[HN Gopher] Meta suspends accounts tracking jets
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       Meta suspends accounts tracking jets
        
       Author : perihelions
       Score  : 21 points
       Date   : 2024-10-22 20:24 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.washingtonpost.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.washingtonpost.com)
        
       | WalterSobchak wrote:
       | https://archive.is/4G3Uj
        
       | bigfatkitten wrote:
       | But they allow CSAM to more or less go unchecked on Facebook.
       | What interesting priorities they have.
        
         | bediger4000 wrote:
         | Class solidarity with other billionaires and similarly rich
         | folk explains it easily.
        
         | loeg wrote:
         | They absolutely do not.
        
         | Sohcahtoa82 wrote:
         | How do you even come up with a conclusion like that?
        
       | amatecha wrote:
       | IMO, people who own and regularly fly in private jets are
       | definitely worthy of the scrutiny -- not to mention the flight
       | tracking data is public information.
       | 
       | That said, to me it's redundant: social platforms owned by
       | publicly-traded corporations are probably not worth enriching
       | with your free content anyways. Every login, every post, every
       | "favorite"/"like" is literally growing their profits.
        
         | aeternum wrote:
         | The tyranny of the majority. Doxing "me" should of course be
         | illegal but for certain groups of "others", it's just fine.
        
           | ForHackernews wrote:
           | Don't like it? Fly commercial.
        
             | aeternum wrote:
             | Neighbor sets up a camera on your driveway that posts to
             | socials whenever you come and go.
             | 
             | Don't like it? Don't own a house or car.
        
           | bsder wrote:
           | Rules for thee but not for me.
           | 
           | Zuck sure likes vacuuming up and aggregating everybody else's
           | information but gets cranky when someone starts doing the
           | same to him.
        
           | BadHumans wrote:
           | Others make billions selling every detail about your life. At
           | the very least it's hypocritical.
        
       | greatgib wrote:
       | Now private companies are deciding of their own extrajudicial
       | laws.
        
         | zeroonetwothree wrote:
         | This is nonsensical, private companies (like individuals) can
         | choose who they allow to use their products, just like they
         | always have.
        
           | fsflover wrote:
           | They shouldn't be able to if they're monopolies.
        
           | globular-toast wrote:
           | You should say _services_ , not products. People who make
           | products can't generally choose who gets to use them.
           | 
           | But, in any case, private companies should never be both
           | allowed to do what they like and allowed to be monopolies.
           | Since we don't break up monopolies any more, that means they
           | can't be allowed to do what they like.
        
         | SllX wrote:
         | Not extrajudicial laws. Terms of Service. Private companies
         | can't pass laws and Facebook is not an unrestricted hosting
         | provider. Never has been.
         | 
         | You can disagree with Facebook's _choice_ without disputing
         | their _ability_ to do something, in this case ban a bunch of
         | jet tracking accounts.
        
       | ryandrake wrote:
       | > Andy Stone, a spokesman for Meta, which also owns Facebook,
       | said the accounts were disabled for "violating our privacy
       | policy," that they posed a "risk of physical harm of
       | individuals," and that the decision followed the recommendation
       | of Meta's independent Oversight Board.
       | 
       | I love how they just spew vague nonsense, unchallenged. How
       | exactly does knowing that Celebrity X traveled from LA to NYC
       | yesterday "pose a risk of physical harm?" Show the cause and
       | effect, Andy Stone. Paint a believable picture that connects the
       | dots from this information to "harm." But, Andy Stone will never
       | have to actually do that or be specific because journalists just
       | publish corporate PR statements without pushback or probing.
        
         | aeternum wrote:
         | >How exactly does knowing that Celebrity X traveled from LA to
         | NYC yesterday "pose a risk of physical harm?"
         | 
         | It's not just "travelled" it's "travelling". You can track the
         | jet in realtime and if on a flight plan (which is most of the
         | time) you can determine their destination ahead of time along
         | with a highly accurate arrival time.
         | 
         | Paparazzi or more nefarious actors can then wait at the private
         | airport terminal. It's also not theoretical as Elon's ex-wife +
         | kids were attacked using this method and Paparazzi uses it
         | regularly.
         | 
         | The best argument against this is that Meta banning it doesn't
         | do much as people can still query FAA data directly.
        
           | mthoms wrote:
           | >It's also not theoretical as Elon's ex-wife + kids were
           | attacked using this method and Paparazzi uses it regularly.
           | 
           | There's no evidence that this incident involved the jet
           | tracking. It occurred in the neighbourhood where his ex-wife
           | _lives_.
           | 
           | https://archive.is/RWW4T
           | 
           | (Washington Post)
        
           | waffleiron wrote:
           | We should not longer have music festivals with this
           | argumentation (as a random example from millions). People
           | exactly know where and what time famous are at a specific
           | location. Sure it might not be "highly accurate timing" but
           | lets be honest a stalker doesn't care about a bunch of hours
           | more or less.
           | 
           | https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1842048755169690103
           | 
           | Oh no Musk revealed where he's going to be, someone could
           | wait for him there.
           | 
           | It's quite obvious that this is not about stalking as Elon
           | loves being seen/heard and doesn't shy away from the public.
        
       | 7e wrote:
       | https://www.businessinsider.com/grimes-tracked-elon-musk-pri...
       | is a hilarious related story.
       | 
       | It's trivial for the ultra rich to avoid this tracking: just use
       | jet shares.
        
       | cadamsau wrote:
       | Seems they could move the tracking to their own website, no?
        
         | GuB-42 wrote:
         | They are already in several places https://grndcntrl.net/links/
        
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