[HN Gopher] X reinstated in Brazil after complying with court de...
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X reinstated in Brazil after complying with court demands
Author : anigbrowl
Score : 53 points
Date : 2024-10-08 21:47 UTC (1 hours ago)
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| sigmar wrote:
| >"Although X may not be a top priority for most advertisers in
| Brazil, the platform needs them more than they need it."
|
| Really does seem like it came down to this point. Musk hoped
| Brazilian users would get angry with the government, and they
| just downloaded bluesky instead. Musk lost a month of Brazilian
| revenue and gained nothing.
|
| I followed some Brazilians on my (mostly unused) bluesky account.
| Will be interesting to see if they stick around there, return to
| twitter, or use both.
| MuffinFlavored wrote:
| > Really does seem like it came down to this point. Musk hoped
| Brazilian users would get angry with the government, and they
| just downloaded bluesky instead. Musk lost a month of Brazilian
| revenue and gained nothing.
|
| What's the word for posts like these online? I don't know if
| what it is claiming is true or false (it's hard to measure) but
| I always read things like this.
|
| Basically, if you speak as if it is true, you are speaking it
| into existence. I wouldn't say spreading
| disinformation/building a narrative but... when a claim is made
| without any sources/citations, and it speaks as if it is
| fact... I don't know.
| metadat wrote:
| See also: _The New Age: SV Politics_
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41765734 - Oct 2024 (306
| comments)
| jrflowers wrote:
| The influx of Brazilian users to BlueSky was pretty
| public(1).
|
| > What's the word for posts like these online?
|
| The word is "post". When someone writes a thing and puts it
| online with or without a supporting body of evidence they are
| engaged in posting.
|
| For example you have posited without evidence that there is a
| need for a special word for a post without evidence. I don't
| know if that claim is true or false but it is, undoubtedly, a
| post
|
| 1
|
| https://www.theverge.com/2024/8/30/24232561/brazil-x-ban-
| sen...
| threeseed wrote:
| I don't think any comment anyone makes here is going to will
| anything into existence.
|
| And it's a fact that Musk lost Brazilian revenue, gained
| nothing and that some percentage of users would've switched
| to Bluesky, Threads etc. during the block.
| sigmar wrote:
| uh, which aspect do you think might not be correct? he didn't
| lose revenue? He didn't hope people would get angry? people
| didn't download bluesky?
|
| I quoted the expert from the article speaking of twitter's
| lost revenue and there's a link about people turning to
| bluesky also in the article.
| toast0 wrote:
| In general, I think you're looking for self-fulfilling
| prophecy. Hearing the prophecy induces behavior that leads to
| the prophecy coming true.
|
| Although I'm not sure sigmar's observation fits this criteria
| as it's a discussion of events that already happened, or that
| it will be disseminated enough to change the future if you
| consider it as a prediction of future events should some
| other widely substitute service cross the Brazilian courts.
|
| Ex-Twitter wasn't the first service to get blocked in Brazil.
| Brazilians know from experience that if the service they use
| gets blocked, they should look for a similar service that's
| not blocked, and get on with their life. When the one they
| used comes back, they often go back, but it probably depends
| on relative merits. If you're a competing service, it's a
| great way to get a lot of exposure, but sometimes the load is
| too much and you leave a poor impression.
| hggigg wrote:
| This shows the true value of the platform to end users is near
| zero. If it goes away the world keeps turning.
| declan_roberts wrote:
| People follow Elon Musk in a way that I simply do not understand.
| They should start selling Elon Musk gossip tabloids in the
| supermarket. They'd sell like crazy!
| threeseed wrote:
| a) Twitter was and to a lesser extent still is an important
| platform for news and information. And his role in furthering
| misinformation and division has influenced many people.
|
| b) Musk's unpredictable antics e.g. going to Trump rallys and
| setting up SuperPAC, being a government contractor and talking
| about Kamala assassinations is controversial and often
| newsworthy.
|
| c) Rumors about Musk working with JD Vance and Peter Thiel to
| effectively run the government on behalf of Trump.
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