[HN Gopher] All possible plots by major authors (2020)
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       All possible plots by major authors (2020)
        
       Author : ohjeez
       Score  : 107 points
       Date   : 2024-10-15 19:06 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | kreyenborgi wrote:
       | All possible trees by major forests
        
       | jkaptur wrote:
       | Every New Yorker short fiction: our protagonist, a slightly
       | dislikable person, suffers from a medium-high amount of ennui.
        
       | rKarpinski wrote:
       | "thomas hardy
       | 
       | Lies, lies, misery, lies, suicide, rape, and corn prices."
       | 
       | So true
        
       | wwilim wrote:
       | Stephen King: you'll know better than to FAFO after I tell you
       | what happened in Maine a few decades ago.
        
         | tptacek wrote:
         | To do King justice you have to capture some kind of on-the-nose
         | allegory (alcoholism, childhood trauma, the existential dread
         | of one's musical tastes being classifiable as dad-rock, the
         | Cold War), and it can't be about the corruption and decline of
         | small-town New England, which is everpresent. Yog-Sothoth
         | should make an appearance.
        
       | jl6 wrote:
       | Hacker News: Apple launches data center on a stick, and boy does
       | Elon Musk have an opinion about that (14879 comments)
        
         | ryandrake wrote:
         | ...re-written in Rust.
        
           | bryanrasmussen wrote:
           | It would have better through-put if it were rewritten in
           | Elixir, I would do it in Erlang but I find the syntax less
           | appealing.
        
             | jebarker wrote:
             | It's OK though, since throughput considerations don't
             | matter as hardware is so fast now and your boss just wants
             | you to get the thing shipped
        
               | globalise83 wrote:
               | So long as it doesn't have leaky abstractions, it passes
               | muster.
        
       | fallinditch wrote:
       | Albert Camus: Alone and isolated you grapple with the absurdities
       | of existence. And who the f*k are you?
        
       | HanClinto wrote:
       | Michael Crichton: Humanity employs raw hubris and technological
       | advancement for a close-encounter with non-humanity. Chaos
       | ensues.
        
         | HanClinto wrote:
         | The above was written by hand. As an experiment, I asked Claude
         | to generate a few dozen more. Most weren't great. Here are the
         | highlights:
         | 
         | Michael Crichton:
         | 
         | You're a brilliant scientist who's just created something that
         | will revolutionize the world. Congratulations! It's now trying
         | to eat you.
         | 
         | Michael Crichton:
         | 
         | You've stumbled upon a conspiracy involving [insert scientific
         | field]. Now you're being chased by [insert government agency]
         | while trying to explain complex scientific concepts to the
         | reader.
         | 
         | Suzanne Collins:
         | 
         | You must choose between two brooding love interests while
         | simultaneously overthrowing a totalitarian regime. Priorities!
         | 
         | Stephen King:
         | 
         | Welcome to small-town Maine, where the biggest threat isn't the
         | weather, it's the [insert supernatural horror]. Don't worry, a
         | writer will save the day.
         | 
         | Neil Gaiman:
         | 
         | Mythology crashes into modern life. You're either a god who's
         | fallen on hard times or a regular person about to have a very
         | weird Wednesday.
         | 
         | Margaret Atwood:
         | 
         | Society has taken a slight turn for the worse. Women are now
         | [insert dystopian scenario]. This is definitely not a
         | commentary on current events.
         | 
         | And perhaps my favorite:
         | 
         | George Orwell:
         | 
         | Big Brother is watching you. So is your toaster. And your pet.
         | Trust no one, especially not the pigs.
         | 
         | Out of 30 generations, there were a few more that made me
         | smile, but these were the main ones I enjoyed. Something I've
         | noticed with statistical content generation is that it has a
         | difficult time not being too "on the nose" -- almost like next-
         | token-prediction is making it want to rush and get to the
         | punchline a little too quickly. It has a hard time being
         | subtle, and too often it felt like it was just a glib little
         | summary of a story, rather than a sardonic take-a-step-back-
         | and-look-at-the-big-picture sort of approach.
         | 
         | No major revelations, but just barely interesting enough to
         | warrant commenting here. If there were a Dull Men's Club
         | version of Hacker News, I would have posted this there.
        
       | PlunderBunny wrote:
       | A link to "All Possible Plots II" [0] would have been better,
       | because it includes everything in "All Possible Plots I"
       | 
       | [0] https://www.the-fence.com/all-possible-plots-ii/
        
         | HanClinto wrote:
         | Depending on the referrer URL, you may or may not be hit with a
         | paywall.
         | 
         | https://archive.ph/h2y0R
        
       | PlunderBunny wrote:
       | Someone do Michael Moorcock.
        
         | bryanrasmussen wrote:
         | due to my being saddled with the British National debt it turns
         | out that a loner of a dying race must set out on a morally
         | ambiguous journey through all reality, killing everyone he
         | meets except for a thinly disguised Sancho Panza - Volumes 1
         | through 119.
        
           | bryanrasmussen wrote:
           | due to my having accidentally stolen the brown acid from Alan
           | Moore, who you probably suspected I might actually be for
           | some years, in Volume 120 loner from a dying race meets other
           | loners from other dying races in future and merges into 1000
           | limbed kaiju and is forced to eat the soul of Sancha Panza.
           | 
           | on edit: due to having eaten the brown acid I stole I forgot
           | how to spell words like eldritch and Alan and have edited one
           | of them in a new edition of my previous work to undo the typo
           | introduced in the acid-addled version.
        
             | bryanrasmussen wrote:
             | due to coming down from previous trip I realized that
             | racism has infected fantasy like a virus, and the only way
             | forward is poorly disguised Gormenghast pastiche.
             | 
             | on edit: thinly veiled threat to write 500 more comments on
             | this issue in the next few months.
        
               | bryanrasmussen wrote:
               | due to my having survived the last 3 or 5000 comments,
               | this part is somewhat hazy, I would just like to say that
               | China Mieville is my legacy and he thinks of me as his
               | literary father, which I am in a way, although I am a
               | heroic loner from a forgotten race doomed to wander
               | through HN writing comments for all eternity until I can
               | finally destroy the Evil God who cursed me to do so and
               | cash my royalty checks.
               | 
               | on edit: or perhaps I have cashed these royalty checks
               | here, in the end times, and am having lovely sex times
               | with erotically gender strange creatrixii - a word like
               | any other. While the world dissolves into a tangerine ice
               | cream created by the whim of the last human minds to
               | develop a plot point.
        
               | bryanrasmussen wrote:
               | OK, but what if it turns out - in the end of all this -
               | I'm actually Jesus! huh!? Pretty cool right! Those drugs
               | were so freaking worth it!! Now to pay off the mortgage I
               | took out to afford the drugs!
               | 
               | on edit: I would like to detour into a very long series
               | of comments in the following subtree of this site as to
               | why Grant Morrison sucks and has ripped me off and is no
               | good.
        
               | bryanrasmussen wrote:
               | But first - a series of congratulatory online interviews
               | between myself and various creators who do appreciate me
               | and that I, in turn, appreciate.
        
               | I_complete_me wrote:
               | I have no idea what you're doing here but I am impressed
               | enough to have got to the end. (No meta here, I assure
               | you.)
        
             | egypturnash wrote:
             | _clearly_ you have read a significant portion of the Saga
             | of the Eternal Champion.
        
       | ethbr1 wrote:
       | >> _Dan Brown -- Award-winning author Dan Brown has written a
       | complicated role for you with his expensive pen. You are a
       | humanities professor at an Ivy League university, but also,
       | somehow, in mortal peril. Your love interest is picturesque but
       | ill-mannered and French. This is somehow worth several million
       | dollars._
       | 
       | Kafka seems low-effort though. I humbly substitute:
       | 
       | You have inside you an extraordinary writer but are instead
       | employed at the postal service, where you spend the rest of your
       | days watching your first manuscript submission mistakenly
       | misrouted back across your desk.
        
         | nfw2 wrote:
         | You are a humanities professor at an Ivy League university, but
         | also, somehow, in mortal peril. Your love interest is
         | picturesque but ill-mannered...
         | 
         | This is also true of Indiana Jones, which everyone likes.
        
           | bryanrasmussen wrote:
           | Indiana Jones taught at Marshall College, I hardly think that
           | qualifies as Ivy League. What a disappointment to his father
           | that guy was.
        
         | w-m wrote:
         | Don't make fun of renowned author Dan Brown!
         | 
         | > Renowned author Dan Brown woke up in his luxurious four-
         | poster bed in his expensive $10 million house - and immediately
         | he felt angry. Most people would have thought that the 48-year-
         | old man had no reason to be angry. After all, the famous writer
         | had a new book coming out. But that was the problem. A new book
         | meant an inevitable attack on the rich novelist by the wealthy
         | wordsmith's fiercest foes. The critics.
         | 
         | > Renowned author Dan Brown hated the critics. Ever since he
         | had become one of the world's top renowned authors they had
         | made fun of him. They had mocked bestselling book The Da Vinci
         | Code, successful novel Digital Fortress, popular tome Deception
         | Point, money-spinning volume Angels & Demons and chart-topping
         | work of narrative fiction The Lost Symbol.
         | 
         | > The critics said his writing was clumsy, ungrammatical,
         | repetitive and repetitive. They said it was full of unnecessary
         | tautology. They said his prose was swamped in a sea of mixed
         | metaphors...
         | 
         | https://onehundredpages.wordpress.com/2013/06/12/dont-make-f...
        
           | switch007 wrote:
           | Oh man this made me laugh out loud wheezing. Thank you!
           | 
           | > He reached for the telephone using one of his two hands
           | 
           | lol
        
           | farmeroy wrote:
           | I clicked on this link with one of my two index fingers and
           | felt the joy of a person feeling enjoyment
        
       | vharuck wrote:
       | Terry Pratchett: A visionary on the Discworld invents something
       | vaguely like a modern object or industry. That invention enslaves
       | the visionary and must be stopped by a crotchety old person who
       | hates change.
        
       | w-m wrote:
       | Or mix together your own plot, by combining any of the tropes in
       | the "Periodic Table of Storytelling":
       | https://jamesharris.design/periodic/
        
       | ChocMontePy wrote:
       | I need an "Every possible comment by Hacker News users"
        
         | thechao wrote:
         | Having just found out about topic X, and thought about it for
         | 30 seconds, I have strong advice for the world's expert about
         | an edge case they forgot for solutions to topic X.
        
           | sseagull wrote:
           | Man Feels Like He Gets Gist Of Enlightenment After First Few
           | Minutes Of Hearing Zen Monk Talk
           | 
           | https://theonion.com/man-feels-like-he-gets-gist-of-
           | enlighte...
        
         | duneisagoodbook wrote:
         | I didn't read the article, but--
        
         | gherkinnn wrote:
         | http://n-gate.com/hackernews/
        
           | nojs wrote:
           | I am very disappointed this stopped
        
       | wanderer2323 wrote:
       | Wodehouse: Titanic forces beyond your control such as scheming
       | aunts, accidental engagements, and inability to express your
       | feelings threaten to irrevocably ruin your life forever. It'll
       | take a Machiavellian mastermind and a series of unlikely
       | coincidences to extricate you from this predicament but you'll
       | have to pay a price.
       | 
       | They really didn't do Wodehouse justice in the OP
        
         | asimovfan wrote:
         | how could they.. its impossible
        
       | dmd wrote:
       | See also, PLOTTO, all possible plots by ALL authors:
       | 
       | 1) https://garykac.github.io/plotto/plotto-mf.html
       | 
       | 2) https://www.npr.org/2012/02/19/146941343/plotto-an-
       | algebra-b...
        
       | riwsky wrote:
       | #All possible codebases by major programmers
       | 
       | Linus Torvalds: you take a week-long swing at a problem you find
       | annoying, fascinating, or both. The result enjoys staggering
       | worldwide success in the ensuing decades, despite being clearly
       | outclassed by some alternative from the GNU project that, pinky
       | promise, is coming out any day now.
       | 
       | Grace Hopper: BEGIN a framework that powers critical government
       | functions, AND has secretly saved America from mass destruction
       | time and again, only to be dunked on by Reddit for trivial
       | matters of syntax END.
       | 
       | John Carmack: Doom, but better-looking.
       | 
       | Brendan Eich: you take a week-long swing at a problem your
       | employer finds commercially compelling. The result enjoys
       | staggering worldwide success in the ensuing decades, despite
       | being clearly outclassed by the prior art it was supposed to
       | build on.
        
         | mp05 wrote:
         | > Brendan Eich: you take a week-long swing at a problem your
         | employer finds commercially compelling. The result enjoys
         | staggering worldwide success in the ensuing decades, despite
         | being clearly outclassed by the prior art it was supposed to
         | build on.
         | 
         | Pretty brilliant, right? Right?
        
           | riwsky wrote:
           | Please forgive my JavaScript joke: it's really just a poorly-
           | written series of callbacks.
        
           | grotorea wrote:
           | I would like to quote the creator of Dogecoin:
           | 
           | > In reply to that, Mr Markus was asked whether he had
           | considered energy usage when creating the cryptocurrency.
           | 
           | > "i made doge in like 2 hours i didn't consider anything,"
           | he wrote.
        
         | ashton314 wrote:
         | Fabrice Bellard: A problem with several competing solutions
         | catches your fancy. Within a week you have a gleaming, state-
         | of-the-art solution that is flexible, reliable, and extensible
         | --all written in pure, efficient C. Everyone begins to build on
         | your work.
         | 
         | Donald Knuth: While writing your magnum opus, a minor
         | irritation arises. You invent a new subfield of computing and
         | spend two years developing a highly idiosyncratic language and
         | tool system.\footnote{And several new typefaces!} Your
         | irritation dissipates and you go back to work with your
         | writing. Generations of academics curse your creation but have
         | nothing better to work with. They wonder if they can get
         | Fabrice Bellard to take a crack at it...
        
       | jfvinueza wrote:
       | Funny, thanks. This is another very fun one in the same spirit:
       | 
       | https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/what-your-favorite-sad-d...
        
       | russellbeattie wrote:
       | What does it say about me that I've only actually read 14 of the
       | 56 authors in the second list [1] _as an adult_ (i.e. by choice)?
       | I know _of_ quite a few, but haven 't read most of them.
       | 
       | Here's my list (++ indicates more than 1):
       | Fitzgerald       Hemingway ++       Shakespeare ++       Christie
       | ++       Brown ++       Dickens       McCarthy ++       Wodehouse
       | ++       Steinbeck ++       Stoppard       Kafka       Conan
       | Doyle ++       Seuss (of course) ++       Lee
       | 
       | A missing classic author is Robert Louis Stevenson - all his
       | books are amazing, even 150 year later.
       | 
       | If you've read more than one Dickens novel, you have my deepest
       | respect.
       | 
       | 1. https://www.the-fence.com/all-possible-plots-ii/
        
         | chadcmulligan wrote:
         | A friend of mine has been reading Ulysses since 2022, I've
         | stopped asking him about it.
        
         | crtified wrote:
         | Humanity would be a pretty bland experience if everybody
         | universally read the same toplist of influences. Some may
         | aspire to study The Classics at Oxford, but to me that sounds
         | like a nightmare of deprivation.
         | 
         | Accordingly I see your balanced, partial foray into those
         | classics as a positive. It shows you're an individual bespoke
         | personality with broader influences. _We_ won 't know which of
         | the modern works we read are future classics - that'll come in
         | hundreds of years.
        
       | motohagiography wrote:
       | I miss literary fiction but with age my weakness for a point has
       | become an all consuming vice.
        
       | teraflop wrote:
       | Reminds me of "Book-A-Minute"
       | (http://www.rinkworks.com/bookaminute/) from yesteryear.
       | 
       | Most of the entries are for specific books, but there are also
       | some authors mentioned, e.g. "The Collected Works of Dean
       | Koontz": http://www.rinkworks.com/bookaminute/b/koontz.shtml
        
         | Vedor wrote:
         | "A Scanner Darkly" entry [0] is my favorite so far. Somehow,
         | it's wildly accurate.
         | 
         | [0] - http://www.rinkworks.com/bookaminute/b/dick.scanner.shtml
        
         | karaterobot wrote:
         | Whoooa, what a blast from the past. I loved that site, but I
         | bet I haven't been there in 15 years. It seems their most
         | recent update was just last week.
        
       | ashton314 wrote:
       | Brandon Sanderson: scrappy protagonist discovers that they have
       | magical powers, despite struggling from crushing depression
       | and/or trauma. This annoying guy named Hoid smirks at everyone.
       | The next weekend they accidentally trigger the end of the world,
       | which they prevent in the nick of time by becoming a god.
        
       | Lance_ET_Compte wrote:
       | LOL!
        
       | karaterobot wrote:
       | They could have had an entry for McSweeney's that just said "the
       | text of this article".
        
       | nfw2 wrote:
       | To summarize Dan Brown books by describing the characters
       | fundamentally misunderstands them. The characters are about as
       | important as the characters in a porno.
       | 
       | The point of a Dan Brown book is to chart the stupidest possible
       | path through history and pop science, and he's uniquely capable
       | of this.
        
       | farmeroy wrote:
       | I want an author who's work is completely unidentifiable from one
       | release to the next. Or to find a dozen authors who have
       | inconceivably and independently created identical manuscripts.
       | Surely if there were a library with all possible books, we would
       | find one of those two things...
        
         | dsr_ wrote:
         | Not exactly, but Walter Jon Williams keeps switching genres
         | successfully:
         | 
         | - Napoleonic sea fighting
         | 
         | - early cyberpunk (Hardwired)
         | 
         | - middle cyberpunk around the Solar System (Voice of the
         | Whirlwind)
         | 
         | - late cyberpunk post-scarcity space opera(Aristoi)
         | 
         | - transhuman space opera (Implied Spaces)
         | 
         | - New Mexican police procedural / thriller (Days of Atonement)
         | 
         | - near future thrillers (This Is Not A Game and sequelae)
         | 
         | - fantasy of city infrastructure (Metropolitan and City on
         | Fire)
         | 
         | - comedy of manners (the Drake Maijstral trilogy)
         | 
         | - Fall of the Space Roman Empire (Dread Empire's Fall series)
         | 
         | - Medieval fantasy (Quillifer and sequelae)
         | 
         | and a Giant Disaster novel, a Zelaznyesque SF mystery, and a
         | Star Wars work-for-hire.
         | 
         | There's enough there for five separate authors to make marks on
         | the field.
        
         | npilk wrote:
         | Sounds like you'd be interested in the short stories of Jorge
         | Luis Borges - your comment brings Pierre Menard to mind.
        
       | netcoyote wrote:
       | William Gibson: You are an adequate but drug-addled hacker,
       | navigating dangerous, high-tech worlds where blurred realities,
       | conspiracies, and corporate power struggles force you to uncover
       | hidden truths, survive against powerful forces, and ultimately
       | question the nature of identity, technology, and control.
       | 
       | Neal Stephenson: You are a small cog in a historical epic leading
       | to a far-flung speculative future, where you grapple with the
       | complexities of technology, cryptography, and philosophy, as well
       | as incidentally discovering the best way to eat Captain Crunch
       | cereal.
        
       | tzs wrote:
       | Jack Woodford, a decent pulp writer in the first half of the 20th
       | century who also wrote several books on writing and on how the
       | publishing industry works, including "Trial and Error" in 1933
       | which Robert Heinlein and Ray Bradbury both cited as a major
       | influence in getting their writing careers started, had a nice
       | description of how to plot:
       | 
       | > Boy meets girl; girl gets boy into pickle; boy gets pickle into
       | girl
        
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