[HN Gopher] Canvases versus Documents
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       Canvases versus Documents
        
       Author : todsacerdoti
       Score  : 33 points
       Date   : 2024-10-06 06:50 UTC (2 days ago)
        
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       | pintxo wrote:
       | > Text is meant to be understood and quickly scanned. Websites
       | are attempting a "canvas-style" design, generally better for
       | conveying feeling, but for text, which is meant to convey meaning
       | and immersion.
       | 
       | This might be, because lots of websites are not there to convey
       | meaning but rather want to bring you in the right mood to do x.
       | And it seems to be that humans - on average - can be far more
       | easily brought into the right mood by manipulating `feelings`
       | than through rational arguments.
        
         | exe34 wrote:
         | I think that's also why some politicians, who shall remain
         | unnamed, are able to speak entire paragraphs of words that
         | don't connect into logical sentences. They'll say all the right
         | words - "great", "success", "prosperity", "safe", and also the
         | other kinds of words "immigrants", "violence", etc, without
         | actually committing to anything specific.
         | 
         | I think the reason it works is the same reason poetry works -
         | the sentences aren't meant to be English prose that can be
         | parsed logically, but instead, meant to be verses that evoke
         | certain emotions.
         | 
         | it seems to work really well for getting elected.
        
           | dylan604 wrote:
           | It's like the marketing department won. Who cares if there's
           | a there there, just make everyone think there is.
        
       | Feathercrown wrote:
       | This dichotomy seems like a very useful tool for analyzing media.
        
       | jauntywundrkind wrote:
       | I'd really like the page to be a canvas, made up of many
       | addressable sub objects such as documents. Doable with rdfa or
       | microdata, where elements can declare urls for themselves, but
       | there's nothing but semantic web researchers and some
       | experimental browsers & extensions for it. The page itself could
       | rock & extend this premise, if it wanted.
        
       | AlienRobot wrote:
       | Is the article a canvas or a document?
        
       | 0xCAP wrote:
       | Nototo, a now dismissed web app, really nailed this. I'm gonna
       | miss it so much.
        
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