[HN Gopher] Congress fights to keep AM radio in cars
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Congress fights to keep AM radio in cars
Author : giuliomagnifico
Score : 54 points
Date : 2024-10-05 09:47 UTC (1 days ago)
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| cranberryturkey wrote:
| SF Giants are still aired on AM radio -- that's about all I use
| AM for these days.
| 082349872349872 wrote:
| We've deprecated FM already; it should disappear either end of
| this year or in a couple of years (I haven't been following
| very closely; I don't listen to it either).
| illini1 wrote:
| FM radio has not been deprecated, where did you hear that?
| And the infrastructure is not disappearing any time soon.
| londons_explore wrote:
| Norway shut down FM in 2023. Switzerland will shut it down
| in 2026. Various other governments are choosing dates -
| it's clear it's going away soon.
| cj wrote:
| Stupid question, but what do you listen to in the car
| without FM?
|
| Surely playing music doesn't require that you you connect
| your phone to your car?
| londons_explore wrote:
| All cars in Europe support DAB (digital radio) for the
| last ~5 years by law.
|
| Pretty much all cars also support bluetooth, USB sticks,
| and some still have Aux in. Some support various internet
| radio/music (spotify etc). Most cars support Android
| Auto/Carplay, wired and wireless, giving you access to
| anything your phone supports.
| trinix912 wrote:
| But Norway and Switzerland are two countries where I'd
| assume you don't see as many 20 year old cars as you do
| in the opposite parts of Europe. Many cars since the
| early 2000s don't have those standardized boxy stereos
| you could just swap anymore. You can make the point that
| people can just tune in through their phone but most
| people won't go through the hassle every time they sit in
| a (company owned, for example) car. I doubt FM is going
| away this decade, perhaps even longer, for most of the
| world. As for Europe, there's also Romania with their
| longwave AM broadcasts.
| Tor3 wrote:
| Norway still have local FM radios. It's just the big
| public and commercial stations which were forced to move
| to DAB. When that's said, I believe there are fewer and
| fewer local stations available.
| londons_explore wrote:
| The FM bands are more commercially 'interesting', because
| they're wider. One traditional FM band can fit tens of
| digital radio stations in, via DAB or DRM or HD radio etc.
|
| AM bands aren't very useful for modern tech because you need
| huge antennas, can't do MIMO or squeeze much data in, etc.
| SoftTalker wrote:
| Yes if you remember back to pre-digital era, there were
| maybe half a dozen FM stations in most areas. Even without
| "preset" buttons you could tune them almost by memory by
| how far you had to spin the dial. Now there are dozens of
| FM stations, often low power but it seems like almost every
| 0.2 frequency increment has something.
| SoftTalker wrote:
| AM is mostly news, talk, and sports for many years now. When I
| was a kid most new cars didn't even have FM radios yet and the
| AM stations were more varied, many played music, top 40, etc.
| 486sx33 wrote:
| Well, I love finding new and different FM stations while
| traveling. I confess I haven't listened to AM in years, in the
| cities there is often a lot of interference...
|
| That being said, they should be required to have better shielding
| on their electric motors
| zephyreon wrote:
| I appreciate that people still find AM radio useful, nostalgic,
| etc. This feels like something that should not be regulated. Let
| auto manufacturers decide to include it or not, consumers will
| vote with their wallets. I doubt most people will miss AM radio
| all that much.
| hinkley wrote:
| What's the total bandwidth of the AM band? Does it make sense
| to reclaim it for wide area wireless networking?
| pfdietz wrote:
| The width of the AM radio band in the US is just a shade over
| 1 MHz, so there's not much room.
| Mr-Frog wrote:
| It's about 1MHz. Signals can propagate pretty far due to
| ionospheric interactions, which could be a positive or
| negative effect depending on your intentions.
| swatcoder wrote:
| When living in the unassailed peace and prosperity of a Western
| society in the post-Cold War era, it's very easy to forget that
| profound security and emergency crises are still likely to
| occur sooner or later.
|
| Preserving the viability of simple radio circuits that might
| receive public safety messages and the towers that can
| broadcast to them is a concern that operates on a different
| level than "will it make the car cheaper" or "who even listens
| to AM"
|
| A lot of the systems and technologies that we've grown used to
| and rely on for our daily needs are extremely capable but also
| extremely fragile and brittle. Keeping backstop technologies
| from being lost altogether is fairly cheap and might make a
| significant difference if and when crises do arise.
| uberman wrote:
| A portable AM radio costs 10 bucks. Should we also mandate
| that cars come with first aid kit, a flashlight or
| defibrillator?
| LeoPanthera wrote:
| You think you're making a joke, but many countries do
| regulate that cars come with basic safety equipment. France
| is just one example.
| uberman wrote:
| Germany may require a first aid kit but it is not
| required in France. In either case, that argument is
| moot. We are talking about the USA.
| uni_rule wrote:
| Wouldn't be a terrible idea.
| SoftTalker wrote:
| I'm guessing not defibillators but many countries require
| emergency first aid kits, hazard triangle markers/flares,
| fire extinguishers, spare bulbs, etc. to be carried in the
| car.
| jessriedel wrote:
| I also think the marginal cost of making a FM radio an
| AM/FM radio is less than $10. Probably more like $1?
| SoftTalker wrote:
| Yes an AM receiver is extremely simple.
| Swizec wrote:
| > Should we also mandate that cars come with first aid kit
|
| Yes actually. Where I'm from cars are required to have a
| first aid kit and everyone who has a driver's license needs
| to do a first aid course.
|
| You'll be at the scene of an accident you witness waaaaaay
| sooner than the ambulance. This stuff saves lives.
| cassepipe wrote:
| That would not adress at all the point of the comment you
| are responding to : Even though it costs 10 bucks, there
| won't be any to buy if no one had use for them and when you
| may not be able to go the store buy a radio when the
| emergency happens.
| detaro wrote:
| Requiring first aid kits to be carried in cars is a fairly
| common thing. And for a radio which needs power, is useful
| while the car is moving, ... it makes quite a bit of sense
| for it to be built in instead of being a required "you need
| to buy and carry this on your own" item
| uberman wrote:
| The issue is that lots of things might be useful, be in
| the USA we dont typically mandate useful.
| jemmyw wrote:
| Having an AED in every car would be really nice.
| dylan604 wrote:
| Just put a couple of leads from the starter. That should
| apply a good enough jolt
| hotspot_one wrote:
| > we also mandate that cars come with first aid kit.
|
| This is standard in Europe. Yes, we should. Small, light
| weight, low cost, and "it's better to have it and not need
| it than to need it and not have it".
|
| And tire jack/spare tire, and a reflector vest.
| ta1243 wrote:
| I had a puncture in a hire car a couple of years ago and
| was distressed to find they no longer bother with spare
| tyres - at least in the UK. Not sure if this is some
| money saving escapade, or if it's because most drivers no
| longer knows how to change a wheel.
|
| Instead had to wait hours for a tow truck and a
| replacement tyre.
|
| Vest and first aid kit cost like EUR15, absolutely should
| have them - although I'm not convinced the typical "cut
| finger" first aid kit would be much help. Sure if you
| knick yourself changing your wheel (which of course you
| don't do any more), but I wonder what level of injury
| it's useful for when looking at a typical crash.
| jalk wrote:
| If we are worried about emergency broadcasts, perhaps we
| should focus on portable solar/crank driven radios, instead
| of relying on one being bolted to your car, which in new cars
| also requires the entire car entertainment system to be
| working. And I'm not sure I'd risk going to my car, when the
| zombies are outside my front door.
| trinix912 wrote:
| When the power goes out, the car radio is the radio that
| works for most people. If we're talking emergency
| broadcasting, car AM radio is one of the more battle tested
| failsafe options.
| ysavir wrote:
| "Voting with your wallet" works for small and frequent
| purchases. The bigger and less frequent the purchase, the less
| impact it has.
| flaminHotSpeedo wrote:
| Especially for things like cars where there's very few
| options and most of the auto industry does the same thing.
|
| If you have even a single constraint outside the "industry
| norm" (like a manual transmission in the US, or potentially
| in the future an AM radio) you are all but guaranteed to have
| to give up nice to have features and/or pay a lot more
| cvoss wrote:
| Exactly. And especially when the feature makes up only a tiny
| fraction of the whole feature set and production cost of the
| product, consumers are entirely at the mercy of the
| manufacturers. I'm not going to buy a different make over
| this. I'm just going to tolerate it unhappily. In the extreme
| case, manufacturers know that they could get away with
| dropping this kind of feature even if literally everybody
| wanted it.
|
| In my software development experience, companies invoke this
| line of reasoning all the time.
| bobthepanda wrote:
| AM is useful in emergency situations, like the hurricane that
| wiped out Appalachia a week ago. The range of FM is shorter, so
| it's more likely to be affected by the disaster.
| anonexpat wrote:
| That didn't work out very well for consumers buying GM cars
| that sold their driving data out the back door to insurance
| companies.
| loeg wrote:
| I drive in the mountains in winter and regularly see 'tune AM
| xxxx for advisories' road signs, for example. It serves a
| useful public safety function. How expensive is an AM tuner for
| a manufacturer? Surely it's like, $5 or less in additional
| COGS.
| Aloha wrote:
| The cost isn't in the radio, you have a single chip which is
| a complete AM/FM radio - the cost is in making cars quiet
| enough from an EMI point of view - something which, IMO, they
| should have to do anyhow to comply with Part 15.
| jessriedel wrote:
| This seems like a super important fact for the discussion.
| Do you have a cite that it really constrains the rest of
| the car?
| Aloha wrote:
| "Several automakers, most notably Tesla and Ford, have
| decided to stop putting AM radios in their electric
| vehicles. They claim their electric motors interfere with
| the audio quality of the signal and insist that FM and
| satellite radio are enough."
|
| https://www.cbsnews.com/news/am-radio-congress-
| automakers/
|
| I can find other references as well if you want. EMI in
| cars has been an issue for a long time, automakers
| however did do the needed work suppress the noise from
| spark plugs, I do not see this as any different.
| jessriedel wrote:
| Thanks!
|
| Any idea if the law requires the redesign (i.e., requires
| that the AM radio meets some level of audio quality when
| operating in the vehicle) or if it just requires the AM
| radio to be present and (somewhat understandably) the
| manufacturer don't want to include an AM radio if it
| consistently sounds bad?
| Aloha wrote:
| We mandated UHF channel reception for televisions
| (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-Channel_Receiver_Act)
|
| I believe that mandating AM reception is perfectly reasonable -
| as the reason given for leaving it out is because auto
| manufacturers do not want to spend the money to reduce the EMI
| from their vehicles.
|
| The total added BOM cost to add AM to a modern radio is zero -
| because they have a single chip that does both AM/FM.
| trinix912 wrote:
| Does that also mean that those cars could potentially be
| responsible for tons of interference in the AM band in the
| future?
| Aloha wrote:
| My belief? yes, it does. The motor controllers are noisy.
| trinix912 wrote:
| If so, it's interesting the FCC hasn't stepped in since
| nearly all electronics need that certification.
| chomp wrote:
| There's two types of electronics you're referring to.
| There's incidental radiators, like electric motors,
| switching power supplies, etc that the FCC understands
| that RF will be generated from, and they ask that these
| devices merely minimize their RF.
|
| Then there's Unintentional Radiators which is probably
| what you're thinking of, which include computers and
| other electronics, which are regulated to limit RF.
| Lammy wrote:
| It's a standardized part of the highway system in the same way
| as the standardized lines painted on the pavement, not just
| something to support or not-support based on current fashion.
| The linked article does a very poor job conveying this with its
| framing on radio-as-entertainment and on corporate
| consolidation of radio stations. Key phrases: "Highway Advisory
| Radio" or "Travelers Information Station", neither of which are
| mentioned in the article.
|
| Here are the technical requirements and implementation details
| of California's (CalTrans') system, for example:
| https://dot.ca.gov/-/media/dot-media/programs/research-innov...
|
| And some general history: https://aairo.org/history.htm
| hotspot_one wrote:
| What would feel like something that should be regulated to you?
|
| Keep in mind that things like hurricanes do happen
| occasionally, and the car's AM radio might be the only working
| communication medium...
| christophilus wrote:
| Regulations are good for enforcing national security measures
| that the general public rarely has in mind when making a
| purchase. I tend to have a skeptical view of regulation, but
| this seems wise.
| RobotToaster wrote:
| The problem with digital radio is that it's all or nothing.
|
| Analogue degrades gracefully, if you need to listen to the news
| in an emergency, it doesn't matter if it sounds fuzzy.
| mplewis wrote:
| Digital radio remains working at much worse SNR than
| intelligible fuzzy analog.
| greesil wrote:
| For comparable BER. I wonder what SNR is needed for speech to
| be intelligible?
|
| To be fair, if someone made a voice encoding only with that
| had a lot of error correction bits, it would probably work at
| much longer distances. Some of the codecs are 2 kilobits per
| second for human voice? That's got to have a way better
| margin for the same channel bandwidth than analog decoded by
| the human brain. This way we get the digital advantage and
| lossy compression.
| hulitu wrote:
| Citation needed.
| cogman10 wrote:
| https://opus-codec.org/demo/opus-1.5/
|
| Especially for speech, there are aggressive and impressive
| algorithms that can turn a trickle of bits into
| understandable voice.
| Tor3 wrote:
| In my anecdotal experience I have to agree (though I dislike
| digital radio for completely different reasons). The
| reception is perfect everywhere around here, while FM was
| very different, from the exact same transmitter point. The
| same goes for UHF TV, the quality was very sensitive to the
| exact position of the antenna on my roof, after they switched
| to digital, using the same frequency and the same
| transmitter, everything is perfect even though the wind has
| turned the antenna 90 degrees. I don't bother adjusting it,
| there's zero need.
| kachapopopow wrote:
| FM radio will still exist afaik. Nobody in my country used AM
| for a decade now.
| LeoPanthera wrote:
| The useful range of FM is much shorter. The reason why AM
| transmitters remain so useful in geographically large
| countries like the USA is that you need far fewer
| transmitters to reach everyone.
| bigfishrunning wrote:
| That has more to do with the frequency band then the
| modulation scheme. I wonder if long range FM in the
| ~1000khz broadcast band would make sense in the future. It
| would get the range of AM broadcast radio with the quality
| of FM (but it may require too much bandwidth to be
| practical)
| LeoPanthera wrote:
| You're not wrong, but that's useless nitpicking. We're
| not going to suddenly introduce a brand new radio
| standard that no-one has a radio for.
|
| There are literally millions of AM radios out there in
| the US, at the already agreed frequency range. For
| emergency broadcast uses, the increased quality of FM is
| meaningless.
| nahumba wrote:
| The advantage of am over fm is the simplicity of the
| electronic circuit. In am its very easy to create a
| receiver to listen to broadcast. While an fm radio is too
| complicated for amature electronic.
|
| So i dont belive am will ever be dropped for emergency
| radio
| Tor3 wrote:
| FM radios aren't complicated at all. And FM transmitters,
| in particular, are extremely simple. When I was a student
| we had a tiny one we made in an afternoon (this was
| decades ago), we connected it to our 8-hour reel tape
| deck and had our own music station in the car radio when
| we drove around in the area. The advantage of AM is, as
| was mentioned already, the lower frequency used by AM
| which means much better coverage. FM 87MHz-108MHz is
| almost just line of sight.
| kmbfjr wrote:
| No much to a coil, antenna and a germanium diode.
| candiddevmike wrote:
| The geranium diode is doing most of the heavy lifting.
| Good luck building that from scratch.
| kmbfjr wrote:
| It is not useless nitpicking, it is the sole reason of
| your argument why the 300 meter band covers more area
| than the 3 meter band.
| lolinder wrote:
| It's useless nitpicking because in the US, AM vs FM comes
| coupled with those frequency ranges. We're as likely to
| get a brand new radio standard at this point as we are a
| replacement to the NEMA connector, so the next best thing
| is to just use the standard we already have that does the
| job well enough.
| wakawaka28 wrote:
| I'm no expert but I think lowering the frequency far
| below the current standard was not feasible due to the
| frequencies and ranges being transmitted.
| btbuildem wrote:
| If I recall correctly, FM needs the higher frequency
| carrier band to actually M the F effectively. You'd also
| need much longer antennas for this. The amplitude-
| modulated signal also needs far less bandwidth than a
| frequency-modulated one, so it would not "fit" at
| ~1000kHz because there are other reserved bands nearby.
| wakawaka28 wrote:
| FM radio is radically limited in range. You can listen to AM
| or shortwave across a whole continent, or even across oceans.
| With FM you're very lucky to hear something over a hundred
| miles away. AM radio is most popular for news and talk shows,
| and emergency broadcasts.
| RHSeeger wrote:
| When I was living in "upstate" NY (the Poughkeepsie area,
| which isn't upstate, but that's what it's called), I would
| regularly listen to AM stations out of NYC (close to 100
| miles away from the broadcaster); using just the standard
| receiver in my car.
| ajsnigrutin wrote:
| In europe, some are actively trying to kill FM radio and
| switch to DAB... so it's coming, first the european cars,
| then the others too.
| dylan604 wrote:
| Then whatever decision Congress makes will have no effect on
| you
| Aloha wrote:
| Right, but digital radio is a small portion of the US market,
| and what IBOC stuff that did happen, much of it has been turned
| off.
|
| So I dont really understand what this comment has to do with
| the article at hand here?
| bigfishrunning wrote:
| I always thought cars ought to have a weather band receiver in
| them, but I've never seen that feature in a factory radio.
|
| As a HAM I have an amateur transceiver in my car and i find
| weather band reception to be really useful
| quantumfissure wrote:
| I agree. Subaru did have them for a bit in the early-
| mid-2000's. I had it in our 05 Forester. Stock radio. Our 2011
| Outback and my mother-in-law's 2017 Forester lacks it though.
| No clue why they removed it.
|
| It was wonderful going through New England mountains trying to
| know what the weather will do in 5 mins when it inevitably
| changes.
| jessriedel wrote:
| Seems so cheap to include, but I guess it's the same weird
| reasons that car manufacturers are willing to make their UI
| baffling to save a single mechanical button.
| notjulianjaynes wrote:
| Was this stock? I do not recall this feature in either the
| 1998 nor 2001 Subarus I drove into the ground. Seems strange
| but not implausible it would have been briefly an option in
| the generation after that. 2005 is about when Subarus got
| less boxy with big plastic bumpers and crumple zones.
|
| Jokingly, perhaps it was not a feature but happened
| accidentally due to the head gaskets design on the EJ25
| engine.
| notjulianjaynes wrote:
| I'm not sure if Truckers still use CB but on a cross country
| road trip which involved hours being pinned in the left most
| lane on all sides by trailers with speed governors set to 66mph
| I recall wishing I had had the ability to communicate with the
| drivers. It seems like this would be easy to implement from the
| factory as well, although I suppose giving everyone with a new
| car the abulity to speak their minds to others on the road with
| them would a.) be less safe b.) be super annoying.
| azinman2 wrote:
| "While early radio amateurs harnessed its potential to connect
| and inform, the era of unlicensed amateur broadcasting ended
| during World War I due to fears that the new medium might be
| misused to spread foreign propaganda or divisive content."
|
| You gotta wonder what the congress of bygone eras would have done
| with the current system we have of media and corporate control.
| Nasrudith wrote:
| World War 1 era media regulations isn't something to be proud
| of or looked upon as wisdom, it is something to be deeply
| ashamed of. These are the people who arrested pacifists and
| brought us the abominable (in both senses) logic of fire in a
| crowded theater for objecting to draft and involvement in a
| foreign war of unseen proportions.
| SllX wrote:
| Yeah, imagine if a free people had been able to spread
| information contradicting and undermining the Wilson
| administration: https://www.loc.gov/exhibitions/world-war-i-
| american-experie...
|
| (It's worth going through the whole slideshow.)
| hagbard_c wrote:
| Probably the same as some of today's politico's and law makers
| have in mind when it comes to curbing free speech, e.g. John
| Kerry's wish to be free from the limits the first amendment
| puts on government restricting speech [1]: _our First Amendment
| stands as a major block to be able to just, you know, hammer it
| out of existence. So what we need is to win the ground, win the
| right to govern, by hopefully winning enough votes that you're
| free to be able to implement change_ or supreme court justice
| Ketanji Brown-Jackson 's mournful declaration that _[the] First
| Amendment is 'hamstringing' government from censorship_ [2]
|
| [1] https://nypost.com/2024/10/02/opinion/john-kerry-says-
| first-...
|
| [2]
| https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/justice/2926698/keta...
|
| In other words, nothing has changed really in that those in
| power are wary of technology which allows non-government
| (controlled) entities to spread information.
| azinman2 wrote:
| Your link to KBJ is missing a ton of context that is
| extremely reasonable and apparently in agreement with her
| conservative peers:
|
| https://reason.com/2024/03/19/hamstringing-the-
| government-a-...
|
| Even the NY post at least (shockingly) had enough context to
| get to the further reasonable issue: we're seeing mass
| disinformation, sometimes from foreign enemies, spread across
| the homeland at rates never before seen, and in doing its
| ripping apart the fabric of society. The way you're being
| selective in these quotes is doing a disservice to the very
| real issue at hand. This is exactly a "new medium might be
| misused to spread foreign propaganda or divisive content."
| LeoPanthera wrote:
| Modern cars in the US, especially EVs it seems, are not only
| dropping AM radio but also now SiriusXM satellite radio. I was
| shocked to discover that the "Sirius" radio on many cars I have
| been looking at recently was merely an app that streamed over the
| cellular connection.
|
| I find this mildly terrifying. In an emergency, cellular will be
| the first to go. It doesn't even work reliably when everything is
| well.
| jessriedel wrote:
| Yea, even if the major space powers Kesslerize all the
| satellites (like Starlink) in low-Earth orbit, the civilian
| geostationary sats like Sirius XM will likely be flying.
| (Geostationary sats can, I think, only be brought down
| individually with anti-satellite weapons, and that would
| presumably be prohibitively expensive for all of them.)
| gwbas1c wrote:
| I think it'd be fine if Sirius didn't require a subscription.
| The subscription nature turned it into a niche business.
|
| (And gosh Sirius's salesmen are annoying a-holes when they call
| you up to get you to subscribe. The last time I bought a car
| with a Sirius radio I had to insist that I wouldn't get any
| calls from Sirius to subscribe.)
| maxerickson wrote:
| Is there a realistic scenario where cell phones are down and
| there is meaningful coordination being done over SiriusXM?
|
| I don't particularly expect that there would be any effort to
| lean on AM either.
| ajsnigrutin wrote:
| Maybe not meaningful coordination, but if the whole citys
| power shuts down, you'd still like some news about what
| happened, why is there no power, no internet, no nothing....
| war? farmer plowing too deep? ddos attack on the
| infrastructure? In such cases, having long distance
| broadcasting service is great.
| ta1243 wrote:
| AM radio then. If you want internet, get a starlink.
| zzo38computer wrote:
| I am not as concerned that a car has AM radio than I am that AM
| radio must continue to be available and that you must be allowed
| to replace the radio in the car with your own that can use AM
| radio and that the car will not interfere with your use of AM
| radio (whether by replacing the existing radio or by using a
| portable radio). It would be good for the car to include a radio
| that has AM, but that isn't as important as the other things that
| I had mentioned.
|
| AM radio is good due to the simplicity, instead of forcing
| replacing them with excessively complicated and confusing stuff
| like many modern computers are doing.
|
| I still use AM (and FM) radio. I do not have a car, but sometimes
| use in someone else's car, and I also use it at home; the radio
| is not only for the use in the car.
| notjulianjaynes wrote:
| I can recount from memory nearly every minute in the last like
| 10 years I have spent listening to broadcast AM/FM radio
| outside of a car. Nearly all of them were spent testing new
| stereos. On one occasion I was circuit bending a Casio keyboard
| and randomly stuck an inductor coil somewhere and it
| accidentally made the keyboard an AM radio, Hi Fi Gilligan
| style [1]. I may have been using the tunable capacitor from a
| radio to mess with the clock speed as well.
|
| 1. https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1230840/
| benoau wrote:
| There have however been many major disasters where congestion
| or service impaired or shut down cellular internet access, so
| I think we do still need that lifeline... although I'd rather
| the radios be in cell phones since they're more likely to be
| with you and powered on in a disaster!
| dylan604 wrote:
| > the radio is not only for the use in the car.
|
| this is something that I think is being overlooked.
| hnpolicestate wrote:
| I prefer the way talk sounds through AM vs digital. I realize
| special interests and money is involved but AM radio should
| continue to exist as some emergency communications fallback.
| fmajid wrote:
| And what about buggy whip holders? Will no one think about the
| buggy whips?
| resters wrote:
| I've wondered for a while why cars don't simply ship with a
| tablet sized indentation, and adapters for popular tablets to
| connect an amplified speaker system. It appears the reason is
| because Congress thinks it knows best what type of audio system
| should be in a car.
|
| We live in a world where do United States EV "success story" is
| now protected by 100% tariffs on competitors.
| userbinator wrote:
| This is the most important use of AM radio in cars:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travelers%27_information_stati...
| kmbfjr wrote:
| The issue Congress is missing isn't AM radio, it is the willful
| RFI pollution by Ford and Tesla.
|
| These motors should not be causing the issue because if they
| block AM reception in that car, they'll do it for all cars around
| them.
| Arubis wrote:
| Always worth following the money. Major broadcasters still using
| AM tend to be either sports or right-wing talk.
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