[HN Gopher] Clever, Brave, Persistent
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       Clever, Brave, Persistent
        
       Author : 1penny42cents
       Score  : 17 points
       Date   : 2024-09-29 18:34 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | disambiguation wrote:
       | Maybe. I've found the type of parents and upbringing you had to
       | be more predictive of life outcomes than any personality or
       | virtue assessment.
        
       | bbor wrote:
       | I wonder: is there anything more predictive of success than being
       | clever, brave, and persistent?
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       | Yes: wealth. That's just an empirical fact, even if it's an
       | uncomfortable one that doesn't help with individual ambition. If
       | you think it's tough for a poor malnourished kid with a single
       | parent and bad schools to become a successful entrepreneur in
       | America, you should see how tough it is for a kid born into a
       | poor malnourished _nation_.
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       | I also don't buy the skill-will distinction at all, especially
       | since they eventually say matters of will can be "practiced more
       | intentionally". The bones are there, but the details are kinda
       | arbitrarily determined by ideological bias IMO. I think the
       | author would love modern psychology lit on "Executive
       | Functioning", has a lot to say about how often a typical human is
       | able to choose to will something!
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       | Good article otherwise. Provocatively written, and refreshingly
       | concise - def made me think. Also, obviously, inspiring!
        
         | rich_sasha wrote:
         | I'd add two more:
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         | 1. Luck. Plenty of lucky successful people out there. Not to
         | say only luck gets you there, or that luck alone is always
         | enough, but it makes a massive difference.
         | 
         | 2. Lack of understanding of risk. Probably not an overall good
         | thing, but a common thing among successful people (IME). Quite
         | often the backstory involves some hideously crazy risks the
         | person took at some point that paid off, but the cost of
         | failure would have been unbearable.
        
           | Modified3019 wrote:
           | And to that last point, we don't hear about everyone who took
           | the same risks and failed miserably.
        
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