[HN Gopher] In Mexico's underwater caves, a glimpse of artifacts...
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       In Mexico's underwater caves, a glimpse of artifacts, fossils and
       human remains
        
       Author : pseudolus
       Score  : 43 points
       Date   : 2024-10-02 20:36 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | petesergeant wrote:
       | How do you make cave diving scarier? Skulls. Turns out the answer
       | is half-buried human skulls.
        
         | temp0826 wrote:
         | Been living in the Yucatan the last couple of years. The Mayans
         | believe that cenotes are gateways to the underworld, so it's
         | kinda on point. When people are having bad luck (injuries etc)
         | and there is one nearby, they will pray and make offerings to
         | the spirits that inhabit them. And if that doesn't work they
         | will fire guns into them to scare them away.
        
       | sparrish wrote:
       | Such amazing photography of those underwater caves.
        
       | lxe wrote:
       | That photography... wow!
        
         | pnw wrote:
         | More here: https://www.martinbroen.com/#/cave-exploration/
        
           | hansoolo wrote:
           | That's completely insane and... Beautiful!
        
       | throwup238 wrote:
       | Anyone visiting the Yucatan peninsula should take a day to go
       | swimming in a cenote. It's a magical experience even without
       | diving into the underwater caves (they have some scary signs with
       | warnings about that).
       | 
       |  _> There's a symbiotic relationship between the passionate and
       | technical cave explorers who investigate every hole in a cave in
       | their free time (and just for fun) and those in the scientific
       | community who want to study these prehistoric materials but
       | cannot reach where they're hidden in the underwater darkness._
       | 
       | The lack of cavers in general is becoming a bigger and bigger
       | problem in archaeology and paleoanthropology. Since a lot of
       | archaic human species were quite a bit smaller, they managed to
       | make very elaborate caves their home that are hard for the
       | average adult to navigate. Underwater archaeology is still in its
       | infancy so the training isn't explicitly part of anyone's
       | education.
       | 
       | Last year there was a story [1] on the front page about research
       | into _Homo naledi_ in the Rising Star Cave [2] that was only made
       | possible because they were able to find six petite
       | paleoanthropologists cavers who were able to fit through a
       | "vertically oriented 'chimney' or 'chute' measuring 12 m (39 ft)
       | long with an average width of 20 cm (7.9 in)" to the Dinaledi
       | room in the back of the cave. They found 1,500 human bones there
       | and still have a lot left to excavate.
       | 
       | [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36344397
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       | [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rising_Star_Cave
        
         | Bufgaric wrote:
         | Diving in the cenotes is pretty damn awesome though! You just
         | have to make sure to dive the ones that have been explored and
         | have designated routes. My third and fourth dives after getting
         | my open water certification were in cenotes around Playa Del
         | Carmen and that experience was just mind blowing. Would love to
         | do it again.
        
       | aegypti wrote:
       | _A well-known example is the figure of a woman at the entrance of
       | Cenote Dos Ojos; while it was not sculpted as such, it is a
       | carefully selected speleothem that resembles the silhouette of a
       | woman and was intentionally exhibited on a pedestal to decorate
       | the cave entrance, evidence of paleoart from more than 8,000
       | years ago that anyone can visit._
       | 
       | Are there any images of this?
        
       | api wrote:
       | Caves like these always make me think of what might be beneath
       | the surface of Mars, Europa, or many other bodies in the solar
       | system with sub-surface oceans.
        
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