[HN Gopher] Open-Source Flipper Zero Firmware: Unlock Your Devic...
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       Open-Source Flipper Zero Firmware: Unlock Your Device's Full
       Potential
        
       Author : ByteSurge
       Score  : 30 points
       Date   : 2024-09-29 21:28 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (github.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (github.com)
        
       | metadat wrote:
       | What does this unlock that the standard stock Flipper Zero does
       | not?
        
         | pnw wrote:
         | Nothing. This is the official firmware repo.
        
           | metadat wrote:
           | Then why does it say "Unlock"? Nothing burger?
        
       | andkenneth wrote:
       | I feel like every time this device shows up I need to yell from
       | the rooftops how dangerous(and illegal) some of the wifi and
       | Bluetooth attacks can be. Even if it's totally baffling WHY any
       | safety critical devices including industrial cranes and
       | pacemakers have consumer radios in them, that doesn't make you
       | less responsible when you crash tons of metal into someones skull
       | or stop someone's heart.
       | 
       | Cool device, and I'm not saying it should be illegal or anything,
       | but I've met people who have zero clue with these devices and
       | it's a bit scary.
        
         | gjsman-1000 wrote:
         | If that is true (and I'm from the US); I remind myself about
         | how if there are just 50,000 trained agents in that haystack of
         | 2M+ illegal crossings every year from a country that hates us
         | (to clarify, China, North Korea, Russia through Mexico) we
         | could be so screwed. 500 agents for each of the top 100 cities,
         | with tools that make Flipper look like a toy.
        
           | aftbit wrote:
           | It is certainly possible for a small group to cause
           | disproportionate harm. Physical access is a powerful tool.
           | 
           | Then again, what is worse than a small group who hates? A
           | large group who doesn't care.
        
           | morpheuskafka wrote:
           | > 2M+ illegal crossings every year from a country that hates
           | us
           | 
           | Huh? Since when does Mexico hate America? Many Mexicans like
           | visiting America for shopping and sightseeing, which is why
           | over 2.3M were issued visitor visas in 2023 alone. Mexicans
           | living in American tend to be very hardworking and friendly.
           | Also, I thought most of the people crossing illegally are
           | originally coming from points south of Mexico?
        
             | gjsman-1000 wrote:
             | No, there's another 2M _illegal_ entries per year in
             | addition to the 2M+ authorized crossings.
             | 
             | https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wt91pxCd0qA&pp=ygUZc3RldmUgYm
             | F...
        
               | Larrikin wrote:
               | So seems like America is very popular and there isn't
               | some universal hate in Mexico.
        
               | gjsman-1000 wrote:
               | You aren't very creative. I'm talking about if China, or
               | North Korea, did smuggling as part of the masses
               | deliberately through Mexico.
        
         | thorwaway48583 wrote:
         | The responsibility remains squarely with the people who
         | developed these devices and the people who give it FCC
         | approval.
         | 
         | Devices shouldn't malfunction and handle interference
         | gracefully. It is an FCC certification requirement and that
         | requirement includes any interference.
        
           | CJefferson wrote:
           | I don't think that is either legally, or morally, true.
           | 
           | Sure, it would be better if devices weren't broken by attack
           | attempts, but if you are purposefully trying to attack
           | something, you are to blame for your attack succeeding?
        
           | jsheard wrote:
           | A device may be required to not _malfunction_ due to
           | interference, but it can 't be required to _function_ in the
           | presence of interference because that 's a technical
           | impossibility if the interference is strong enough to
           | overpower the intended signal. That's why there are laws
           | which say that if you use something like the Flipper as an RF
           | jammer (which is possible with custom firmware) then angry
           | feds might show up at your house.
        
             | wezdog1 wrote:
             | For medical devices, lack of function would be malfunction
        
         | aftbit wrote:
         | Yeah but less scary than a teenager driving a car.
        
       | scottlawson wrote:
       | The page mentions improvements but I can't tell from the main
       | readme what is the advantage over the stock firmware, which I
       | found to be quite nice for my personal use.
        
         | godelski wrote:
         | https://github.com/flipperdevices/flipperzero-
         | firmware/commits/dev/
         | 
         | (Edit: add two spaces so full url shows because HN parses)
        
         | pnw wrote:
         | This is just the official repo for the stock firmware. Last
         | update 3 weeks ago for 1.0.1.
        
         | toxicdevil wrote:
         | Its the stock firmware. You can find the changelog here:
         | 
         | https://github.com/flipperdevices/flipperzero-firmware/relea...
         | 
         | or more details here:
         | 
         | https://github.com/flipperdevices/flipperzero-firmware/compa...
        
       | aftbit wrote:
       | Is this just a newer release of the Stock firmware, or is it a
       | custom branch?
        
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