[HN Gopher] The Naming of America (2023)
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       The Naming of America (2023)
        
       Author : dadt
       Score  : 19 points
       Date   : 2024-10-06 18:04 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (www.jonathancohenweb.com)
        
       | dang wrote:
       | Anybody know the year of this essay? I put 2001 above because
       | it's the latest date I could find in the text.
        
         | alehlopeh wrote:
         | At the bottom of the article it says "An early version of this
         | essay appeared in The American Voice (1988) and a section in
         | Encounters (1991)."
        
           | jolmg wrote:
           | I think they know, but the problem is that they wouldn't be
           | able to cite 2001 in 1991/1988.
        
         | JohnKemeny wrote:
         | 1988 according to Google Scholar.
         | 
         | https://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?q=related:KEG9SnudRCsJ:...
        
         | madcaptenor wrote:
         | Might be 2023. A look through the author's list of publications
         | (https://www.jonathancohenweb.com/jc-pubs.html) gives a
         | citation under 2023:
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         | "Why Do We Call It 'America'?" [C]. American Heritage 68.7."
         | 
         | That links to an essay at https://www.americanheritage.com/why-
         | do-we-call-it-america which says in an editor's note that
         | "Portions of this essay originally appeared in The American
         | Voice." The americanheritage.com version looks very similar to
         | this one.
        
           | dang wrote:
           | I guess that's the best evidence we have so I went with 2023
           | above. Thanks!
           | 
           | (Seems likely to me that it was written earlier, or the most
           | recent reference wouldn't have been 2001, but that's only a
           | hunch.)
        
       | cjs_ac wrote:
       | A less rigorous but more entertaining treatment of this topic is
       | available here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfXoUaeLcDU
        
       | meiraleal wrote:
       | Intersting. In Brazil we argue that the US isn't America. Great
       | to know that Brazil was first called America, not the US :)
        
       | freetime2 wrote:
       | > Not surprisingly, the notion that America was named for
       | Vespucci has long been universally accepted, so much so that a
       | lineal descendant, America Vespucci, came to New Orleans in 1839
       | and asked for a land grant "in recognition of her name and
       | parentage."
       | 
       | I found this little aside in the opening paragraph interesting.
       | Who did she ask? And was she successful?
       | 
       | A quick google search didn't turn up much about America Vespucci.
       | I did find one article about her that makes her sound very
       | interesting [1], but no mention of the above request. I'm
       | guessing from the way she moved around after 1839 her request was
       | not granted, though.
       | 
       | [1]
       | https://jeffcowiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Marie_Helene_America_Ve...
        
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