[HN Gopher] Press Conference: Professor Geoffrey Hinton, Nobel P...
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       Press Conference: Professor Geoffrey Hinton, Nobel Prize in Physics
       2024 [video]
        
       Author : moose44
       Score  : 123 points
       Date   : 2024-10-09 19:26 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | stonethrowaway wrote:
       | This is what clickbait-by-design looks like. The headline is,
       | minor omission aside that Ilya was Hinton's student, the entire
       | article.
       | 
       | I am sure folks here can find a better use of their time than to
       | dogpile on sama. We have enough of those threads to go around
       | that this one is incredibly below the belt.
       | 
       | So please help keep HN relatively drama/snide free, and flag this
       | article.
       | 
       | Special thanks to TechCrunch for keeping the quality of their
       | articles high. We couldn't have done it without you.
        
         | tourist123 wrote:
         | I think it's unfair to call this drama/snide - it seems pretty
         | justified for academics like Geoffrey Hinton to be upset that a
         | non-profit research lab called _Open_ AI has been converted to
         | a for-profit company + billions of stock for sama. Seems like a
         | pretty good use of time to talked about how messed up that is.
        
         | 31337Logic wrote:
         | What does it matter that Ilya was Geoffrey's student?
         | 
         | I will not flag this. Indeed, quite the opposite - I upvoted.
         | 
         | Is it the most scholarly article ever written? Of course not,
         | but that's no reason to flag. I think Sam A. is wholly
         | deserving of all the negative press of late. Articles like this
         | keep the rational debate alive. We're proof of that, right now.
        
       | freehorse wrote:
       | Full interview:
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       | https://youtu.be/H7DgMFqrON0
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       | The particular mention is at ~3:32.
       | 
       | edit: the link was initially pointing to a (admittedly not very
       | high quality) techcrunch article. The part mentioned there where
       | GH closes his speech by "I'm particularly proud of the fact that
       | one of my students fired Sam Altman" is at ~3:32 of the video in
       | the current link.
        
       | dang wrote:
       | We changed the URL from https://techcrunch.com/2024/10/09/after-
       | winning-nobel-for-fo..., which cherry-picks a single detail
       | (doubtless the most sensational) to the video itself.
       | 
       | With cases like this, it's helpful to remember that we're trying
       | to optimize HN for one thing, intellectual curiosity [1].
       | Remembering that often turns borderline calls into easy ones.
       | 
       | [1]
       | https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...
        
         | stonethrowaway wrote:
         | Thank you dang. I'll take the downvotes/flags but it really
         | would be beneficial if HN "understood" that we are better off
         | removing sensationalism rather than playing directly into the
         | bait of it.
        
       | ghayes wrote:
       | Geoffrey Hinton had an excellent series on neural networks from
       | 2011 for Coursera available here
       | https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoRl3Ht4JOcdU872GhiYWf6...
       | detailing the fundamentals of machine learning. The series was
       | later wholesale replaced by another led by Andrew Ng of Google. I
       | really adored Geoffrey's lectures and recommend it to anyone
       | looking to get into the space. It ends with him hinting at the
       | idea of attention networks, but sadly I can't find any later
       | lectures from him on the topic.
        
       | asadm wrote:
       | mentioning sama, so petty.
        
       | OutOfHere wrote:
       | To give credit where it is due, it is Sam, not Ilya, that brought
       | ChatGPT and its API to the people.
        
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