[HN Gopher] Apple is still limiting the iPhone 16 to slow 24-yea...
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Apple is still limiting the iPhone 16 to slow 24-year-old USB 2.0
speeds
Author : miles
Score : 33 points
Date : 2024-10-06 16:20 UTC (6 hours ago)
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| mattl wrote:
| By using a USB 2.0 port.
| catlikesshrimp wrote:
| >"Maybe to save space"
|
| You see, this is the one size fit all argument they can use when
| nothing else sticks properly
| chrsw wrote:
| They want you to use wireless as much as possible. Their dream is
| 0 physical ports. And I say this as an iPhone user and someone
| who generally likes using Apple products.
| instagib wrote:
| Too bad because wireless airdrop compresses media files.
| ValentineC wrote:
| > _Too bad because wireless airdrop compresses media files._
|
| Do you have a source for this? Even a forum thread with a few
| people complaining about it would be fine.
|
| You'll need to choose, under Options, to use the "Current"
| format to prevent "compression".
| instagib wrote:
| https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255765702
|
| I don't see any setting for current format vs compression
| options on iPhone.
| tmottabr wrote:
| why the hell are you using airdrop??
|
| upload it to icloud and have icloud client in the computer
| sync it.. It will just show up there automagically..
|
| That is what i do, i have not plugged an iPhone to a computer
| in ages.. my last three were likely never plugged at all..
| instagib wrote:
| Airdrop pictures and video to other people while traveling
| on a restricted data limit or no internet.
|
| 3GB of stuff after a day of traveling easy.
| goosedragons wrote:
| Do you constantly clear your free 5GB of iCloud storage or
| do you pay money to do things that should be achievable for
| free?
| 9x39 wrote:
| This is super tangential, but isn't secondary storage
| basically free now? You could look at it as a % of
| overall computing spend (phone, laptop, desktop,
| acccessories, etc) or even just price/TB historically,
| and either way it's a rounding error.
| atonse wrote:
| I would buy that except they've put in full thunderbolt 4 in
| the pro so they've got an insanely fast interconnect on that
| phone with the same USB-C port.
|
| Granted, that requires a tb4 controller chip but I don't know
| if that's built into the A18 pro or not.
| dzhiurgis wrote:
| I wish they used wireless when viewing from computer nearby.
| Sort of fuse your online library with phone.
|
| Airdrop is only ok for few photos.
| kaba0 wrote:
| Who would that benefit? Like, they have to service these
| devices, a cable connection is just much more reliable.
| bjoli wrote:
| How does one get decent audio from a phone without a 3.5mm-
| jack? I am only half joking, and I know this is beating a dead
| horse. But sometimes you need to make sure the horse is really
| dead. If I sit with my phone and a pair of headphones with aptX
| adaptive it is only good if I have direct line of sight and
| don't move around. This is my experience with all adaptive
| codecs. Putting my phone in my pocket makes it noticeably
| worse. If you walk into a store with 2.4ghz WiFi (or too much
| Bluetooth interference?), suddenly your audio quality tanks
| even more.
|
| My wife's airpods only supports aac256 at absolute best,
| meaning it sounds bad most of the time. If I sit with the phone
| in front of me it is more or less unnoticeable, but putting her
| phone in my pocket, the cymbals start sounding like splashes in
| a pool.
|
| And then there is the latency. Anything above 50ms is
| unbearable. For some reason it works ok in English, but I
| almost can't watch Swedish (my mother tongue) or German content
| with that kind of latency.
| diogocp wrote:
| > How does one get decent audio from a phone without a 3.5mm-
| jack?
|
| https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MW2Q3AM/A/
| m463 wrote:
| I think more like "make things as simple as possible, but no
| simpler"
|
| (for mistaken values of "as possible")
| blackeyeblitzar wrote:
| This is a limitation of the non Pro models. Feels a bit like the
| money grab Apple has going on the memory upgrades.
| Drew_ wrote:
| Yup it's the same thing with ProMotion missing on the display
| even though it's identical to last year's Pro model.
| macintosh-hd wrote:
| I wish that people would understand that the average amount of
| times anyone who buys a non pro iPhone plugs it into a computer
| with the intent to transfer data to it is 0. Most of the people I
| know with iPhones don't even remember syncing at all. Many of
| them do not own a computer. What's the point of wasting the parts
| cost?
| goosedragons wrote:
| Didn't they put it in the SoC for the 15 Pro/16 Pro? It's an
| $800 phone and it's a feature that much cheaper competitors
| have (e.g. Pixel 8a) . For the times you need it it's handy. I
| know quite a few people that have been frustrated trying to get
| GBs of photos off their iPhone too where it runs it problems
| due to the sheer volume.
|
| They support other niche features like display out so why not
| support for almost 15 year old USB speeds. How much does it
| seriously cost to add?
| ahakki wrote:
| Wrong! Tons of "regular users" want to transfer their image
| library from their phone to their PC. This is usually dozens of
| GB of data. Very often the tranfer (from iphone to cheap
| windows laptop via oxidized cable) is not even completly
| successful.
|
| My usual recomendation for these people is to buy icloud
| storage ($$$$) and sync the images over the web, because this
| is faster an less error prone.
|
| EDIT: therefore the average amount of times anyone who buys a
| non pro iPhone plugs it into a computer with the intent to
| transfer data to it is _almost_ 0
| Modified3019 wrote:
| I routinely transfer GB of photos taken for work to my PC via
| imazing.
|
| The sentiment of "I don't need it so I can't understand why
| anyone else would either" is asinine.
| password4321 wrote:
| Another satisfied iMazing user here, works great backing up
| and thus transferring photos/videos over WiFi.
| bjoli wrote:
| My parents do that all the time. The videos of their
| grandchildren take AGES to transfer.
|
| Meanwhile, my phone that is half the price does almost 8
| gigabits.
| m463 wrote:
| That's a flawed argument, like saying people rarely use their
| car's hazard lights or emergency jack.
| urda wrote:
| That's just a false equivalence mate. A data transfer speed
| has nothing to do or is related to safety features of a car.
| dzhiurgis wrote:
| And iCloud is even slower than this. Around 10mbps if it's cold
| archive.
| bjoli wrote:
| I started self hosting things like that, and I am always
| surprised at how fast things get.
| metalman wrote:
| there is a cross platform push to go all wireless a lot of the
| how to's that are about useing usb,then give instructions for
| wifi.....so.... ......just getting a new cheap wallmart android
| phone to plug in and transfer files to a linux box is a chore
| now,but once it's working it's fast and whole photo albums jump
| from one device to another my internet is strictly through a wifi
| hotspot on one phone with mass data,and then a second phone for
| general use and a semi broken laptop and an old hdmi screen
| running mint,which refuses to connect to more than one wifi thing
| at a time and the second phone is devoid of googlish apps and
| does not play nice with any web sites doing multiple
| redirects(etc),but it is my main camera so,usb is in constant use
| jmpman wrote:
| Bought an iPhone 16 pro max on launch day. Went to the Apple
| Store with my iPhone 15 pro max, and was encouraged to transfer
| my data in the store. I sat there for 7 hours, with both phones
| connected via hard wired Ethernet, and was still not successful.
| The only use case I can come up with for higher speed physical is
| direct phone to phone data transfer during these upgrade cycles.
| I'm appalled by how much doesn't work on my new phone - passwords
| that need to be re-established, music that needs to be
| downloaded. It's not a traditionally clean "it just works" Apple
| experience. I'd like to plug a USB cable into both phone, and
| within 15min, have my new phone exactly like my old phone -
| exactly the same. It was so bad, I may skip future refresh cycles
| - and the reason Apple may thing about actually fixing the
| experience.
| heroiccocoa wrote:
| It's not as if Android offers anything either. Third party
| tools like syncthing can be used to backup the camera folder,
| but the root android folder is protected against copying
| because of permissions issues that Google refuses to fix. Same
| if you connect it to an external SSD. You have to root your
| phone truly be able to make a simple, complete backup. But that
| comes with a lot of disadvantages for financial apps, security,
| etc.
| gtvwill wrote:
| Last android phone I bought (my current device, got it as a
| refurb, ill never buy new again its a waste of money) supports
| high speed usbc with display and data out. Usb3.2 gen2 I think
| it is. I specifically chose this phone because of the high
| speed usb transfer rates. I use the 128gb storage for data
| transfer all the time and I also like being able to plug it in
| to usbc monitors and use it as a desktop when I need quick
| compute functions and don't want to lug a pc around or boot up
| my actual desktop.
|
| I make sure most of my clients whenever they buy new monitors
| get usbc hub monitors. The price is bugger all extra and once I
| show them what I can do with my phone they basically want the
| same. Not to mention I haven't installed a laptop workstation
| space that isn't usb c one cable to plugin and go in about 3
| years now.
| ryaneager wrote:
| If you use iCloud backups, you get that. Downloads your
| settings first, then restarts and download all your content.
| Your phone is an exact copy of what you had before minus the
| debit/credit cards in Wallet.
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