[HN Gopher] Writing in Pictures: Richard Scarry and the art of c...
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       Writing in Pictures: Richard Scarry and the art of children's
       literature
        
       Author : cainxinth
       Score  : 198 points
       Date   : 2024-10-29 13:24 UTC (9 hours ago)
        
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       | bell-cot wrote:
       | A prior Richard Scarry item on HN, in Aug'23 -
       | 
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37044673 (47 comments)
        
       | cafard wrote:
       | I remember the books as a staple of pediatricians' waiting rooms,
       | and we had some at home, too. Scarry also published a book on how
       | to draw things--cars, I recall, I suppose people and animals.
        
         | topherjaynes wrote:
         | that and the toy with wires and blocks you could move around.
        
       | andrewla wrote:
       | I never experienced Richard Scarry as a child myself. I
       | discovered it for my own children in a pile of books left on
       | someone's stoop to give away. I was immediately blown away by the
       | whimsy and astonishing care put into every detail. My kids
       | obsessively hunted for the "goldbug" on each page of Cars and
       | Trucks and Things That Go (although they never developed a taste
       | for finding Waldo).
        
         | iambateman wrote:
         | Same. I think I've read C&T&TtG 200 times to my son.
         | 
         | Making it to the beach scene always feels like an
         | accomplishment :D
        
         | ojl wrote:
         | I got the Swedish translation as a kid more than 40 years ago
         | and also spent plenty of time trying to find the goldbug. Still
         | have the book and my kids loved it as well.
        
         | longdustytrail wrote:
         | I "read" cars and trucks and things that go for my 2 year old
         | every night. He recently found out that goldbug is on every
         | page and now he won't let me turn the page until we find him.
         | It's genuinely a lovely book. We got ours from buy nothing,
         | it's very old and taped up and it has a bunch of writing in it
         | by a kid named Max.
        
           | teachrdan wrote:
           | When your son's interest in finding goldbug inevitably flags,
           | what worked for my kiddo was theatrically sighing, "I wish
           | goldbug was on _this_ page. Oh well... " and then acting like
           | I was going to turn the page before I could be corrected.
           | Then you can escalate to "accidentally" covering goldbug up
           | with your thumb and pretending not to know he's under there.
           | It's basically DLC for your board book!
        
         | xxr wrote:
         | I was obsessed with Richard Scarry's intricate drawings as a
         | very small child (which led into devouring all the cutaway
         | books of all sorts of machines as a slightly older child), but
         | I didn't pick up on the goldbug thing until someone pointed it
         | out a few weeks ago.
        
       | topherjaynes wrote:
       | Richard Scarry's books were such a cozy universe growing up, I'd
       | still like to live in "What people do all day." I wonder what
       | that book would look like if he made it today.
        
         | mattkevan wrote:
         | You might enjoy Business Town:
         | https://welcometobusinesstown.tumblr.com
        
           | orange_joe wrote:
           | Seems like a totally different thing, very political and
           | adult oriented.
        
             | tivert wrote:
             | Also something about the characters gives me the cold, dead
             | feel AI generated art (even though they do not appear to be
             | AI generated). Can't put my finger on exactly what it is,
             | though.
        
           | kridsdale3 wrote:
           | I hate this. It seems like it was made by a Brooklyn hipster
           | in a black and red plaid shirt with thick black framed
           | glasses.
        
         | 082349872349872 wrote:
         | You can (and it would't look _that_ different).
         | 
         | I left the Old Country for my adopted country in part because
         | it reminded me of "What do people do all day" - although I was
         | not conscious of the resemblance until my father, having seen
         | the not-a-pig dude from the city coming around with a little
         | vehicle specially outfitted to water various geraniums, pointed
         | it out.
        
       | Multiplayer wrote:
       | I read his books every day when really young. He created such a
       | great world to imagine. The note about him moving to Switzerland
       | makes sense - his world did feel really European now that I think
       | about it.
       | 
       | My kids, now grown, did not get to experience his books - are his
       | books sold widely anymore?
        
         | edmundsauto wrote:
         | I have an infant and we have a number of his books. Some bought
         | new.
        
         | showerst wrote:
         | His books are still kicking around, although not as big as they
         | used to be. My toddler has a few.
         | 
         | They're still lovely books, but I think they're less popular
         | mostly because they're a bit dated now; lots of obsolete jobs
         | and few female animals doing any of the cool jobs.
        
           | vehemenz wrote:
           | I have a 5yo daughter, and I appreciate that *What Do People
           | Do All Day?* have female characters in homemaker roles, which
           | is still common in most of the world. Many of her other books
           | have female protagonists doing everything else.
           | 
           | Part of an education should be learning how other people
           | live, whether it's in the past or in another part of the
           | world. And of course, there's nothing wrong with being a
           | homemaker today.
        
             | tivert wrote:
             | > I have a 5yo daughter, and I appreciate that _What Do
             | People Do All Day?_ have female characters in homemaker
             | roles, which is still common in most of the world. Many of
             | her other books have female protagonists doing everything
             | else.
             | 
             | Is that a new copy or an old one?
             | 
             | The newer editions of Best Word Book Ever were updated to
             | be less stereotypical (I think there's a gallery somewhere
             | that shows the changes). Unfortunately the updated art is
             | noticeably inferior (even to my untrained eye), and in some
             | places kinda dumb (on one page I think they decided they
             | needed more girls, so they phoned it in and slapped a big
             | "LISA" on the shirt of some androgynous animal). Also they
             | dropped A LOT of content, so the newer editions are
             | something like half as long.
        
               | vehemenz wrote:
               | If it's updated, then I couldn't tell. Everything seemed
               | like 50s/60s in it to me.
        
           | bitwize wrote:
           | Richard Scarry's books are problematic because of the reasons
           | you stated, and I think there were issues with ethnic and
           | gender stereotypes as well (similar to issues with Dr.
           | Seuss). He updated some of them in the 90s to reflect
           | changing mores, but I don't know if those efforts reached all
           | of them.
        
         | jansan wrote:
         | Yes, you can buy them. When I was a child, my friend owned the
         | "Cars and Trucks and Things That Go" book and I spent hours
         | browsing the book by myself when visiting him. When I had
         | children, it was one of the first books that I bought, and they
         | loved it, too, although not quite as much as me. It is a great
         | present for young children if you don't want to bring a
         | Nintendo gift card.
        
       | doright wrote:
       | I was most familiar with the DOS games as a child. They even had
       | Red Book soundtracks of the townsfolk singing about various
       | professions. Building the house was my favorite activity back
       | then.
       | 
       | https://archive.org/details/BusytownDOS
       | 
       | https://archive.org/details/busytown_dos
        
         | syndeo wrote:
         | I have fond memories of the Sega Pico Busytown game, played
         | that plenty as a little kid:
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm55P3ziI84
        
         | kridsdale3 wrote:
         | There was a sound clip in one of these that became a long
         | lasting meme in my family, invoked for years and years whenever
         | someone got hurt.
         | 
         | "PUT A BANDAGE ON IT"
        
         | camtarn wrote:
         | I had no idea that there were Busytown games! Very cool, thank
         | you for linking.
        
       | aaronbrethorst wrote:
       | I loved Richard Scarry when I was little, although I think it
       | instilled in me a belief that the world was in a constant state
       | of chaos. (maybe that's accurate.)
       | 
       | My toddler is now obsessed with them and demands "CARS AND
       | TRUCKS", "SITE" or "HOUSE" every night at bedtime.
        
         | dingaling wrote:
         | 'Chaos' is a great observation. I only had a couple of Scarry
         | books as a child but there was something dynamic about them
         | compared to most children's books and I think it was the
         | frenetic and chaotic nature of them. There was always a pickle
         | barrel spilling over, or oranges rolling across a road.
         | 
         | I didn't even know what a pickle barrel was, but it obviously
         | made a mess when someone crashed into it.
        
           | euroderf wrote:
           | The overwhelming & pervasive chaos in all the illustrations
           | kinda bugs me. I wonder if it puts the wrong ideas in a kid's
           | head. Or else I'm just lamous.
        
           | aaronbrethorst wrote:
           | Mr Frumble the apple man has dumped his load of apples on the
           | road by mistake. Lowly thought he had the only apple (n.b.
           | Lowly worm is driving his apple shaped car) on the road, but
           | my isn't he mistaken!
        
       | throw4847285 wrote:
       | Oh hey, this is written by Chris Ware. It makes sense that he
       | would be a huge fan of Scarry.
        
       | tikhonj wrote:
       | I loved Richard Scarry as a child--still do!--and I'm convinced
       | his books really helped build up my vocabulary as I learned
       | English in first grade.
       | 
       | A detail I only mentally noted as an adult: the butchers in his
       | books are always pigs themselves. A pig selling ham, sausages
       | and, presumably, cuts of pork is a bit morbid (and also hilarious
       | in a black humor sort of way), but it fits in with the world so
       | much that I didn't even think twice about it as a kid. It just
       | slid past me.
       | 
       | I still remember one of the books I had as a child--can't recall
       | the title exactly--that had a bunch of urban scenes with various
       | objects labeled. What really stood out were the little details
       | and funny little stories going on. The stories and the humor got
       | me to pay attention and actually care about the objects (and
       | their labels!) far more than any generic vocabulary book for
       | kids.
       | 
       | What I love about Richard Scarry is that he is never patronizing
       | or condescending. Too many authors of children's books either try
       | to write _down_ to kids, try to write what they _think_ kids
       | ought to read, or both. But kids aren 't idiots and they can
       | tell! Well, I can't speak for everyone, but at least as a kid
       | myself I found a lot of children's works either patronizing or
       | unpleasant--works that were trying too hard to be childlike or,
       | especially, works that were transparent morality plays.
       | 
       | Scarry's work is nothing like this at all. It's oriented for and
       | accessible to kids, but it manages to be simple and silly in a
       | _genuine_ way. The art and stories are actually cute and funny
       | rather than caricatures of what an adult thinks a child would
       | find cute and funny. You can tell Scarry was making something he
       | would enjoy himself. That 's why I loved his books when I was
       | five and why I still love his books now.
       | 
       | It's hard to find other children's books like that. I collect
       | illustrated books and the majority I see in stores are awful. The
       | most successful exception I've seen are books by Joe Klassen (of
       | _I Want My Hat_ fame) along with his common collaborator Mac
       | Barnett. Their books are legitimately funny _and_ visually
       | attractive to adults, they 're willing to write stories that
       | aren't entirely saccharine, _and children absolutely love them_.
       | I 've seen that first-hand.
        
         | tivert wrote:
         | > A detail I only mentally noted as an adult: the butchers in
         | his books are always pigs themselves. A pig selling ham,
         | sausages and, presumably, cuts of pork is a bit morbid (and
         | also hilarious in a black humor sort of way), but it fits in
         | with the world so much that I didn't even think twice about it
         | as a kid. It just slid past me.
         | 
         | Also: every scarecrow has a crow sitting on it.
        
           | tikhonj wrote:
           | I hadn't noticed that. It's an absolutely hilarious little
           | touch.
        
         | ninalanyon wrote:
         | > I didn't even think twice about it as a kid. It just slid
         | past me.
         | 
         | I think that the best children's books always have something in
         | them that will be appreciated later. They can be read and re-
         | read as one grows older. Probably the greatest prose exponent
         | was Lewis Carroll.
        
           | queuebert wrote:
           | I think also they put something in for the parents so reading
           | the same book over and over and over to your kids isn't as
           | boring.
        
         | kridsdale3 wrote:
         | > I still remember one of the books I had as a child--can't
         | recall the title exactly--that had a bunch of urban scenes with
         | various objects labeled.
         | 
         | I have this in my son's room. It's called "Busy Busy Town".
        
         | cduzz wrote:
         | My wife was quite sad when I suggested to her that "this little
         | piggie went to market" was in fact the farmer taking the pig to
         | the market to be butchered, and that "this little piggie went
         | wee wee wee all the way home" was probably a piglet taken from
         | its family to replace the "now big enough to sell" pig....
        
           | 082349872349872 wrote:
           | If you wish to enjoy sausage, it's probably best not to
           | enquire into how swine are raised and kept in our time.
        
             | cduzz wrote:
             | I think she'd always imagined a pig with a hat and overalls
             | walking down the street to buy the sunday newspaper...
        
             | lnsru wrote:
             | My colleague was transported to mental health institution
             | with an escort of police straight from the office. And was
             | kept there for 2 weeks. People are treated like trash by
             | other people. I don't want to think about industrial animal
             | farming. It's probably the worst of the worst.
        
         | 082349872349872 wrote:
         | See https://kieranhealy.org/files/misc/levimartin.pdf
         | 
         | "What do animals do all day?": The division of labor, class
         | bodies, and totemic thinking in the popular imagination (2000)
         | 
         | > _Keywords: Animals; Totemism; Class body; Busytown; Symbolic
         | domination; Division of labor_
         | 
         | (36pp, not entirely serious, about which animals do what in
         | Busytown; contrasted with _Babar_ , etc.)
        
         | WhyCause wrote:
         | > The most successful exception I've seen are books by Joe
         | Klassen (of I Want My Hat fame)...
         | 
         | If you haven't read it The Dark[1] (his collaboration with
         | Lemony Snicket) is also great; my kids absolutely love the
         | voices I do for the animals in _I Want My Hat Back_ and for the
         | titular Dark.
         | 
         | [1] https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Bccb-Ribbon-Picture-
         | Awards/dp/03...
        
       | neofrommatrix wrote:
       | I absolutely adore Richard Scarry books. I discovered Richard
       | Scarry a couple of months ago when I was looking for books to
       | read for my 3 year old. Now, not a moment goes by in the evenings
       | when we are reading the adventures of Lowly and his seek and find
       | books. It's a ritual every night. Richard Scarry and the Grumpy
       | Monkey series are a godsend.
        
         | bityard wrote:
         | I very HIGHLY recommend the Busytown Eye Found It board game.
         | Kids of all ages have a blast with it, and it's even moderately
         | challenging for adults. We played ours so much we basically
         | wore it out.
        
       | mikeocool wrote:
       | Man I loved Richard Scary growing up.
       | 
       | I initially thought my 1.5 year old didn't quite have the
       | attention span for Cars and Trucks and Things that Go yet, but
       | recently, after learning the word bus, he picked it up and
       | dutifully started going through each page and finding all of the
       | buses.
        
       | smusamashah wrote:
       | Looked at Richard Scarry's books on google images in hopes to
       | find a book I read as a kid but don't remember its name or much
       | of it. Richard's art is similarly colorful but Writing it here in
       | hopes someone else may know?
       | 
       | There were some blobby looking ice-cream/sundae in it. And a
       | picture story where someone made very tall icecream. So tall that
       | a helicopter was putting scoops on top (or may be it was placing
       | the cherry on top, but i remember that helicopter touching that
       | icecream). It was a colorful cartoony style art in the book.
       | 
       | Having strong imagination as a kid, the pictures in this book
       | always felt real (hard to explain). Then I remember looking at
       | this book many years later as a grown up and not feeling them as
       | real. It's been many many years since then and I want to have a
       | glimpse again.
        
         | influxed wrote:
         | Looked through all my kids Richard Scarry books and couldn't
         | find that. But might be in Helicopters and Other Fun Things.
         | Internet Archive has it but no logins to borrow books:
         | https://archive.org/details/helicoptersother00newy/mode/thum...
        
       | skibz wrote:
       | While I never read any of his books, I must have driven my
       | parents _mad_ with how much I watched The Busy World of Richard
       | Scarry on VHS.
        
       | Tokkemon wrote:
       | If you've never seen the animated TV series based on the books,
       | you're totally missing out. It's incredible:
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m76NQMJGtc&list=PL66vbXJhfF...
        
       | bitwize wrote:
       | Richard Scarry was a resident of my former hometown of
       | Ridgefield, CT, as was fellow author-illustrator Maurice Sendak
       | (Where the Wild Things Are). My school's librarian recommended
       | his books with particular pride.
       | 
       | Come to think of it, a lot of children's authors seem to have
       | lived in that area, western CT or eastern upstate NY. Some,
       | including Judy Hawes and Jean Van Leeuwen, came to visit my
       | school to talk about their books, reading in general, etc.
       | 
       | In college I referred to the textbooks used by Management
       | Information Systems majors as "Richard Scarry books" because they
       | were full of colorful, busy illustrations and light on technical
       | detail.
        
       | velcrovan wrote:
       | I can still recall my impressions from reading these books at
       | five years old, and the difference between them and the world I
       | eventually entered does make me sad.
       | 
       | I've been struck by how the world is depicted to my children in
       | so many children's books. "As you grow, you'll be able to slot
       | into a happy productive life, no matter what kind of work you
       | like."
       | 
       | No joke: every time I read my daughter a Richard Scarry book, I
       | wonder when and how it will have to be broken to her that unless
       | her interests happen to include something that pays a living
       | wage, she's actually fucked for life.
       | 
       | Think about what it would be like to grow up or to raise children
       | in a world where the ramp to adulthood was incredibly wide and
       | smooth and it was near-impossible to fall off a cliff into
       | poverty, loneliness, or a life of work you hate.
       | 
       | Busytown isn't a real place, but it was obviously designed to
       | give children some sense of what the world is like or supposed to
       | be like.
        
         | 0xcafefood wrote:
         | This is an overly dour take on children's books.
         | 
         | I don't disagree that young people (at least in the US) are
         | told a lie like "Do what you love and the money will follow." I
         | fell for that and tried to become research scientist, getting a
         | far as receiving a PhD only to find that the funnel from there
         | to a tenured research job was _extremely_ narrow. That's a
         | giant waste of many motivated people's time. And it does need
         | to be fixed.
         | 
         | But is the source of all this Richard Scarry books? I really
         | doubt it. It's okay to give a rosy view of the world to
         | children. Childhood is the longest and best vacation you'll
         | ever take. But there does need to be an incrementally higher
         | dose of "real talk" as children grow into young adults.
        
           | velcrovan wrote:
           | Maybe I should have been more clear: I see this as a problem
           | with the real world, not with children's books. The books are
           | good. What's busted is that so many adults don't see such a
           | world as worth building and working towards.
        
             | verisimi wrote:
             | The story is right, but reality is wrong?
             | 
             | Perhaps you have an issue with interpretation here. The
             | pleasant story was the illusion here.
             | 
             | PS - I too loved the Richard Scarry books as a child and
             | bought them for my children - and I'm not even from the US.
        
               | velcrovan wrote:
               | All I'm saying is that we ought to make a conscious
               | effort to build the world that is more aligned with the
               | world we'd like to explain to our kids.
               | 
               | I think stories that describe better possibilities than
               | what we have are useful cognitive and social tools.
        
               | verisimi wrote:
               | Yes, but I'm not sure that the job is to 'change the
               | world' - I don't want to fend off those who think they
               | know what I need. I think it's more about changing
               | oneself to align with what one finds here, whilst trying
               | to remain true to oneself.
        
             | pfdietz wrote:
             | Adults correctly see there's nothing they can individually
             | do that would have detectable effect toward such a goal.
             | So, the cost/benefit ratio is a loser.
        
               | velcrovan wrote:
               | I used to think this way too. My outlook on life
               | transformed when I found out about this amazing concept:
               | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_action
        
               | pfdietz wrote:
               | But you see, the marginal benefit of individual action is
               | always low, even if there are others that are
               | collectively acting. It pays to defect and let those
               | other people do the job.
        
               | wizzwizz4 wrote:
               | That's easily resolved by being a kind of person who
               | experiences empathy involuntarily, and finds it hard to
               | _ignore_ injustice let alone participate in it. This
               | makes defection more expensive than cooperation.
        
         | jonas21 wrote:
         | Do you think the animals in Busytown are all working their
         | dream jobs and following their passions? Of course not -- as
         | someone else pointed out, the butchers are all pigs!
         | 
         | But they mostly seem to have found something that they like
         | well enough and contributes to society. And perhaps that's an
         | important lesson to take away. Part of living a happy,
         | fulfilling life is finding joy in what's attainable.
        
           | velcrovan wrote:
           | > But they mostly seem to have found something that they like
           | well enough and contributes to society. And perhaps that's an
           | important lesson to take away. Part of living a happy,
           | fulfilling life is finding the joy within what is attainable.
           | 
           | I fully agree about all of this. The sad fact is that, in my
           | country, a person with this humble and contented perspective
           | is rolling the dice when it comes to housing, health, and
           | autonomy, and many of them lead unnecessarily stressful and
           | lives with no time/energy for community or creative
           | development. That's the part I would like to see fixed.
        
           | gffrd wrote:
           | > they mostly seem to have found something that they like
           | well enough and contributes to society.
           | 
           | Exactly! It shows people being valuable to each other in
           | small ways, having purpose, and being involved in each
           | other's lives.
           | 
           | And it emphasizes the joy and texture of everyday life. The
           | little things.
        
         | tikhonj wrote:
         | I mean, the books definitely show lots of "real" jobs, and ones
         | people wouldn't necessarily be naturally passionate about.
         | 
         | What's missing is all the bullshit jobs and awful management.
         | But, even if you wanted to, you probably couldn't really convey
         | that in a children's book... Hell, even most adult books fail
         | to capture just how bullshit the bullshit is!
        
         | boplicity wrote:
         | Similar thoughts:
         | 
         | Almost every children's book that depicts a serious issue, such
         | as racism, tells a complete story where the problem is solved
         | _and is no longer a problem._ I believe this is a big part of
         | why so many people think that racism (again, for example) isn
         | 't a problem anymore.
         | 
         | Because, they learned, from a very young age, and for many
         | years, that such problems were _solved._
         | 
         | There is a very strong and understandable impulse for
         | children's books to be comforting, and to shy away from un-
         | answered questions. This, as you point out, leads to a warped
         | view of reality that parents then _should_ correct.
        
           | naught0 wrote:
           | I think it's less children's books and more decades of
           | propaganda from right wing sources decrying things like
           | affirmative action, DEI etc. If some are to be believed,
           | white men are the most discriminated group in the US.
        
             | wizzwizz4 wrote:
             | Propaganda does not exist in a vacuum. Absent supportive
             | power structures, it's really quite ineffectual. And what
             | _is_ a supportive power structure? Well... us, ultimately.
             | 
             | > Well certainly there are those more responsible than
             | others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth
             | be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only
             | look into a mirror.
             | 
             | > While I'll admit that anyone can make a mistake once, to
             | go on making the same lethal errors century after century
             | seems to me nothing short of deliberate. [...] All you had
             | to say was "NO."
             | 
             | -- V, _V for Vendetta_ ; monologues by Lilly and Lana
             | Wachowski, and Alan Moore, respectively.
        
           | dfxm12 wrote:
           | This kinda happened with adults after they watched the West
           | Wing. It's not just media aimed at children. Lots of prime
           | time TV is like this.
        
         | naet wrote:
         | I have sort of the opposite feeling reading some children's
         | books to my son, especially ones that I can remember from my
         | own childhood. It's great for me to remember to look at the
         | world in a more childlike way. Even though I have more
         | responsibilities as an adult, like bills to pay, I also have
         | the freedom to be silly, enjoy time with my family, do
         | something creative, etc. Any given day I can decide I want to
         | try something new in the kitchen, make a big mess concocting
         | some crazy recipie, maybe decide it didn't work out and go grab
         | a pizza for dinner instead. Or I can write some stories or
         | poetry, or take a sketchbook to the lake, snap some photos at
         | the train station, or whatever catches my fancy on that day. I
         | think we sometimes forget we have certain freedoms as we settle
         | in to typical patterns and go a little on autopilot, but all it
         | takes is a gentle nudge to rediscover that type of fun.
         | 
         | I switched careers later in life after finding that it was
         | difficult to make money in my initially chosen field, but I
         | don't feel "fucked for life" by it. I actually feel a lot
         | better about doing things I like _outside_ of work. It 's much
         | more rewarding to be creative if I'm not trying to maximize
         | profits or otherwise commodify what I'm doing. Sure I wish I
         | didn't have to work and could do whatever I wanted all the
         | time, but I work generally acceptable hours at a stomach-able
         | enough job and have time outside work for family and fun and
         | I've made my peace with that.
        
           | velcrovan wrote:
           | All of this very much describes my situation in life too. I
           | would just like for that same level of autonomy and freedom
           | to be the default reality for my kids, and people in general,
           | no matter what work they choose to do, even "uninteresting"
           | work, so that they have this kind of ample leisure and
           | autonomy to pursue their interests outside of their jobs. In
           | my country that is very much not the case, not sure about
           | where you live.
        
         | rohfle wrote:
         | - born 1919       - upper middle class life in boston       -
         | started illustrating 1949       - started writing original
         | works 1955       - moved to switzerland 1972       - died 1994
         | 
         | He wasnt alone in his world view at the time. Think about how
         | much the world has changed since.
        
         | havblue wrote:
         | We aren't talking about children here exactly, but I think
         | adults tended to do a disservice to teenagers as I was growing
         | up by not citing the mean employment statistics of certain
         | jobs, especially ones related to the arts. We can thank the
         | generation who survived the great depression and the boomers
         | for this eternal optimism. "Oh well, by the time things really
         | go south I'll be long gone anyway, sorry!"
        
           | switchbak wrote:
           | When I was a teenager, my parents weren't particular involved
           | in my educational choices nor my career plans. I was mostly
           | left to my own devices. Despite this, I was very much aware
           | of the tradeoffs in the educational path I was choosing.
           | 
           | Perhaps it's because I didn't grow up wealthy, but the
           | financial facet of both my education and eventual career was
           | front and center for myself and my friends.
           | 
           | It would have been nice for the adults in my life to have
           | told me these things, but a competent 16-19 year old is also
           | plenty able to ascertain these things themselves.
        
         | jandrese wrote:
         | I too was disappointed that in the real world it is pretty hard
         | to find a pickle car to drive.
        
           | switchbak wrote:
           | Not to mention how often they get flattened by a steam
           | roller!
        
         | dfxm12 wrote:
         | _I wonder when and how it will have to be broken to her that
         | unless her interests happen to include something that pays a
         | living wage, she's actually fucked for life._
         | 
         | You have a hand in shaping the world she will grow up in. If
         | this is important to you, keep it in mind at least next
         | Tuesday.
        
         | bityard wrote:
         | I'm not sure you are not doing your daughter a lot of good with
         | such a pessimistic outlook on life. You might consider doing
         | some soul searching and try to work out what really matters in
         | life (hint: it isn't money) and then figure out how to adapt.
         | At least externally, if that's what it takes. When my kids were
         | young, my wife and I made a pointed effort to teach our kids to
         | see the wonder in everyday things and situations. Even if they
         | didn't seem all that special to us. That's what most of us have
         | to do.
         | 
         | That aside, Busytown is set in a small town. The culture of
         | towns vary of course, but _generally_, small town life is
         | vastly different from urban or suburban life. There is far less
         | social isolation. (Most) people help each other out without
         | needing to be asked. You may disagree with your neighbor's
         | political opinions but can still have a beer with them in the
         | backyard. And so on.
        
       | te_chris wrote:
       | My (nearly) 2 year old reads Cars and Trucks etc. for ages on end
       | like it's a sacred text.
        
       | divbzero wrote:
       | _Cars and Trucks and Things That Go_ is a child favorite and
       | _What Do People Do All Day_ has great depictions of saw mills,
       | flour mills, power plants, and more, but I like Richard Scarry's
       | _I Am a Bunny_ the most: The pages are filled edge-to-edge with
       | his vibrant illustrations (no whitespace as in his other books)
       | and the story by Ole Risom describes the timeless passing of the
       | seasons.
        
         | T-will wrote:
         | Seconded. I recently read _I Am a Bunny_ to my toddler. I was
         | totally blown away by the artwork. Every night I found myself
         | hoping that she request it.
        
       | drummojg wrote:
       | I still remember looking at these with my mother when I was
       | small. We loved to hunt for Gold Bug. She told me later in life
       | that her favorite was, "Lowly worm washes his face and foot." (He
       | always wore a sock and shoe on the end of his tail.)
        
       | balls187 wrote:
       | Most likely know this, but in many books there is a gold bug to
       | be found on each image set.
        
       | andrewstuart wrote:
       | For a very long time - maybe years - every night I would ask my
       | little boy what he wanted me to read him at bedtime.
       | 
       | ALWAYS he would say "Robber Book!" which was a Richard Scarry
       | book that had a couple of robbers/burglars in it. In hindsight it
       | was the cars he liked the most - cars are a major feature of
       | Richard Scarry books and my little boy was car crazy from the
       | moment he was born it seems.
        
       | gwern wrote:
       | > There were, of course, obstacles. One of the less appealing
       | features of Golden's business practice was that, with rare
       | exceptions, they offered no royalties. This arrangement nagged at
       | Scarry, especially after his and Patricia's son Huck was born in
       | 1953, so in 1955 he finally asked the imposing white-haired and
       | lavender-blue-eyed Lucille Ogle for a revised contract that
       | included royalties--and an advance. She readily agreed.
       | Surprised, Scarry asked why she hadn't offered such a deal
       | earlier. "Because you never asked," she replied.
        
       | drillsteps5 wrote:
       | Bought some of these when my kids were between 3-5 yo. Several
       | years ago they re-published a series of them, including the cars
       | and trucks, what do people do all day, the funny stories, and a
       | few others (I think 6 books in total). I got the entire series at
       | B&N, they were easily the favorite books of my youngest who was
       | about 4 or 5 at the time. I had no idea they were so old!
        
       | jfk13 wrote:
       | For something that's more of a substantial story than things like
       | _Cars & Trucks_ or _Busy Busy Town_ , let me put in a word for
       | _Peasant Pig and the Terrible Dragon_. My kids had it pretty much
       | memorized long before they could read it for themselves.
        
       | GeekyBear wrote:
       | It's interesting to see relatively new works that have been
       | beloved by generations of my immediate family.
       | 
       | Richard Scary's illustrstions were absolute favorites for myself,
       | my siblings and all of our offspring when we were looking at
       | books before we learned to read, and The Phantom Tollbooth by
       | Norton Juster later became our favorite book as young readers.
        
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