[HN Gopher] NotebookLM is quite powerful and worth playing with
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NotebookLM is quite powerful and worth playing with
Author : bilsbie
Score : 42 points
Date : 2024-09-29 17:22 UTC (5 hours ago)
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| throw310822 wrote:
| > Imo LLM capability (IQ, but also memory (context length),
| multimodal, etc.) is getting way ahead of the UIUX of packaging
| it into products.
|
| Which means: LLMS are evolving faster than we are inventing ways
| of incorporating them into products. Thus all real-world impacts
| of LLMs lag behind their current state and capabilities by a
| margin that is possibly even getting larger with time.
| 3abiton wrote:
| In other words, lots of unexplored potential.
| belter wrote:
| Also on long winding subtly weaved security attacks.
| OutOfHere wrote:
| notebooklm.google.com looks to be an evolution of
| illuminate.google.com.
|
| Strictly speaking, two-voice conversations are slightly
| overrated. A single voice, akin to a lecture rather than a
| discussion, is no worse, and is quite sufficient for conveying
| information. Either approach does the job.
|
| The downloaded audio file extension is wav, implying that it's
| not compressed, but this is a minor quirk.
| lupire wrote:
| "two person podcast" format is very similar to the extremely
| popular "FAQ" format.
| OutOfHere wrote:
| Between a lecture vs an FAQ, I don't think there is any clear
| winner.
| lupire wrote:
| Tweet content:
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| NotebookLM is quite powerful and worth playing with
| https://notebooklm.google
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| It is a bit of a re-imagination of the UIUX of working with LLMs
| organized around a collection of sources you upload and then
| refer to with queries, seeing results alongside and with
| citations.
|
| But the current most new/impressive feature (that is surprisingly
| hidden almost as an afterthought) is the ability to generate a
| 2-person podcast episode based on any content you upload. For
| example someone took my "bitcoin from scratch" post from a long
| time ago: https://karpathy.github.io/2021/06/21/blockchain/ and
| converted it to podcast, quite impressive:
| https://notebooklm.google.com/notebook/ba017fec-7068-4085-97...
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| You can podcastify _anything_. I give it train_gpt2.c (C code
| that trains GPT-2):
| https://github.com/karpathy/llm.c/blob/master/train_gpt2.c and
| made a podcast about that:
| https://notebooklm.google.com/notebook/2585c187-b059-475a-b4... I
| don't know if I'd exactly agree with the framing of the
| conversation and the emphasis or the descriptions of layernorm
| and matmul etc but there's hints of greatness here and in any
| case it's highly entertaining.
|
| Imo LLM capability (IQ, but also memory (context length),
| multimodal, etc.) is getting way ahead of the UIUX of packaging
| it into products. Think Code Interpreter, Claude Artifacts,
| Cursor/Replit, NotebookLM, etc. I expect (and look forward to) a
| lot more and different paradigms of interaction than just chat.
|
| That's what I think is ultimately so compelling about the
| 2-person podcast format as a UIUX exploration. It lifts two major
| "barriers to enjoyment" of LLMs. 1 Chat is hard. You don't know
| what to say or ask. In the 2-person podcast format, the question
| asking is also delegated to an AI so you get a lot more chill
| experience instead of being a synchronous constraint in the
| generating process. 2 Reading is hard and it's much easier to
| just lean back and listen.
| vitorgrs wrote:
| I just tried the podcast generation, and got surprised! Sadly
| English only, but I gave a Portuguese link to it, and it did
| well...
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