[HN Gopher] Two AI review your favourite movie scripts (NotebookLM)
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Two AI review your favourite movie scripts (NotebookLM)
Author : judgementday
Score : 18 points
Date : 2024-10-03 17:42 UTC (5 hours ago)
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| CSMastermind wrote:
| I don't think the technology in its current form is useful for
| reviews.
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| I just gushes about everything.
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| I can't imagine it thoughtfully critiquing things.
| lunatuna wrote:
| This is what most podcasts do though. The review of 'Alien'
| sounded like Armchair expert and The Big Picture all rolled
| into one. Lots of gushing there. Hard to find good movie
| critics. If I could get something like Video Archives for all
| my movies that would be cool. Interesting future if you could
| replicate Tarantino and Avary. In the end it could sound like
| and fool you, but there is now way it could put together all of
| the personal conversations Tarantino and Avary have had with
| big swaths of Hollywood.
|
| I'm just amazed though how well they nailed the sound of it
| all. The back and forth, the layer of one speaking over another
| at the right time, each sounding like your average podcast host
| in that light style. But the content sucked.
| suprjami wrote:
| That's just the NotebookLM prompt. It is theoretically possible
| to write a prompt which generates more critical podcasts.
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| However nobody wants to upload their resume to a podcast
| generator and hear "Gee that's a bad industry, kinda wasted
| years on your life there" or something like that.
|
| I hate how patronising these things are too. I tell them to
| forget that and just provide factual short answers.
| FrustratedMonky wrote:
| I clicked on Gladiator.
|
| Is this really all AI???? This whole Gladiator Podcast?
|
| I can't tell, it is totally believable.
|
| Really, this is too good, can this be confirmed if it is AI or
| not?
| infecto wrote:
| Yes its notebooklm.
| FrustratedMonky wrote:
| So all text and voices? An AI is doing both sides of
| conversation, just off the cuff from reading the script?
|
| This is amazing.
| brrrrrm wrote:
| yea. everything. try it out (point it at a website or
| something)
| pertymcpert wrote:
| Yeah I have a hard time believing this. Even OpenAI's
| voices don't sound this natural with the pauses in the
| speech.
| FrustratedMonky wrote:
| Maybe because the OpenAI App where you talk to it is
| responding in Realtime.
|
| But the NotebookLM is like a recorded pod-cast, so it can
| think about it before laying down a track?
| pertymcpert wrote:
| Ok, so on further thought I think I can tell that they're
| AI now. But it's subtle. The pace of the conversation is
| just a bit too quick for natural human speech. They're
| talking about history but the female voice especially, is
| very quick to respond with points as soon as the male voice
| is finished. It's clear that the AI doesn't factor in the
| time it takes for someone to think momentarily and
| formulate a thought.
| FrustratedMonky wrote:
| Funny that it is too smooth, quick, and adding a pause
| might be more realistic.
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| But also, some people talk fast.
|
| They'd have to add some random pausing.
| pertymcpert wrote:
| It's not so much the speed of the speech itself. The
| speech sounds natural and there are natural sounding
| inflections. But the gap between the speakers is almost
| nonexistent. It's quite exhausting to listen to because
| your own brain is trying to think about the content but
| there's no time to do it in parallel with the hosts,
| since they're not actually thinking.
| FrustratedMonky wrote:
| I'm not seeing any voice options on NotebookLM.
|
| Did notebooklm produce the text, and then they had real
| people read it out loud?
| suprjami wrote:
| You upload a document then click the Generate Podcast
| button.
| cush wrote:
| Definitely too good! The only way I can tell they're AIs is
| they don't pause or hesitate in their banter. Their ability to
| talk without thinking is uncanny.
| xena wrote:
| I hate that podcast spam is being industrialized now. Makes me
| doubt if I should continue with Xecast.
| pizzathyme wrote:
| Wild to think we are at the final moments in human history when
| most art, writing, video, entertainment, speeches were created
| by humans. Soon the majority will be AI-created, and it will
| stay that way.
| nonameiguess wrote:
| I somewhat doubt that. In many cases, the humanity is the
| entire point. Racing is a great example. Both horses and cars
| are faster than humans and have been for a long time. We have
| horse races and car races. We still also have human races.
| They didn't get replaced. Fandom just split, though I'm sure
| a lot of people are entertained by all of them. People still
| go to see cover bands when the Chuck E. Cheese band playing
| over a karaoke track has been just as "good" for decades if
| all you care about is sounding like the real thing. We still
| watch human combat sports even though lions are better
| fighters and robots probably are, too.
| crop_rotation wrote:
| People give the same example in chess that we still watch
| people playing chess.
|
| However that is beside the point. In both race and chess we
| want to know/reward the best human. People don't listen to
| podcasts to reward anyone or to find the best podcaster. So
| listening to a random podcast that appeals to you is much
| easier than watching stockfish vs Alpha go. The things you
| are describing are activities undertaken by very few for a
| living and are very binary. Most things are not like that
| and are much more likely to be disrupted by LLM spam.
| andoando wrote:
| Eh it depends entirely on what people enjoy. If AI makes
| genuinely good entertaining content, it will make human
| content relatively niche
| preommr wrote:
| Not anymore wild than people flying, television, computers,
| etc. For all of human history, except for the last century,
| things like art were time consuming, difficult to spread,
| available to a select few and just altogether a different
| world. I would say that generative AI is in the same category
| as photography and digital art (e.g. photoshop).
| suprjami wrote:
| I've listened to a few NotebookLM podcasts and I've had my
| fill.
|
| Meanwhile I have dozens of human generated podcast
| subscriptions and even pay for some.
|
| Hopefully that gives you an idea of the value seen in good
| human-curated content specific to interests.
| slg wrote:
| Generative AI "art" is bad enough, but generative AI art
| criticism just feels nonsensical to me. An AI can't experience a
| work of art or have thoughts about it. It is just imitating
| someone who can. What is the point of that?
| sammyteee wrote:
| The first episode I clicked on (it was for In Bruges) refered to
| the film as "The play".
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| Glad to see it's ready for production!
| scudsworth wrote:
| the voice synthesis is decent but that's about it. despite some
| phrasing intended to seem banter-like, its also obviously not
| humans talking. i tapped out at one minute of the in bruges
| discussion, which was completely idiotic. they managed to
| pronounce bruges correctly once in that minute.
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