting option, tbh, depends on a lot
           | of Google services and the support for it in the apps can be
           | finicky.
        
             | xz18r wrote:
             | The license allows forking, become a hero!
        
       | lxgr wrote:
       | tl;dr: They got acqui-hired and are shutting the app and service
       | down.
       | 
       | Ugh, it was so good!
       | 
       | Self-hosting it seems quite complicated, though. I really hope
       | somebody will step up and offer a hosted version of it.
        
         | dod9er wrote:
         | Yes, just as it is right now I would love a cheap alternative.
         | No need for fancy speech or AI features from my Side. Do one
         | thing and do it good...
        
           | theshrike79 wrote:
           | [delayed]
        
         | guptarohit wrote:
         | why good things don't last longer.
        
       | raybb wrote:
       | Ugh anyone have a rundown of how good the parsing is on wallabag
       | vs instapaper vs pocket (or something else)?
        
         | darthwalsh wrote:
         | I had been using Pocket until a few months ago, and pocket's
         | parser was a little better. It wouldn't choke on GitHub repos,
         | for example.
         | 
         | But both would miss significant article content :/
        
       | thylacine222 wrote:
       | this really sucks, it's by far the best reader app out there.
       | Hoping that people will be able to figure out a straightforward
       | way to do self-hosting, because I would be willing to use the app
       | as it is right now forever.
        
         | 0x6c6f6c wrote:
         | Except on Android, where you couldn't even tag saved articles.
         | 
         | I noticed development had stopped weeks ago. Sort of figured
         | something like this was going to happen. Unfortunate, but I'll
         | be happy on Wallabag again. I'd been just waiting for a push to
         | do migrate back.
        
           | thylacine222 wrote:
           | I seem to be able to tag articles, do you not have an "Edit
           | Labels" option in the article menu? Regardless, they
           | definitely were lagging on Android development, but it was
           | still finished enough to use it. There's even a version that
           | supports pagination:
           | https://github.com/tent4kel/omnivore/releases/
        
       | Carbon1603 wrote:
       | So, where to go next?
        
         | paulmorabito wrote:
         | I'd love an easier self hosted option too.
         | 
         | In the meantime, if you are in the Apple world then Goodlinks
         | is a privacy friendly option for saving articles to read later.
         | 
         | I haven't found a decent alternative that can add articles via
         | email like Omnivore. My workaround is to get the RSS link from
         | Substack and add these to my RSS reader that I self host
         | (FreshRSS).
        
           | samantha-wiki wrote:
           | I'm looking into migrating to FreshRSS from omnivore now.
           | 
           | Does [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/165n
           | nk6/comment...) solve the email ingestion issue for you?
        
             | paulmorabito wrote:
             | I've heard of this but didn't use it because all of my
             | email newsletters are on substack and substack supports
             | RSS. Also, with substack RSS, you get a feed per newsletter
             | whereas Kill The Newsletter gives you one feed for all
             | newsletters going to their address.
        
           | leshokunin wrote:
           | Feed in gives you an email address for newsletters
        
       | jamil7 wrote:
       | I built and ran a read it later app in the iOS app store for a
       | few years as a side project. I found it pretty difficult to
       | monetise and the support burden got to me. I eventually just
       | pulled it from the store as I was getting emails and reviews and
       | felt I couldn't really give it the attention it needed. I saw
       | quite a few competitors coming and going over the years, either
       | through acquisitions or developers just losing interest. It seems
       | like a difficult thing to make work sustainably.
        
       | darrmit wrote:
       | Ugh this is the only read-it-later service I ever found that
       | "stuck". It was so simple and good. This sucks.
        
         | cstuder wrote:
         | I came from Instapaper after their price hike to Omnivore and
         | went back to Instapaper. I felt that Omnivore was over-
         | complicated with their "every folder is a filter" structure.
         | Instapaper feels much more straightforward.
        
       | bberenberg wrote:
       | For what it's worth I've contacted them to see if they would be
       | open to handing over the hosted version. The current answer is
       | no, based in part on wanting to delete user data. I suggested I
       | could take it without data and users could reimport their data
       | post handover. If you'd like to see this happen send them an
       | email and voice your support.
        
       | freeqaz wrote:
       | Damn they're giving under 3 weeks to export before you lose all
       | of your data? That's insane! If I were on an extended vacation
       | and missed this, my data would be gone when I get back.
       | 
       | They _really_ should increase that to be longer! Switch to read-
       | only, but give at least 3-6 months to export. That's crazy
       | otherwise
        
       | petemir wrote:
       | I have not tested them yet, but (actually) self-hosted potential
       | alternatives: linkwarden [0], hoarder [1]
       | 
       | [0] https://github.com/linkwarden/linkwarden
       | 
       | [1] https://github.com/hoarder-app/hoarder
       | 
       | Edit: fixed wording
        
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