[HN Gopher] Cards Against Humanity Launches a Super Pac to Match...
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Cards Against Humanity Launches a Super Pac to Match Elon Musk's
Super Pac
Author : bun_at_work
Score : 32 points
Date : 2024-10-09 21:20 UTC (1 hours ago)
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| jqpabc123 wrote:
| There is really any mystery as to why half the voters don't vote?
|
| Unless you live in one of the half dozen "swing states", your
| vote is just a symbolic gesture with little chance of impacting
| the overall outcome.
| JellyBeanThief wrote:
| All that means is that we don't have a one-person one-vote
| system. Some people's votes matter more than others. What we
| have is a case of civil inequality.
|
| If we build a system where everyone's votes count the same
| (radical and extreme idea, I know), then each person will have
| the same fundamental incentive to vote.
| Zigurd wrote:
| Direct election of the US president would be an improvement.
| Expanding the House of Representatives as originally
| formulated, or similarly, would help. Making the Senate
| reflect the population better by dividing populous states,
| and/or a statehood option for Puerto Rico and DC would help.
| Striking down gerrymanders would help.
|
| More contested down-ballot races would help. No excuse for
| the parties to not have strong organization and candidate
| recruitment at that level. No changes to laws needed for
| this.
| renewiltord wrote:
| Well, it's a federation of states so you can't quite do that
| unless you abandon that conceit.
| kibwen wrote:
| No, devolving powers to the states is what makes it a
| federation. Having a state-representative legislative
| chamber makes it a federation. Electing a federal president
| via popular vote does not indicate defederation any more
| than the existence of the House of Representatives does.
| kej wrote:
| There is more on your ballot than the president, you know.
| gsk22 wrote:
| The presidency is not the only election on the ballot.
|
| And if you ask people who don't vote why not, very few of them
| are going to mention the electoral college. I would wager most
| people who don't vote couldn't even explain what the electoral
| college is.
| blacksmith_tb wrote:
| Probably they couldn't explain it, but many of them will have
| taken to heart the idea that "my vote doesn't matter". Which
| is especially sad, since like you say there are potentially
| all kinds of local and regional races and ballot measures
| their vote could in fact have impacted.
| alecco wrote:
| It's interesting how Occupy Wall Street was ridiculed by the
| press. I think they were onto something even though I don't
| agree with almost everything else they also believed in.
| rmbyrro wrote:
| Why would an institution or group of people call itself cards
| _against_ humanity?
| jongjong wrote:
| It's perfectly aligned with leftist ideology which can be
| summarized as:
|
| 1. Enrich yourself as much as possible through political means,
| without regard for value creation or moral constraints.
|
| 2. Then justify it to yourself as a kind of altruism; the
| altruistic act of destroying humanity. Because humanity is
| evil. Also, climate change.
|
| It boggles the mind that they don't see that they're the
| problem. They're probably the most significant part of what's
| wrong with humanity. In reality, they don't hate humanity; they
| hate themselves but they don't want to accept that so, instead,
| they dilute their self-loathing by targeting a bigger group
| which is a superset of their own group.
|
| It also boggles the mind that they simultaneously believe that
| humanity is evil and untrustworthy and yet somehow can be
| trusted with 'the science' about literally everything...
|
| Now I don't understand how they make the logical leap from
| hating humanity to somehow thinking that they're the good guys
| within that superset. The one thing I've noticed is that they
| tend to focus on superficial attributes. They take a few of the
| positive superficial moral qualities that they actually do
| have, convert them into social-action catchphrases, and focus
| on those; ignoring all the greater evils that they're
| unleashing.
| orwin wrote:
| Or you know, you can google it and find it's a play on word
| with "crimes against humanity" because a lot of the
| combination result on really dark or politically incorrect
| humor.
| unsnap_biceps wrote:
| I think you're reading way too much into a satirical card
| game dude...
| marssaxman wrote:
| You are reading _way_ too much into the tongue-in-cheek name
| of a satirical card game.
| mikestew wrote:
| You _might_ want to go look it up before making a bunch of
| assumptions based only on the name. Sure, you might feel a
| bit silly after, but hopefully you can have a good laugh over
| it.
| orwin wrote:
| It's a game. the rules are here:
| https://s3.amazonaws.com/cah/CAH_Rules.pdf I'm personally
| playing the "god is dead" rule with my friends. I don't care
| about the US elections but this is a really fine game.
|
| [edit] i know it's bad etiquette to comment on votes, but
| parent's question seems legitimate and can have usefull
| answers, it doesn't deserve downvotes imho.
| orwin wrote:
| I don't really care about US elections in general, but your rules
| are broken. Here are interesting bits:
|
| How do you know who didn't vote?
|
| We formed a Super PAC and bought the personal voting records of
| every American citizen from a data broker we found on the
| internet. It's pretty fucked up.
|
| How do you know who's "blue leaning"?
|
| We got your partisan lean from the same data broker who sold us
| your voting history. You wouldn't believe how easy it was for us
| to get this stuff. So fucked up!
|
| This rules. Can I give you more than $7.99?
|
| If you agree with us that this is a pretty good idea, you can
| donate as much as you want during checkout for your 2024 Election
| Pack. Literally no limit, because we're a Super PAC. This is the
| kind of crazy shit that happens when the Supreme Court rules that
| "money is speech" and corporations can spend unlimited amounts of
| cash influencing elections. If you want to make a very large
| donation, please email us and we'll work it out.
| jedberg wrote:
| It seems some people are surprised that they were able to buy
| data on who voted and how they lean.
|
| I wasn't surprised because I worked on a campaign before. It's
| ridiculous how much information you can get about voters for not
| a lot of money.
|
| You can get their phone number and email address that they
| provided with their voter registration, and the do not call list
| does not even apply (nor the do not spam list). You can call and
| email with reckless abandon.
|
| It's kinda crazy how basically every law meant to protect people
| from spam has a special carve out for political campaigns.
| madmod wrote:
| Can someone explain what law forces Musk to pay them $47 for
| everyone that fills out a form?
| jedberg wrote:
| Musk is running a similar program for people in swing states,
| paying them $47 to refer potential Trump voters. If he doesn't
| pay, or pays selectively, he's violating various campaign
| finance laws.
| api wrote:
| Isn't it flat illegal to pay people to vote? Otherwise Trump
| or Harris could just... directly bribe people to vote for
| them through a cutout.
| orwin wrote:
| It's not if its a superPAC, apparently.
| drcross wrote:
| He's not paying people to vote. He's paying people to
| register to vote.
| unsnap_biceps wrote:
| it'll be breach of contract. Musk is promising that he will pay
| every valid voter in the swing states $47 if they fill out his
| form and certify they will vote for in the interest of the
| first and second amendments, if a eligible voter fulfills their
| part of the bargain and says to send their check to CaH, it's
| their right to do so. Musk can't just decide he doesn't like
| what they're doing with (now) their money and not pay up on his
| end of the bargain.
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