[HN Gopher] European govt air-gapped systems breached using cust...
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       European govt air-gapped systems breached using custom malware
        
       Author : tagyro
       Score  : 20 points
       Date   : 2024-10-08 17:52 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.welivesecurity.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.welivesecurity.com)
        
       | binary_slinger wrote:
       | I'm a bit disappointed the mechanism to exfiltrate data is based
       | on sharing the USB between an internet-connected and air gapped
       | devices. It would have been cool if it used some other side
       | channel like acoustic signals.
        
         | ChocolateGod wrote:
         | Just wait till neuralink gets hacked and people themselves
         | become the side channel.
        
           | A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote:
           | I am not sure why you are being downvoted. Just like fridges,
           | cars, ovens gained internet access, enhanced humans will be
           | extremely likely to be, eventually -- and possibly with
           | interesting consequences -- hacked.
        
             | dingnuts wrote:
             | if Neuralink became pervasive like smartphones I'd join the
             | Amish
        
             | MOARDONGZPLZ wrote:
             | Like the January 6 question, I'm assuming that anyone who
             | had a neuralink would likely be ineligible for any sort of
             | clearance to access information like this.
        
               | A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote:
               | I am not as certain. Sure, Musk and his product are no
               | longer 'cool' given his move to US political right
               | faction, but tech is tech. Some tried banning cell phones
               | and whatnot and the old guard there had to adjust their
               | expectations.
               | 
               | In short, I am not sure you are right about it. If
               | anything, and I personally see it as a worst case
               | scenario, use of that contraption will be effectively
               | mandatory the way having cell phone is now.
        
             | renewiltord wrote:
             | You can already hack people by just telling them things.
             | Many of them will do dumb shit if you just use the right
             | words.
        
               | A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote:
               | I like the analogy. Lets explore it a little.
               | 
               | << You can already hack people by just telling them
               | things.
               | 
               | True, but language fluctuates, zeitgeist changes and
               | while underlying techniques remain largely the same, what
               | nationstate would not dream of being able to simply have
               | people obey when it tells them to do behave in a
               | particular way. Yes, you can regimen people through
               | propaganda, but what if it you could do it more easily
               | this way?
        
             | rad_gruchalski wrote:
             | > I am not sure why you are being downvoted.
             | 
             | Trigger-happy emotional non-intelligence.
        
       | benoau wrote:
       | The weak-point is the shared USB device that copies from one
       | machine to another which seems to defeat the whole purpose of
       | being air-gapped - you could have printed-and-OCR'd data three
       | decades ago so the air-gapped machine is never reading anything
       | from outside at all, these days a video stream and AI could
       | probably automate that?
        
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