[HN Gopher] Show HN: A fair Product Hunt alternative
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Show HN: A fair Product Hunt alternative
Over the past few weeks, I've been developing Simple Lister, a
platform built to support indie product creators and give them a
fair shot. If you've launched on Product Hunt recently, you might
have noticed that only featured products get the spotlight, while
others struggle for visibility. Why Simple Lister? Simple Lister
aims to fix this by offering a more transparent and fair approach
for product launches. Here's how we do it: * No favoritism: Every
product gets an equal chance, and we don't play favorites. * Daily
Underdog Feature: Each day, we highlight one underdog product to
give them extra visibility and support. * No hidden fees: There
are no surprise costs. We have a simple submission fee, and that's
it--no pay-to-play or hidden charges. Also we have a long to do
list to do better. Why does this matter? After launching on
Product Hunt ourselves, we realized how tough it is for smaller
creators to get any attention unless they're featured. Simple
Lister is here to champion those indie products that deserve to be
seen by a wider audience. The platform is new and evolving, and
I'm constantly working to make it better. If you've got feedback or
questions, don't hesitate to reach out! Thanks for your support,
and I'd be happy if you submit your products!
Author : denizhdzh
Score : 78 points
Date : 2024-10-16 16:11 UTC (6 hours ago)
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| jemmyw wrote:
| Aren't you introducing a bias by having upvotes? Why do you need
| upvotes for this kind of listing? The number of people clicking
| is a bad metric imo, you're rewarding people who can organize
| getting votes. Other kinds of categorization would be more
| interesting. I'd like to see this kind of site without the
| popularity metric being forefront.
| denizhdzh wrote:
| We didn't set this up as a competition; today's products are
| always sorted randomly. We're also developing a new system
| where you won't be able to choose which products to view, we'll
| randomly select them for you, and you won't have access to see
| all launch products at once.
| gremlinsinc wrote:
| i'd like to see some sort of site like this with a way to base
| it off things like stripe earnings, actual subscribers via
| callback, or people who are actually using it, and actual
| reviews people who review are more likely to have used it
| unless they are paid (there's always a way to cheat the system
| i guess)... maybe other factors too like shares on twitter,
| etc...
| MentallyRetired wrote:
| I thought that was the lulu lemon logo at first glance.
| denizhdzh wrote:
| hahah yes, also it looks like PI number's sign
| sarora27 wrote:
| I get why you see the need for this product. However, as someone
| who launched on PH and got featured w/ a team of two and no
| financial backers, I think the point is that it should not be
| easy to get featured.
|
| PH does a great job of putting filters in place to ensure only
| the 'best' (whether by polish, value prop, or combo of both)
| products end up making it to the top. It really forces makers to
| put their absolute best foot forward when launching.
| denizhdzh wrote:
| I get your point, but the issue with PH's new algorithm is that
| it tends to feature only certain products, regardless of
| effort. Simple Lister isn't about making things easier, it's
| about giving everyone an equal chance to be seen, no matter
| their resources. It's about fairness, not lowering the bar.
| 6DM wrote:
| How is Zscaler an underdog of the day? This doesn't seem fair
| from the start.
|
| https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/ZS/key-statistics/
| denizhdzh wrote:
| Because of underdog feature is new, it is just a placeholder.
| Tomorrow, in 12.01am the first underdog will be appeared
| 6DM wrote:
| Oh, I'm surprised you didn't find a startup to list instead
| :)
| denizhdzh wrote:
| hahahahah
| runningmike wrote:
| Nice, but the thing that holds a sensible person back from
| joining is point 10 in the ToS "10. Changes to the Terms
|
| - We reserve the right to modify these Terms at any time. Any
| changes will be effective immediately upon posting the revised
| Terms. Your continued use of Simple Lister following any changes
| constitutes acceptance of the new Terms."
| denizhdzh wrote:
| Thanks for feedback, I will think about it
| mminer237 wrote:
| That's very standard in ToS, and I would think a no-brainer.
| How could one use a site without accepting its terms of
| service? Notably Hacker News has almost that exact same
| language with a 14-day notice period. YouTube, Twitter,
| Wordpress.com, etc. all have similar language. What is your
| problem with it?
| thimabi wrote:
| I mean, they have the right to be opposed to this practice
| even though it is standard, right?
|
| I myself am opposed to it too, and I believe the more people
| stand up to it, the merrier.
| serial_dev wrote:
| > No favoritism: Every product gets an equal chance, and we don't
| play favorites.
|
| > Daily Underdog Feature: Each day, we highlight one underdog
| product to give them extra visibility and support.
|
| Aren't these contradictory statements?
| denizhdzh wrote:
| Nope :) The underdog project is selected from projects with
| fewer than a certain number of upvotes. The system filters them
| and randomly picks one each day.
| treefarmer wrote:
| But then you have a paid "featured" tier, along with a
| leaderboard showing the most upvoted ones. How is this
| different from ProductHunt in the end? Isn't it still pay to
| win?
| denizhdzh wrote:
| I understand your concern, but our paid tier simply boosts
| visibility, not rankings. It's not "pay to win." The
| underdog feature gives lesser-known projects a fair shot,
| chosen randomly from those with fewer upvotes. This ensures
| that every product, regardless of budget, has a chance to
| shine without favoritism. also, we have a plan to change
| all voting system for the future too.
| andrewstuart wrote:
| I spent 15 minute filling in the product submit form and when I
| hit submit it said "please refresh the page" and of course when I
| did so everything I had entered was gone.
|
| Also, my product does not take 150 characters to describe.
| denizhdzh wrote:
| Sorry about that :( I don't know the cause but I will check it!
| The 150-character limit is in place to help users searching for
| products on the site understand them better.
| hluska wrote:
| This is a good idea - I'm going to bookmark it for the next time
| I launch something and I wish you the best. Good job reaching
| launch.
| denizhdzh wrote:
| Thank you for your kind wishes, see you at the launch!
| punkpeye wrote:
| Submitted Glama. Excited to participate.
| denizhdzh wrote:
| Thanks! Good luck for your launch :)
| d883kd8 wrote:
| Looks great! I have submitted my startup https://chattysun.com
| denizhdzh wrote:
| Good luck with your launch!
| flomo wrote:
| Please use regular hyperlinks so I can open in a new tab. (The
| visit button should probably open a new tab by default so users
| aren't taken away from your site.)
| denizhdzh wrote:
| Got it! Thankss
| shwouchk wrote:
| If you care for an opposing opinion, i find this obnoxious. I
| can easily middle click/modifier+click your links to open in
| a new tab if i want to and this is way les annoying than
| going back to previous tab to close it.
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