[HN Gopher] Ribbonfarm Is Retiring
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Ribbonfarm Is Retiring
Author : Arubis
Score : 60 points
Date : 2024-10-19 19:06 UTC (3 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.ribbonfarm.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.ribbonfarm.com)
| blfr wrote:
| It seems to me that the blogosphere was not a ZIRP but rather a
| young Internet phenomenon. Which could exists, like usenet before
| it, when mere access to it was a filtering mechanism.
|
| Once you have seven billion people with virtually no access
| control, you can't have a public blogosphere, and groups retreat
| to the cozyweb.
|
| Either way, I enjoyed it while it lasted. Thanks for the Office
| series!
|
| https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-...
| bartread wrote:
| > Once you have seven billion people with virtually no access
| control, you can't have a public blogosphere, and groups
| retreat to the cozyweb.
|
| Why can't you? There's a logical leap in this statement I don't
| follow.
| rogers12 wrote:
| Those seven billion people aren't very good for the most
| part, and include a critical mass of spectacularly awful
| people. It turns out that public access forums calibrated for
| the small and self-selected community of mostly high quality
| internet pioneers aren't prepared to deal with 1000000x
| expansion of reachable audience. The Eternal September effect
| has been getting stronger ever since it's first been
| observed.
| add-sub-mul-div wrote:
| Yeah. That's why Twitter is useful as a kind of flypaper or
| quarantine. Let the passive stay and let the deliberate
| find new spaces that can be good the way Twitter once was.
| If Twitter was to go away, places like Bluesky would
| unavoidably get worse.
| whatshisface wrote:
| > _It turns out that public access forums calibrated for
| the small and self-selected community of mostly high
| quality internet pioneers aren 't prepared to deal with
| 1000000x expansion of reachable audience. _
|
| "Checklist for new theories purporting to prove that the
| social web is presently unworkable:"
|
| ...
|
| 26. The predicted conflicts still wouldn't be as bad as
| Usenet flamewars.
|
| 27. Your theory proves that Hackernews does not exist. <---
|
| 28. Audiences afraid of engaging with an unfamiliar
| interfaces weren't making websites in 1998 either.
|
| ...
| Nihilartikel wrote:
| Weeellll. Not every forum has a dang. Just saying.
| immibis wrote:
| Almost every one does.
| rogers12 wrote:
| This forum has been decreasing in quality since its
| inception, currently hovering at not-quite-reddit and
| that's with an organic audience of tech-adjacent posters.
| It would turn into a smoking hole in the ground if it
| somehow caught worldwide attention.
|
| You're a fish swimming in fragile water you fail to
| appreciate.
| ddulaney wrote:
| As the guidelines [0] state:
|
| > Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning
| into Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the
| hills.
|
| See the link for some examples, but I can also recommend
| looking at some old front pages from over the years and
| poking through the discussions. Unscientifically, it
| seems that quality is pretty similar to me.
|
| [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
| tuatoru wrote:
| Substack is doing OK, I think. It's the intellectual child of
| the blogosphere.
| immibis wrote:
| Substack (together with Medium) appears to _be_ the
| blogosphere. As usual, venture capitalists managed to take
| over an open protocol and turn it into a singular product.
| cheschire wrote:
| Having access to wikipedia on a phone everywhere you go is what
| killed the bar conversation. No longer did you have to compare
| notes and argue over beers to remember trivia.
|
| And in that same way, no longer do people have to ramble on into
| the aether in blog form to work through some shit. Now they can
| do that with ChatGPT and actually get responses to their thoughts
| in real time. And most of the time it's agreeable in tone.
|
| Tech continues to change the world.
|
| Maybe that isn't what is contributing to this particular blog
| dying, but I bet it's contributing to the larger community of
| blogs dying, which has probably created some inertia.
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