[HN Gopher] How not to sort by average rating (2009)
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How not to sort by average rating (2009)
Author : notracks
Score : 43 points
Date : 2024-10-25 16:01 UTC (3 days ago)
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| dang wrote:
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| SubiculumCode wrote:
| With this many prior discussions here, I guess the only
| question to ask is: Are any major sites using this method, or
| at least providing a way to combine sort with a filter items
| with under X ratings.
|
| If anything, it seems like the likes of Amazon are making it
| harder to sort and filter, using dark patterns to direct you to
| their preferred products.
| sahmeepee wrote:
| Amazon's product search is largely useless, at least in the
| UK, now. It typically returns many items that don't include
| your search term, are outside the price range you specified
| and are not sorted in the order you asked for. The top half
| the list being "sponsored" items is just the enshittified
| cherry on the turd cake.
| impure wrote:
| > Many people who find something mediocre will not bother to rate
| it at all; the act of viewing or purchasing something and
| declining to rate it contains useful information about that
| item's quality.
|
| Not really sure, some people have different base likelihoods of
| rating something. I will rate apps when I see the app rating
| popup because it's simple and I know how important that app
| rating is. But the majority of people will just instinctively
| close it.
| encom wrote:
| >app rating popup
|
| If I see an app rating popup, I will rate the app 1 stars for
| annoying me with popups.
|
| I'm sick of rating things. I can't write an email to a company,
| without getting a follow-up email to rate my interaction with
| them. Same for telephone calls. Every time I charge my car on a
| public charger, the app will ask me to rate my charging
| experience. If I order a pizza, I get asked to rate it. Just...
| fuck off. I'll rate/review things if I feel strongly enough
| either way about it, but just stop pestering me about it.
|
| Remember to please rate this comment!
| prettyStandard wrote:
| I like how you landed on the original thought.
|
| > declining to rate it contains useful information about that
| item's quality.
| encom wrote:
| In some cases, yea probably. But many things I'm asked to
| rate, the baseline expectation is that the product or
| service just works like it's supposed to. For the EV
| charger, my car is either charged or it isn't. If it is,
| you have delivered your service as advertised. If it isn't,
| sure I can indicate your charger is broken or on fire or
| whatever, but you probably already know because of
| telemetry. If I'm at a restaurant, sure my opinion can be
| more nuanced.
|
| The incessant rating prompts just come off as... needy and
| insecure I guess. And annoying.
| ClassyJacket wrote:
| Same. I have dozens of Play Store reviews that just say "Kept
| pestering me to rate, so here's your rating. One star."
|
| I've tried to do this on Amazon for companies that attempted
| to bribe me for a positive review, but sadly Amazon doesn't
| allow you to mention review bribes in reviews, and they don't
| get posted.
| JansjoFromIkea wrote:
| I'd also include some temporal aspect in many cases, a review on
| Amazon from the day it arrives is far less likely to include
| useful information than one from several weeks/months later. This
| would also filter out a lot of the reviews that seem to review
| the wrong thing (i.e. reviews that are about the seller rather
| than the item).
|
| Maybe even start including an incentive to re-review items
| several months on?
| nightowl_games wrote:
| I actually had this problem recently and I just sorted by
| absolute numbers of positive ratings and it worked pretty well.
| (You could only rate thumbs up/thumbs down). Nice to see a more
| mathy solution tho
| kuhewa wrote:
| I reckon a user might expect to see 100 up/1 down ranking
| higher than 1000 up/1000 down
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