[HN Gopher] CHP seizes cars after Bay Bridge sideshow with Flock...
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CHP seizes cars after Bay Bridge sideshow with Flock Security data
Author : philip1209
Score : 9 points
Date : 2024-10-25 20:55 UTC (2 hours ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (www.sfchronicle.com)
| playingalong wrote:
| TIL. Apparently "sideshow" means blocking the whole traffic (one
| way) to have illegal street racing or burning tires, etc.
| ihumanable wrote:
| Sideshows are the dumbest thing. I live in an area where people
| do sideshows. Midnight, a dozen or so cars and then a hundred
| or more random people will show up and make a racket squealing
| around. More than once they've crashed and caused injuries and
| property damage.
|
| For what? Even if they succeed in not destroying their
| vehicles, other innocent people's property, or maim someone
| it's a loud pointless nothing. It's not a competition, it's
| just being loud and smells awful. I don't even get how it's a
| show, it's literally just cars doing donuts... how many times
| do you have to see that before it's boring, once? Who goes to
| these things
| potato3732842 wrote:
| It really rubs me the wrong way when the cops prioritize this
| sort of enforcement because it really lays bare that they don't
| care about harm reduction or protecting good people, they care
| about using their jackboot to stomp anyone who gives the bird to
| their authority. The fact that they're using the surveillance
| state to do it is just the cherry on top.
|
| I get that side shows are inconvenient an dangerous but the acute
| danger is mostly limited to people who consent to their exposure
| and it's not like there isn't a huge backlog of criminals who's
| crimes necessarily create victims in the bay area to be going
| after.
|
| Edit: While I agree on paper it should be a serious crime to DOS
| infrastructure I have a hard time taking it seriously when the
| same government agencies have no problem doing partial or full
| closures when it suits them.
|
| Additionally many people would happily condone the blocking of
| similar infrastructure by a few hundred person protest but a few
| hundred people watching a dozen cars do dumb things for
| entertainment is not treated the same even if the result is the
| same.
| baggy_trough wrote:
| Closing critical infrastructure such as the Bay Bridge is not
| merely inconvenient or dangerous. Lengthy prison terms are
| warranted.
| potato3732842 wrote:
| While I agree on paper it's a serious crime I have a hard
| time taking it seriously when the same government agencies
| have no problem doing partial or full closures when it suits
| them.
| millzlane wrote:
| I understand what you're saying, but if the government
| shuts down a road partially or even fully, it's usually not
| because they just want to be dicks.
| potato3732842 wrote:
| I agree, but it's just as much of a nasty surprise to
| everyone dependent upon that infrastructure and you don't
| really know or care what the source of the obstruction
| is, you just know that traffic isn't moving.
|
| At the end of the day it's just so hard for me to give a
| crap about a law and order type crime when there's god
| knows how many career petty criminals doing their thing
| in the same jurisdiction that aren't having these methods
| applied to them.
| brian-armstrong wrote:
| Your indifference is your problem. Don't try to foist it
| on other people.
| csdreamer7 wrote:
| That is very vague and one sided. If they shut it down for
| political reasons that can be, and have, been sued for it.
| They often shut it down because of a serious accident or
| some other kind of disaster. In southern California it
| would be mud slides.
| JumpCrisscross wrote:
| > _it really lays bare that they don 't care about harm
| reduction or protecting good people_
|
| Sorry, how is keeping critical infrastructure open from people
| doing vehicular stunts in close quarters not protecting people?
|
| > _side shows are inconvenient an dangerous but the danger is
| mostly limited to people who consent to their exposure_
|
| No? You're blocking traffic. You're blocking emergency
| vehicles. If an accident happens it could damage critical
| infrastucture.
|
| > _I have a hard time taking it seriously when the same
| government agencies have no problem doing partial or full
| closures when it suits them_
|
| They're not drag racing on the infrastructure! (Also, it's
| announced.)
|
| > _many people would happily condone the blocking of similar
| infrastructure by a few hundred person protest_
|
| These are immensely unpopular, in my experience tend to
| backfire and also result in arrests.
| gnabgib wrote:
| Related _Bay Area cops are getting a new Siri-type tool for
| fighting sideshows_ (24 points, 1 day ago, 52 comments) Strange
| timing
| millzlane wrote:
| Honestly this is one of the most passive ways to try to combat
| it but living in a city with shot spotter (Baltimore) I don't
| think it will be very effective. Police will still have to
| travel to the scene.
|
| Now get one of those spy planes in the air, and I think you'll
| shut that shit down quick.
| millzlane wrote:
| In high-school we met in the biggest and barren parking lots or
| industrial parks we could find and do it there. But in the last
| 10-15 years being driven away from private lots (Rightfully so),
| the only place people can do it (whenever they want), is large
| intersections and highways. I don't like or agree with it. But I
| suspect that is part of the reason sideshows have now culminated
| in streets being taken over. We still do money nights once in a
| while but it's a smaller group and it's not advertised on social
| media and we go to empty roads outside of the city or in the
| industry parks with newly paved roads into the place. The race
| track is good too but it's only open friday-monday for stuff like
| that (mostly drag racing) but not a lot of spinning tires or
| drifting.
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sideshow_(automobile_exhibitio...
| encoderer wrote:
| There is a sense of entitlement to petty crime in the Bay Area
| and I'm really happy to see progress here.
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