[HN Gopher] A Georgist's Guerilla Gardening Guide
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A Georgist's Guerilla Gardening Guide
Author : surprisetalk
Score : 47 points
Date : 2024-10-09 15:48 UTC (2 days ago)
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| bryanrasmussen wrote:
| hmm, one of those old fashioned web sites, nice to see they still
| exist.
|
| I have always wanted to do something like this actually, hampered
| only by the fact that I suck at gardening.
| hosh wrote:
| You could partner with someone who doesn't suck and distribute
| seed bombs.
| nothercastle wrote:
| They don't work. Only weeds grow out of them
| thatcat wrote:
| Focus on researching what grows naturally in your environment
| and find a good source of those seeds. This will lead you to
| learning about your soil, the sun per day in the area,
| localized temp and humidity, etc before selecting the plants
| and using that info in your search for more plants that would
| be viable. Then the plants will grow themselves and you won't
| need to be good at corrective measures that require a lot more
| work.
| matthoiland wrote:
| > If you own dead/brown/unoccupied land, you're an asshole.
|
| Well said.
|
| But yes, we should all be re-reading Progress and Poverty (1879),
| as our world shares many similarities.
| hinkley wrote:
| The first rule of breaking the law is never break 2 laws at the
| same time.
|
| If you're going to "litter" plants onto someone else's property,
| your reasoning for what plants to plant needs to be immaculate.
|
| That doesn't have to be a big complicated thing. Plant local
| wildflowers, from low weed content seed sources. Plant common
| imported plants like you find at the local nursery. Don't pick
| random shit that's invasive, or has poor nutrition that starves
| local insects. Don't jump fences, think really hard about if you
| want to be taking things away like trash rather than relocating
| it on the property.
| hinkley wrote:
| Ron Finley, who is mentioned in the article, sells shirts that
| say, "Plant some shit." But I don't like the art direction on the
| current design and am forever kicking myself for not buying one
| of the originals.
| mtalantikite wrote:
| Somewhat off topic, but if you live in NYC you've probably
| noticed the "School of Practical Philosophy" advertisements in
| the subway. They always gave off cult vibes to me and I ignored
| them, but one day I finally decided to lookup what they're about.
| To my surprise, they started out as a Georgist reading group (!)
| that meandered into Gurdjieff and then Advaita Vedanta (via
| Maharishi's TM and his followers).
|
| I really was not expecting to read Henry George's name when I
| opened that wikipedia article:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_of_Philosophy_and_Econo...
| blackeyeblitzar wrote:
| Ok but private property is private property. This is just trying
| to normalize vandalism and criminality. "I don't like it so I'll
| do whatever I want and violate others."
| fiala__ wrote:
| Private property is whatever we collectively decide it is. We
| can only build infrastructure such as railways and highways
| because we collectively decided those are okay to build on
| private property. We can do the same with anything we consider
| essential for the common good.
| stronglikedan wrote:
| sounds a little too much like communism for my liking :shrug:
|
| private property should be whatever the owner decides it is
| blackeyeblitzar wrote:
| Yes, we can decide it collectively, through the political
| process. But individuals should not be allowed to just do
| whatever they want in violation of other individuals. If I
| think your tree isn't great, is it okay if I were to come
| chop it down? Where does that line of thinking end?
| HelloMcFly wrote:
| If this is the future of vandalism and criminality, I say we
| let it be normalized yesterday. Not much of a "violation of
| others" to put some planters down in a lots that's had nothing
| but litter blowing through it for 2+ years, and a "violation"
| that's quite easily reconciled if the owner wants to remediate
| it.
|
| I find it just as much of a violation - a much more egregious
| violation - to let land go to shit in areas where people live,
| unmanaged and blighted, with no regard for the people that
| actually inhabit that space. No, I'm not making a legal
| argument in a court of law here.
| blackeyeblitzar wrote:
| I think the right way to do it is to first advocate for a
| change in the law, and not just violate someone's private
| property.
| nothercastle wrote:
| Property is only private if the government chooses to Defend
| your ownership and use or lack there of through force. There
| are many cases where people thought they owned land only for
| someone more powerful or influential to take it away
| mdelias wrote:
| "all the bitcoin land"
|
| "Bitcoin is Land" (2013) - 8 points
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7494583
| Hammershaft wrote:
| The downtown of my relatively wealthy Canadian city is surrounded
| by vacant parking lots & run down slums owned by real estate
| speculators. We are still living with the problems that Henry
| George wrote about.
|
| https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/your-book-review-progress-a...
| unbalancedevh wrote:
| > 7. ... Remember that squatting is legal.
|
| Not in Michigan it isn't. It's a criminal offense, punishable by
| fines and jail time.
| keybored wrote:
| Georgism fans feels like people who discovered socialism via
| Wikipedia.
| alxmng wrote:
| There's plenty of available gardening space in unused yards. Ask
| your neighbors if you can garden their unused yard in exchange
| for them getting a cut of the produce or flowers.
| tolerance wrote:
| I suspect that anyone who advocates for what this page advises is
| either functioning from a sort of victimhood or resentment; or so
| privileged as to have never comprehended the likelihood of a
| consequence; or is so spiritually emancipated that their sense of
| morality and ethics has become subjected to whatever appeals to
| their desire to subvert an unjust authority, in spite of the fact
| that the outcome is that if they somehow achieve power
| themselves, they will soon become an unjust authority in their
| own right.
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