[HN Gopher] RP FLIP escapes wrecker's claws
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RP FLIP escapes wrecker's claws
Author : tomohawk
Score : 33 points
Date : 2024-10-27 19:17 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| sitkack wrote:
| That is the great news I needed today.
|
| It is sobering to know that humanity is continuing to make
| wholesale mistakes that are only offset by a wonderful minority.
| You could be the next person to save a different Flip.
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RP_FLIP
| kylehotchkiss wrote:
| The next big flip to disappear is A380s :( quite a few have
| been decommissioned already (so soon), production has ended,
| and we're left only with a350s and 777x (lol) to follow in its
| footsteps.
|
| Meanwhile airports haven't gotten bigger and more people are
| flying.
| rootusrootus wrote:
| Seems like Boeing made the right call when they canceled
| their own plan for a new superjumbo back in the 90s. The A380
| is cool, but not economical to fly. The future is more planes
| like the 777X.
| AdamJacobMuller wrote:
| Deeply ironic considering how wrong Boeing has been in so
| many other ways, but, its been fairly obvious that the hub-
| and-spoke model the A380 was built for was dying in favor
| of the point-to-point model of the 787/777x.
|
| Airbus will adjust far better than Boeing could have, had
| they been wrong.
| nradov wrote:
| Around the same time that Airbus was designing the A380,
| Boeing did waste a lot of time and money designing the
| Sonic Cruiser. The bet was that customers would pay for
| faster point-to-point travel, bypassing large hubs. This
| strategic error is one of the reasons why they still
| haven't built a new single-aisle airliner.
|
| https://simpleflying.com/boeing-sonic-cruiser/
| fsckboy wrote:
| > _Meanwhile airports haven't gotten bigger and more people
| are flying._
|
| many smaller market airports have spare capacity and point-
| to-point flying from one to another reduces demand on the
| large hubs, which is what Boeing (lol) told Airbus (i am very
| smart) before they even started on the A380.
| DaiPlusPlus wrote:
| > The next big flip to disappear is A380
|
| Just like with wildlife charities, those dang charismatic-
| megaavians get all the public-attention - so the
| nonthreatening and cuddly appearance of the A380 gets to be
| on the sponsor-an-airframe marketing posters, but people need
| to be aware of the importance of strong aerodiversity and the
| need to protect and preserve smaller planes, like a Piper
| Club or an Ekranoplane.
| kortilla wrote:
| >Meanwhile airports haven't gotten bigger and more people are
| flying.
|
| This was the flawed thinking that led to the production of
| the a380 and its ultimate demise. It turns out that people
| mostly don't like layovers and more efficient mid sized
| planes flying between cities people actually want to go to is
| much better.
|
| I don't have to care about the capacity of ORD when I can
| just fly to SFO directly from the east coast. The airports
| with the worst capacity problems (cough LHR) generally had
| that issue because they were major layover hubs too. The
| economics will just eliminate them as a hub and life will
| move on.
|
| The 777ER came in and wrecked the other pillar supporting the
| layover life by opening up direct long range routes from NA
| to Asia that would have previously made sense on an A380 to
| NRT with fanouts to other destinations in Asia.
|
| The a380 is super cool, but it is not filling a need.
| dang wrote:
| Related:
|
| _Scripps Institution of Oceanography's FLIP vessel
| decommissioned after 60 years_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37072588 - Aug 2023 (51
| comments)
|
| _A ship that flips 90 degrees for precise scientific
| measurements_ - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15078094 -
| Aug 2017 (75 comments)
|
| _" Flip", the vertical ship, marks 50 years at sea_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4193185 - July 2012 (34
| comments)
|
| I felt sure there was a more recent one but I think I got it
| confused with this:
|
| _The Joides Resolution may have sailed its last expedition_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41785543 - Oct 2024 (3
| comments)
| CoastalCoder wrote:
| The story vacillates between "it" and "her" when referring to the
| ship.
|
| Is there some nautical tradition that prescribes that?
| dcminter wrote:
| "Bells, it may be noted, like ships and kittens, have a way of
| being female, whatever names they are given." -- Dorothy Sayers
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