[HN Gopher] The End of Private Libraries?
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       The End of Private Libraries?
        
       Author : pbrowne011
       Score  : 55 points
       Date   : 2024-09-30 13:06 UTC (4 days ago)
        
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       | dmazin wrote:
       | This post is a bit dramatic. My wife and I have 1-2k books. We
       | know multiple people who have such libraries. I don't think
       | they're going anywhere. And this is even though I have a Kindle.
        
         | james-bcn wrote:
         | Agreed. The sale of physical books is as healthy as it ever
         | was. There is no reason to think that private libraries are a
         | thing of the past.
        
         | wpietri wrote:
         | All people are going somewhere. As he writes: "this library and
         | I might share the same dissolution". What you and your wife are
         | doing today isn't evidence against his point. The question is
         | what happens to those books after you die.
         | 
         | I recently did a cross-country move and did some pruning of my
         | books. In thinking about what to keep, I realized that as far
         | as practical considerations go, I could have just scanned the
         | bar codes, made a list, and gotten electronic editions of
         | anything if I ever needed to read it again. I instead kept most
         | of them, but for entirely non-practical reasons.
         | 
         | I think people born today just aren't going to have the same
         | emotional connection to physical books. For me, growing up in
         | an age of information scarcity, they were a gateway to wonders.
         | And even now, like the author, they're a reminder of where I've
         | been, a map to the interior of my head. But I'd be wildly
         | surprised if my teen relatives, many of whom are avid readers,
         | ever built up libraries large enough to be cumbersome.
         | 
         | So when I kick off, I fully expect that my treasured books will
         | be scattered to the winds. If I'm lucky a few will be taken as
         | keepsakes. But as a library, I expect it will die with me.
        
           | newaccount74 wrote:
           | Books are not going away. My kids devour books just like I
           | did when I was a kid. Books can be lent, gifted, borrowed.
           | Books can be discovered in physical places, in the school
           | library, the public library, in a bookstore.
           | 
           | Ebooks just aren't the same.
        
             | organsnyder wrote:
             | All of my kids have received Kobo ereaders when they became
             | proficient at reading. Kobo is owned by the same company as
             | Overdrive, which is our library's e-lending platform, so
             | they can easily check out books themselves.
             | 
             | Each of the kids got their ereader when they were 6-7 years
             | old. Now:
             | 
             | - 13-year-old mostly reads sports news on his phone
             | 
             | - 11-year-old mostly reads paper books, occasionally ebooks
             | on his phone
             | 
             | - 9-year-old can't find her ereader, reads tons of paper
             | books
             | 
             | - 6-year-old just got her ereader and is devouring books on
             | it (which is always the reaction when they first get it)
        
             | wpietri wrote:
             | I'm not saying they're the same. And I am sure some kids
             | favor physical books. But the question for me is the extent
             | to which any of them will spend a lot of effort building
             | and hauling around personal libraries when the digital
             | equivalents are always available. And when it's easy enough
             | to get another paper copy if you're willing to wait a few
             | days.
             | 
             | Some will, I'm sure, the way that some people born after
             | CDs and digital music collect vinyl. But personally I'd
             | guess it'll be a similarly niche interest, just another
             | collector's hobby.
        
             | robocat wrote:
             | My one weird trick - for those you look at second-hand
             | bookstores.
             | 
             | If I see a book I already own that I love, then I buy
             | another copy. Then I can give it away later to someone who
             | I think will appreciate it.
             | 
             | I try not to lend out my favorite books because it is too
             | much trouble to track where they went. Although most people
             | mean well, books don't always boomerang.
        
           | dmazin wrote:
           | My son, 4 years old, himself has > 100 books. So at least
           | some people born today will have a connection to physical
           | books!
           | 
           | I don't disagree that this is probably getting less popular,
           | since of course physical copies used to be the only way to
           | consume them.
           | 
           | > as a library, I expect it will die with me
           | 
           | Yes, I think that is completely true. Why wouldn't it be? I
           | think libraries have always held most value to the collectors
           | themselves. I have a few rare books, but most of the value of
           | my library is personal.
        
             | wpietri wrote:
             | > My son, 4 years old, himself has > 100 books. So at least
             | some people born today will have a connection to physical
             | books!
             | 
             | And people have surely given him lots of stuffed animals
             | too, but it's the rare adult who hauls around a significant
             | collection of them.
             | 
             | > I think libraries have always held most value to the
             | collectors themselves.
             | 
             | In recent years, sure, where books are an affordable and
             | ultimately disposable consumer entertainment. Especially
             | now that you can easily get a used copy of almost any book
             | easily and cheaply. But that's a pretty small slice of
             | "always".
        
       | paulryanrogers wrote:
       | Nostalgia is a powerful thing
        
         | pfdietz wrote:
         | It used to be more powerful. I remember it well...
        
       | posterman wrote:
       | Sounds like consumerism
        
         | yuvalr1 wrote:
         | I would say this is the exact opposite of consumerism. People
         | find a lot of artistic value and intelligence in the books they
         | acquire. The post articulates beautifully how much connection
         | this man has to his books. He does not regret for a moment for
         | buying them, which is the feeling you have when you buy things
         | you don't need. He looks at them and remembers the experience
         | of reading them. This is beautiful and magical, and I can
         | relate to that.
        
           | posterman wrote:
           | The acquisition of books is totally decoupled from the
           | "artistic value" and "intelligence" that reading them
           | proffers. I buy books too, rarely at retail but sometimes,
           | and I make no bones that my desire to do so is as consumerist
           | as anything else I purchase.
        
       | yuvalr1 wrote:
       | I think smaller apartments and lack of storage space might be a
       | driver for buying less books. However, while I do feel modern
       | apartments are smaller, I don't know if this feeling is true.
        
         | rufus_foreman wrote:
         | Huh, I was skeptical but it looks like studios and 1 bedrooms
         | have been getting smaller recently (2 and 3 bedrooms have been
         | getting larger): https://www.rentcafe.com/blog/rental-
         | market/market-snapshots....
         | 
         | "In general, small rentals are getting smaller and large
         | apartments are gaining square feet. More precisely, two- and
         | three-bedroom apartments have been adding more floor space in
         | the last decade, while studios and one-bedroom apartments (the
         | dominating floorplan among new apartments) have been getting
         | more and more compact."
        
       | max_ wrote:
       | I have a 2k epub collection.
       | 
       | My bookworm friends claim it's not a "real" private library
        
         | JadeNB wrote:
         | > I have a 2k epub collection.
         | 
         | > My bookworm friends claim it's not a "real" private private
         | library
         | 
         | As long as it's in an un-DRM'd format where your access to it
         | doesn't require anyone else's permission, it's a real private
         | library. Who cares what anyone else thinks?
        
         | WillAdams wrote:
         | That is one concern I have about a similar collection of Kindle
         | titles --- I'm hoping that having access to the associated
         | e-mail account (the password is on a slip of paper in an
         | envelope in the safe) will allow my son on-going access when I
         | pass away.
        
         | fuzz_junket wrote:
         | Your friends are just poking fun, of course it's a real
         | library. I also have a large number of ebooks (in addition to a
         | 1-2k book physical library) and the ebooks are, paradoxically,
         | less accessible. It's too easy to just download hundreds of
         | books in one go (let's say if you wanted all the original
         | Goosebumps books) and not actually look at them, whereas every
         | physical book has to be obtained and shelved individually. Then
         | ebooks disappear into Calibre where I utterly forget about
         | them, whereas a physical book's presence on the shelf is a
         | constant reminder that it exists and is waiting for me to read
         | it.
        
         | lifefeed wrote:
         | The one downside of ebooks is there's no way to donate them to
         | a library. I have a hundred and something books on the kindle
         | that will never be read again.
         | 
         | Although I guess I don't "own" them, I only license them.
        
       | abeppu wrote:
       | The author talks about how acquiring books reflects their
       | personal story, time spent, interests etc, and then seems sad and
       | surprised that kids don't want their parents' libraries ... But
       | presumably those kids have their own interests and landmarks of
       | their course through life. I fully expect to keep a handful of my
       | parents personal books that I have specific memories of, but
       | keeping the whole of their libraries feels as pointless as
       | keeping all of their furniture or all of their wardrobes (also
       | things that one can spend a lifetime acquiring and spending time
       | with).
        
         | Aeolun wrote:
         | I mean, I might have wanted the furniture I grew up with
         | because of sentimental attachment, but my parents have already
         | overhauled their entire home now that all the kids have left
         | the nest. I care nothing for the new stuff.
        
         | eleveriven wrote:
         | Each person's bookshelf reflects their unique journey
        
         | bhouston wrote:
         | Our grandparents, and great grandparents also had libraries of
         | some type. Most of us have none of those books. Books get out
         | dated quickly, we have different interests, etc.
         | 
         | We prefer to keep things our ancestors created (journals,
         | artwork), awarded (military medals), used in a meaningful way
         | or that represent them (photos.) And because space is limited
         | and we technically have a nearly unlimited number of ancestors,
         | we do not keep much.
        
           | organsnyder wrote:
           | I have a lot of my dad's old library. His first career was as
           | a philosophy professor, and so it's mostly books too specific
           | for me to sustain an interest in (certainly not that many of
           | them). I have the space, so I've been holding on to them, but
           | I really wish I could ask him (he passed away in 2007) which
           | books were dear to him, and why. As it is, a particular book
           | could have landed on his shelves because he got a good deal
           | on it or something.
        
             | sevensor wrote:
             | This is why I've started writing marginalia when I read.
             | It's a conversation with the future, and an explanation of
             | why you should care about the book. If a reader wants a
             | pristine copy, it's easy to come by. For the most part. I'm
             | not going to go marking up a rare book, but then I'm not
             | likely to own one either.
        
               | WillAdams wrote:
               | One of my most treasured books is a translation of
               | Goethe's _Faust_ which has marginal notes from a nun.
        
         | lifefeed wrote:
         | Also by the time a parent dies it's possible those old books
         | are not in great shape. It only takes one mistake for a whole
         | shelf of books to end up damp and musty, and sometimes no one
         | notices how bad it got.
        
         | Ekaros wrote:
         | Looking at their bookshelves... That is a decent wall. And
         | remembering that most of it was in the previous house too and I
         | do not remember them ever taking any of them to read again...
         | Yet they are reading new books. And even got rid of some of
         | them. I see no value for me to keep most of them, apart for
         | them looking nice or maybe picking handful of somewhat more
         | interesting books.
        
       | andersa wrote:
       | You probably have tens of thousands of unnecessary documents and
       | other files hoarded on your computers, right? This seems like
       | much the same thing to me, it's just digital now.
        
       | HKH2 wrote:
       | I can't wait till there are physical books that will let you:
       | 
       | 1. Find words almost straight away.
       | 
       | 2. Change the font and its size.
       | 
       | 3. Change the line spacing.
       | 
       | 4. Scroll and use the top of the screen to keep track of where
       | you are so you don't skip lines.
       | 
       | 5. Have hyperlinks to footnotes. (Edit: I meant endnotes.)
       | 
       | 6. Have bookmarks with labels that don't affect the reading
       | experience.
       | 
       | 7. Jump to chapters immediately.
       | 
       | 8. Hold it the same way, no matter where you are in the book.
       | 
       | 9. Read it discretely.
        
         | ajmurmann wrote:
         | 10. Don't need external light 11. Always only take up the space
         | of a very thin book no matter how many you bring
         | 
         | I have a lot of sentimental feelings for my physical books, but
         | they are just so inconvenient. Sadly, for this reason I only
         | buy reference books in print. I even repurchase books I was
         | gifted physically, as ebooks to actually read them.
        
         | WillAdams wrote:
         | By way of contrast, I want an e-reader which:
         | 
         | - will allow organizing the books _exactly_ was I want (why
         | isn't by percentage read an option, or chronological by date of
         | publication, or timeframe covered)
         | 
         | - allow flipping through pages of a text quickly with a re-
         | draw/re-fresh rate which actually allows reading individual
         | words as I turn pages quickly searching for a specific passage
         | 
         | - allow for a high-quality, detailed reproduction of an image,
         | either in incredibly high resolution with subtle details (like
         | to a printing of a b/w engraving with two black plates) or in
         | full colour (and for extended colour range there was Hexachrome
         | which I wish had become more popular)
         | 
         | - have the same contrast as a piece of paper w/ bright white
         | paper under UV light, or even a Kelmscott Press edition (which
         | has the blackest ink I've ever seen)
         | 
         | - allow _beautiful_ typesetting and will not allow widows and
         | orphans and stacks to occur (in a re-flowable format --- no
         | fair claiming PDFs are ebooks when folks sneer at them as not
         | being ebooks, or presenting a collection of pixel images in a
         | wrapper as an ebook)
         | 
         | Bonus points if the text is actually correct --- I've never
         | read an ebook in which I did not report at least one typo (and
         | that includes _Dune_ ("pogrom" was rendered as "program" and
         | there was an error in the formatting of a glossary entry in the
         | edition which I re-read) --- that said, the ability to directly
         | report errors is nice, and fai r easier than tracking down the
         | editor of a given volume at a given publisher (which reminds
         | me, I need to check for an updated copy of _The Fall of Arthur_
         | by J.R.R. Tolkien to see if the typo I reported has been
         | corrected).
         | 
         | The world would be a better place if authors would take typos
         | as seriously as Donald E. Knuth does and give out reward checks
         | (I have a physical one for $2.88 for his _Digital Typography_
         | --- and need to find a typo in a more recent work so as to have
         | an account at the Bank of the Island of San Serriffe).
        
           | falcolas wrote:
           | Being fair, I've never found a paper book without at least
           | one typo either. Hell, I accidentally bought a paperback on
           | sale that had the last 100 pages replaced with another copy
           | of the previous 100 pages.
        
             | WillAdams wrote:
             | Printed books, esp. older ones had a lot more constraints
             | (print deadline) and don't have the same ability to update
             | the master copy and push the corrections out --- there
             | isn't an excuse for a book which has been continuously in
             | print since 1965 still having a typo in it decades after it
             | was first released as an ebook.
             | 
             | In my experience print editors are far more receptive of
             | being informed of errors than ebook editors --- often an
             | ebook seems not to have had an editor at all, certainly no
             | one proofread the copy of _Space Cadet_ I bought on the
             | Sony ebook store for my Sony PRS-505 --- it was so rife
             | with errors as to be unreadable, and required that I borrow
             | a print edition from a local library so as to be able to
             | send in the corrections.
        
           | HKH2 wrote:
           | I agree with your points; ebooks are not perfect. Thank
           | goodness the flaws you've listed can be fixed.
        
         | kayodelycaon wrote:
         | It would also be nice to able to buy the next book in a series
         | without going to a store or waiting for it to be delivered.
        
         | egypturnash wrote:
         | 5: hyperlinks to footnotes are the worst, you have a tiny, tiny
         | little target to tap that _might_ be inside the much larger
         | area of space which will turn the page when tapped, and usually
         | they are actually to _endnotes_ rather than _footnotes_ -
         | footnotes are at the bottom of the page they are referred to
         | upon, rather than halfway across the book at the end of the
         | chapter.
         | 
         | A _real_ footnote sits at the bottom of the page and is visible
         | the moment you turn the page, alerting you for the tiny little
         | sign pointing to it somewhere in the text.
         | 
         | 9: you can steal the dust jacket from a similarly sized book
         | and cover up the fact that you are reading _Fannie's First
         | Gape_ or whatever else you're embarrassed about, y'know; hell,
         | you could even rip the cover off entirely if it's a paperback
         | and you don't care about the book's condition.
        
           | HKH2 wrote:
           | 9. It's not about being embarrassed. I just don't need
           | discussions about the book that I'm reading or even about the
           | fact that I am reading a book at all.
        
       | sevensor wrote:
       | Stepping into the library of someone who has passed on can be
       | very personal, and confusing. Who were you, that you have 31
       | volumes of Reader's Digest condensed books, shelved next to
       | Josephus, a full matched set of the Waverly novels, a mixed bag
       | of Dorothy Sayers paperbacks, and a nearly complete run of Boy's
       | Life from 1956-1961? I think the most respectful thing you can do
       | with such a collection is to find people who appreciate parts of
       | it, and pass the books on to them.
        
         | 01HNNWZ0MV43FF wrote:
         | It is confusing. My mom had a number of romance novels even
         | though she never struck me as a romantic person. Maybe a phase
         | she had when she was younger? I wish I could have known that
         | version of her, before I was here
        
       | tempaway456456 wrote:
       | Books are like candles, an obsolete technology that we will keep
       | around forever because they look nice and they are good in a
       | power cut (or in the bath)
        
       | redwoolf wrote:
       | Many years in the future, after global warming wrecks our world,
       | when humanity rebuilds civilization, they will be glad for folks
       | like this person. Without physical books there will be no way to
       | reconstruct our time and tell our story. Digital media will be
       | useless to future generations if there's a blip in continuity.
        
         | eleveriven wrote:
         | Surviving artifacts of our culture and knowledge
        
         | JadeNB wrote:
         | > Digital media will be useless to future generations if
         | there's a blip in continuity.
         | 
         | If anything, this undersells it: plenty of not-very-old digital
         | media is useless today with no blip in continuity, either
         | because of bit rot or, more commonly, because of perfectly good
         | data in a format for which there don't exist readers any more.
        
           | bluGill wrote:
           | Don't forget too that it is some form of subscription and the
           | owners decided not to continue keeping that in your
           | subscription.
        
             | JadeNB wrote:
             | That's true; there are a lot of reasons not to rely
             | passively on digital media for archival purposes. But I'm
             | speaking here even of digital media from the lost, pre-
             | cloud, pre-SAAS age when one could loosely presume to own
             | at least what was on one's computer, but (therefore?) there
             | was no institutional interest in keeping the large variety
             | of media readable. (For example, I joined the Mac ecosystem
             | not long after they switched away from SITX compression,
             | and almost immediately it became--at least for a new user--
             | impossible to find uncompressors.)
        
       | loughnane wrote:
       | Head over to r/bookshelfdetective and you'll see a bunch of folks
       | hyped to share their libraries with the world. Maybe such folk
       | are a dwindling but more vocal crowd. Maybe not.
       | 
       | Numbers aside, this line makes me think OP is missing the point:
       | 
       | > I bought the book because I like having a visual, tangible
       | record of the time this book and I spent together. I like
       | scanning my shelves and seeing proof of a rich reading life.
       | 
       | If this is why you have books (I've heard them called "audiobook-
       | trophies" or "kindle-trophies"), you're missing out on what a
       | library can do for you. A library kept in OP's way shows how many
       | books he's got through. What matters his how many books get
       | through him. The proof of a good reading life is inside you. It's
       | not furniture for your living room.
       | 
       | What is a good library then if not a trophy case? It's got books
       | that you go back to again and again. It's got books you've not
       | read yet but whose spines reminds you of gaps in what you know.
       | It's aimed at the long-term, a collection of pages whose text
       | will never reflow or get a pushed update. It's markings won't
       | change, letting you have a talk with your older self.
       | 
       | I have many audiobooks and ebooks, and they're better at some
       | things than physical books. Still, what a hard drive can't do
       | what a personal library can.
        
         | Aeolun wrote:
         | I think there are as many opinions on what makes a good library
         | as there are people. There isn't just one answer.
        
           | bluGill wrote:
           | Just make sure you know what it is for you and don't mess
           | with someone else's. My sister in law and wife organized my
           | bookshelf by color and size ones - it looks much better than
           | way I'll admit, but now fiction and non fiction are mixed,
           | and sets of books are not together, and so for what I care
           | about it was worse.
        
           | loughnane wrote:
           | Good point. It seems the question is what are they trying to
           | accomplish with the library?
           | 
           | OP knows what he's trying to do (remind himself of past books
           | and evidence of reading life), and yet he feels disenchanted
           | if I read the tone right. If that's the case it's a tacit
           | admission that he _wanted_ the wrong thing and could learn to
           | want something better.
           | 
           | That's not a big deal, part of growing is learning to like
           | the things that bring you the most fulfillment. I can't tell
           | him what's best, all I can tell him is what I think is more
           | likely to bring fulfillment and my reasoning.
           | 
           | I'd love to hear other opinions on what's good and why.
        
       | eleveriven wrote:
       | This beautifully captures the bittersweet reality of book lovers
       | in a digital age
        
       | ricksunny wrote:
       | For folks clearing out the parents' library, consider a donation
       | to the Bibliotheca Alexandrina in Alexandria, Egypt (yes, the one
       | built to replace the famous one of old). But before that, figure
       | out how to collect, accumulate, & ship books to the library in a
       | way that is sufficiently low cost, somehow funded by donors, and
       | in a way that tbe library signals a priori that it is willing to
       | sift through on-site (and for which it signals it exert influence
       | on the import authorities). b/c despite its symbolic imoortabce,
       | the library has a _lot_ of empty shelfspace now two+ decades
       | after its opening.
       | 
       | What the new library has in spades is prodigious fire-suppression
       | technologies, so choose books you feel deserve special
       | preservation into posterity.
        
       | VoodooJuJu wrote:
       | Good riddance to this kind of library. His relationship with his
       | private library is the same as most people's: an outlet for
       | comfortable consumerism, materialism, and nostalgia.
       | 
       | What he needed was an antilibrary:
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antilibrary
       | 
       | The mysterious unread tomes of an antilibrary taunt you and
       | beckon to be read, but not necessarily re-read. The untrodden
       | path holds more adventure than the beaten one, where the treasure
       | has already been claimed. Books in an antilibrary are quests
       | filling up your log, the rewards of yet unknown, possibly great.
        
       | kylec wrote:
       | The lament of collecting something of great personal value, which
       | is of value to no one else, reminds me of my photo collection:
       | over 100,000 photos taken over decades, which I absolutely
       | cherish, that are completely worthless to anyone but me, or the
       | people contained within them (who I have usually already shared
       | the relevant photos with). Perhaps it's no accident that the
       | common term for a personal collection of photos is a photo
       | _library_.
        
         | niemandhier wrote:
         | You never know. When an old neighbour passed away his kids gave
         | us his prized collection of photographic slides. Images he had
         | taken over course of 30+ years as a construction engineer
         | working all over the world.
         | 
         | Those were beautiful images of countries that do not exist
         | anymore, at some point we realised that he had spent a lot of
         | time building underground concrete structures in the Middle
         | East and handed the images over to a nice gentile man at the
         | local military base.
         | 
         | Maybe they were useful maybe not, but at least they were looked
         | at again.
        
       | strken wrote:
       | I wish more people gave their books away slowly during their
       | lives, instead of all at once upon their death. It's a much nicer
       | way to inherit them and it lets you share the experience with the
       | inheritors.
        
         | hansvm wrote:
         | I think that's fairly commonplace. Books just enter the library
         | even faster. Reversing the flow direction might be challenging,
         | since most people who know when they're going to die don't
         | usually have much time to get their affairs in order.
        
       | mihaaly wrote:
       | I love having a wall of books and the time spent on reading
       | books.
       | 
       | Unluckily I do not have either of those. The never ending
       | competition between society memebers for better position and more
       | stuff to show sucked me in too, making me move for better places
       | to compete others and do things much quicker and doing more
       | things - in unit of time and overall too. All those moves made
       | the collection of my books go way down to be a sad excuse of
       | personal library. It is a short shelf. The same cruel race took
       | time away from reading too. I should have enjoyed life more than
       | participating this stupid and on the end futile race called
       | career. Let others trying to disrupt the f world along
       | pretentious figments. It did not worth it, not at all. What
       | worths to live for is elsewhere. Partly in reading books and
       | having a good personal library.
        
         | safety1st wrote:
         | Well, you have the right to decorate your home however you
         | please, and I am of the view that it should be decorated with
         | objects that are meaningful to you. That can certainly include
         | a shelf or a case of books.
         | 
         | Some years ago I moved to a different continent and the
         | distances being what they were I had to sell off my book
         | collection. This year I resolved to rejuvenate my reading
         | habit, which had decayed since phones and social media were
         | introduced into my life (along with my attention span).
         | 
         | I decided that for the remainder of my life I would buy one
         | quality hardcover book per year as a birthday gift to myself. I
         | read ebooks, they have their merits, but there are books which
         | are truly exceptional works and which have had a profound
         | impact on my life, which I will undoubtedly benefit from re-
         | reading over the years. It feels entirely appropriate for these
         | books to be displayed prominently in my home as reminders of
         | who I am, how I got here, and to always be at my fingertips in
         | case I want to reference them. There will be some sort of
         | meaningful memory, achievement or milestone associated with
         | each one of those books. For all the rest, there's Kindle.
        
           | Kon-Peki wrote:
           | > I would buy one quality hardcover book per year as a
           | birthday gift to myself
           | 
           | Care to give an example? I assume that by quality you mean
           | both quality construction of the book itself as well as
           | quality content printed on the page?
        
             | LegitShady wrote:
             | it doesn't really matter, does it? its whatever they
             | consider quality. You would use your own definition if you
             | wanted to do the same. I collect certain kinds of art
             | books, and fantasy novels. If you liked something else,
             | like computer science academic books, you could collect
             | those. It's up to your own definition and style.
        
               | Kon-Peki wrote:
               | Does it matter? No, it really doesn't. I'm just curious,
               | as someone who has a few hundred books sitting around the
               | house, plus another 20-50 checked out from the library at
               | any one time.
               | 
               | I don't know that I'd consider much of any books I own to
               | be "quality". But the house I have does have a fairly
               | nice built-in bookshelf that could probably hold 500
               | books all by itself. Someday I'll fill it, maybe? With
               | mass-market paperbacks and hardbacks? "Quality" books?
               | Who knows!
        
       | simpaticoder wrote:
       | Private libraries are the privilege of those who do not move
       | frequently, or at all. A large library is surprisingly heavy and
       | bulky to move, and each time you move you will be tempted to
       | leave something behind. If the odds of leaving it behind are even
       | 5% then over time the odds approach 100%. That said, the physical
       | copy of a book has its own story, the dog-eared pages and cracked
       | spines, the occasional stain. I personally somehow find myself
       | remembering which side of a book something was on, and roughly
       | how far through. Very handy since it reduces the search space
       | immediately by 2, at least. And of course, you get all the
       | benefits of messy, imprecise search - the joy of finding
       | something new. Plus you can easily lend them or give them away,
       | and they can't be remotely deleted.
       | 
       | The OP writes as if ebooks and paper books (and audio books!)
       | live in perfect zero-sum disharmony. It seems like most
       | inventions have this effect on discourse. This is more a comment
       | on the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gartner_hype_cycle than
       | anything. In this case, I think large paper libraries will tend
       | to dwindle, but not disappear. Much like how accurate music
       | recording and playback caused live music to dwindle, but not
       | disappear, etc.
        
         | falcolas wrote:
         | Moving is exactly how my wall of books went down to a device
         | full of books.
         | 
         | As much as I cherished those books when I first read them, many
         | never made it to a second reading. And the feelings the
         | physical books evoked has faded over years. So they were
         | donated to a library, so that another person may build their
         | own memories and feelings.
         | 
         | Plus, I'd be up to three walls now with all the books I have on
         | my device, let alone those I've read on KU.
        
         | dmazin wrote:
         | Having moved a ton of books multiple times, they are definitely
         | bad. But not nearly as bad as records, where boxes that fit
         | well are expensive, and you have to worry about them getting
         | damaged whether from heat or pressure!
        
       | TexanFeller wrote:
       | My personal library has grown massively in the last few years. I
       | have a few rooms with the walls covered with textbooks and
       | deluxe/limited editions of classic works. They're very comforting
       | to look at, at least when I'm not stepping over piles of books in
       | the floor.
        
       | ks2048 wrote:
       | I thought the title meant "the era of private libraries is over",
       | but it's really about "the end-of-life of my private library". As
       | a physical book lover, I empathize.
        
       | physicsguy wrote:
       | I used to buy lots and lots of physical books.
       | 
       | When I had a child though it forced me to downsize since the
       | bedroom with four bookshelves became a kids room. I had to reckon
       | with 'Why am I holding on to this specific book?' and in many
       | cases I just couldn't answer that question. Now I'm very picky
       | about what I do acquire because I don't have the space to expand
       | much without pushing other things out.
        
       | lmaoguy wrote:
       | You will own nothing and be happy.
        
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