[HN Gopher] Bumblebee queens choose to hibernate in pesticide-co...
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       Bumblebee queens choose to hibernate in pesticide-contaminated soil
        
       Author : andai
       Score  : 57 points
       Date   : 2024-10-20 16:08 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (phys.org)
 (TXT) w3m dump (phys.org)
        
       | more_corn wrote:
       | Bees are plagued by mites and parasites. It could be that
       | pesticides lead to fewer attackers for the bumblebees.
        
         | vinnymac wrote:
         | Makes me wonder if it could be that some of the pesticides
         | attract the bumblebees, but not because of the absence of
         | parasites.
         | 
         | Presumably clean soil also has no mites or parasites in it.
        
           | jvanderbot wrote:
           | I don't think that's a safe assumption considering how many
           | mites live on skin, or how many ticks live in pristine
           | wilderness.
        
             | vinnymac wrote:
             | They actually mention this as an alternative explanation
             | other than missing fungi and parasites after rereading the
             | article:
             | 
             | > Another possibility is that the queens could have
             | developed an "acquired taste" for pesticides, as
             | researchers put it, due to prior exposure in their
             | environment.
        
               | metalman wrote:
               | the key might be that durring the torpor of hibernation
               | the bees are less vulnerable to toxins than there
               | parasites first question is do the parasites also
               | hibernate or do they continue to feed on the bees,while
               | the bees have crawled into a chemical spill and put
               | themselves into suspended animation for 3-4 months and
               | keep in mind that many insect species feed on toxic
               | plants to deter preditors, monarch butterflys and milk
               | weed is top of the list
        
           | andai wrote:
           | In one place I lived, there was some residue on the windows
           | from stickers the previous tenants children had put on the
           | windows.
           | 
           | There was a wasp nest on the roof and the wasps kept going
           | for the part of the window where the stickers had been. Must
           | have been something in there that attracted them.
        
         | metalman wrote:
         | many larger animals self medicate and apply external anti pest
         | substances I watch my horse roll and rub herself on bayberry
         | shrubs,of which there are many in her 10 acre paddock,the bay
         | berry is very aromatic and the seeds are so wax covered asnto
         | be a useable source of candle wax. The paddock is also full of
         | many many kinds of bees wasps and hornets,which I watch closely
         | to see what they eat and where they shelter,with the idea to
         | learn.how to create ideal habitat in areas with struggling bee
         | populations,got a few pointers from watching,but the tid bit
         | above is trurly facinating
        
           | ChrisMarshallNY wrote:
           | I understand that's why cats like catnip.
        
         | LorenPechtel wrote:
         | That was my first thought on reading the title.
         | 
         | Before we consider this a problem we should be looking at the
         | survival rate in contaminated vs uncontaminated soil. I
         | wouldn't be at all surprised of the queens are making the right
         | choice.
        
       | dfdz wrote:
       | About a decade ago, TIME Magazine published A World Without Bees
       | [1]
       | 
       | Since then, many people seem to think bees are on the edge of
       | extinction.
       | 
       | In fact, there are more bees now than ever before [2]
       | 
       | [1]
       | https://content.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,20130819,00.htm...
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       | [2] https://www.marketplace.org/2024/05/16/honeybee-
       | populations-...
        
         | PlunderBunny wrote:
         | I believe the problem was always with wild bees (versus
         | honeybees that were grown for commercial purposes).
        
         | jt2190 wrote:
         | Wild Bumblebees are not commercial honey bees.
        
         | guilhas wrote:
         | I used to run in a stretch of road on the outskirts, grass
         | fields on both sides, from a certain sunny week every year, you
         | could see quite a number of dead bees on the sidewalk, like 1
         | or 2 every 2 metres for 400 metres. Something that never
         | noticed anywhere else
        
           | krick wrote:
           | That's where you are supposed to see them, kind of, no big
           | surprise here. It may sound surprising to some, given that
           | bees travel by air, but they aren't good at crossing roads.
           | When returning home after collecting the nectar they fly low
           | and get literally hit by cars. So, apparently that place
           | where you were running had a colony of bees on one side of
           | the road, and their preferred food on the other, so a lot of
           | bees were commuting daily over that dangerous place.
        
       | pfdietz wrote:
       | Those error bars are pretty wide, so I wouldn't read too much
       | into this.
        
       | PepperdineG wrote:
       | It could be something like what happens with honey bees in
       | chimneys. Honey bees think they've found a great hollow tree home
       | with it even smelling like a tree due to creosote, but creosote
       | levels are so high that it makes sick bee colonies. With
       | bumblebees it might be something where bees are naturally
       | attracted to smell thinking it's a good thing without being able
       | to recognize there can be too much of a good thing, so will make
       | them sick.
        
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