[HN Gopher] The MIPS ThinkPad, kind of (2022)
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       The MIPS ThinkPad, kind of (2022)
        
       Author : rbanffy
       Score  : 70 points
       Date   : 2024-10-27 18:18 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | mistyvales wrote:
       | Related topic: Is there any way to save a laptop with horrible
       | plastic off gassing smell? I can't even be around it (Pentium 2
       | ThinkPad) for 10 mins without feeling nauseous
        
         | Palomides wrote:
         | might be leaky capacitors or batteries, in which case you'll
         | have to clean the goop off and replace them
        
         | chasil wrote:
         | When you say "save a laptop," do you mean extract the data or
         | revive the hardware?
         | 
         | If the latter, is it worth saving?
        
         | userbinator wrote:
         | All the volatiles from the plastic will have long evaporated on
         | something that old; as the other comment suggests, it's likely
         | to be capacitor electrolyte (a distinctive "fishy" smell) or
         | something else. Disassemble it and find where the smell is
         | coming from.
        
           | bluedino wrote:
           | Some of them have a weird smell from the adhesive that held
           | some things together. I'm thinking of G4 PowerBooks for one.
        
           | neilv wrote:
           | Also, if someone tried to "touch up" the paint/coating, it
           | could be that.
           | 
           | I recently bought a rare model variant that someone tried to
           | make look better, maybe with a black marker/paint that was a
           | solvent for the original paint/coating. It was pretty much
           | ruined for office use, unless you transplanted it to a
           | different shell, or you sandblasted off the sticky mess.
           | 
           | Also, the most common _Unfortunate eBay Trick_ in the last
           | few years seems to be to spray out the insides of electronics
           | with Febreeze and related products. (Source: majority of a
           | dozen used ThinkPads in the last few years, as well as a
           | 3090, and a high-end PSU.) One of the recent ThinkPads, I
           | think they might 've used insecticide spray or bug repellent
           | instead.
           | 
           | (ProTip: Never tell an eBay seller, "Don't worry, I already
           | left positive feedback, but can you please just tell me what
           | spray product that odor is from, so that I can use the right
           | method to clean it out?" You will never hear back from that
           | seller, like they have no incentive once positive feedback is
           | left, or they are exercising their right to remain silent on
           | the advice of their attorney.)
        
             | KeplerBoy wrote:
             | why would anyone use febreeze over regular canned air?
        
               | Groxx wrote:
               | you must be new to People.
               | 
               | don't worry, the shock wears off eventually.
        
               | neilv wrote:
               | Don't think I'm not screaming this question to the
               | heavens, between sobs, for approx. every other received
               | eBay package of used electronics.
               | 
               | I suspect it's a more common household item the seller
               | happens to have on hand, and/or they're trying to
               | mask/neutralize an odor (marijuana, tobacco, pets,
               | garage/basement odors, etc.).
               | 
               | For professional resellers _not_ operating out of their
               | home, they might still be trying to get rid of odors in
               | items they source, and maybe it 's a lot worse since
               | Covid WFH. (Also, I've heard of e-cyclers needing to use
               | precautions for roaches and bed bugs.)
        
               | genter wrote:
               | It's one of the eBay/Poshmark "tips" spreading on social
               | media to spray the items you're selling with Febreeze, so
               | they smell "nice" and "clean". I particularly love buying
               | shirts that are sprayed with it, because I definitely
               | want to have that against my skin.
        
               | LeifCarrotson wrote:
               | Because the Thinkpad (or similar) was used in an office
               | where people smoked indoors. I find this common with
               | parts imported from Indonesia, India, and other countries
               | with high rates of smoking.
        
           | dfox wrote:
           | ThinkPads of that era used some kind of rubbery coating
           | material, that over the time absorbed something from the
           | environment that caused it to became this weird goo. I would
           | not be that surprised that this weird icky goo also emits
           | some kind of vapors that some people find repulsive. I would
           | recommend just washing that off with 1:1 mix of acetone and
           | isopropyl alcohol (but well, if you find the smell coming
           | from the goo repulsive, get an FFP3 mask when you do that, as
           | the vapors coming from that mixture are in completely
           | different ball park)
        
           | kragen wrote:
           | That's true of any solvents initially trapped in the plastic,
           | but different plastics go through different degradation
           | processes, many of which create fresh volatiles. Celluloid
           | and [cellulose] acetate are especially notorious because
           | their degradation processes are autocatalytic and produce
           | fairly aggressive volatiles that catalyze not only further
           | degradation of the plastic but also of things like paper and
           | lungs. I don't think you'd identify that as a "plastic smell"
           | though.
           | 
           | Separately, plasticizers incorporated in many plastics ("new
           | car smell") often continue evaporating at smellable levels
           | for decades.
        
             | saltcured wrote:
             | Yes, I came here to say something similar but anecdotal.
             | I've seen multiple old electronics items where the plastic
             | parts become sticky and give off smells that remind me a
             | bit of vinegar, vinyl, and horrible pesticides.
             | 
             | I've sometimes wondered if it is just the chemicals
             | breaking down as you describe, or even something like
             | fungal metabolites.
        
         | gorgoiler wrote:
         | Not that it helps you but the vomit smell is the butyric acid
         | coming from the smooth, soft-touch plastic coating. I've seen
         | the same problem with Kindle bodies and power tool handles.
        
       | justsomehnguy wrote:
       | Somehow the comparison with Journada reminded me of Moto Lapdock
       | - designed as a mix of laptop and mobile world and utterly bad at
       | everything.
       | 
       | [0] https://www.slashgear.com/motorola-
       | lapdock-100-review-311918...
        
         | KeplerBoy wrote:
         | I miss those days of questionable innovation in the Smartphone
         | space.
        
       | ChrisArchitect wrote:
       | (2022)
       | 
       | Some discussion then:
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32969413
        
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