[HN Gopher] EVinci nuclear microreactor moves towards commercial...
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       EVinci nuclear microreactor moves towards commercialization
        
       Author : peutetre
       Score  : 22 points
       Date   : 2024-09-26 14:39 UTC (8 hours ago)
        
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       | atomic128 wrote:
       | Reactors like this (and like Bill Gates' Natrium reactor) use
       | HALEU (high-assay low-enriched uranium) which is above 19%
       | fissile (U-235), compared to the usual 5% or 6% in a large
       | pressurized water reactor (e.g.,
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AP1000).
       | 
       | For comparison, a nuclear bomb or military microreactor (on a
       | submarine, for example) uses fuel that's 90%+ fissile. This
       | difference in fissile concentration is the reason why non-
       | military nuclear reactors can never explode like a nuclear bomb.
       | 
       | The bottleneck for nuclear energy is the yellowcake. This is the
       | uranium that comes out of the ground, which is 0.7% fissile and
       | must be enriched. A pound of HALEU requires many pounds of
       | yellowcake. Conversion and enrichment are also in short supply
       | today, but the centrifuges can be built.
       | 
       | There is a profound near-term undersupply of this natural uranium
       | due to the fact that the mining companies were allowed to die
       | after Fukushima. The mining companies died due to low uranium
       | prices: $16 per pound at the market bottom.
       | 
       | The two big miners that survived (Cameco and Kazatomprom) are
       | together unable to increase supply to match demand. Big new
       | mines, like NexGen's, are years away, and the supply they provide
       | will not close the supply/demand gap. Mining uranium is slow and
       | difficult, even if you have access to good ore.
       | 
       | Alternative sources of uranium are even more expensive to exploit
       | (seawater, phosphate deposits, etc.).
       | 
       | If you want to benefit (monetarily) from nuclear energy, and
       | you're willing to suffer through the EXTREME volatility of owning
       | a niche commodity, one way is through the Sprott Physical Uranium
       | Trust (ticker: SRUUF) which owns 65 million pounds of uranium
       | oxide and purchases more whenever it trades above Net Asset
       | Value. WARNING: this is not an investment for the faint of heart.
       | YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
       | 
       | You can watch the spot uranium market (intra-day bid/ask) here:
       | https://numerco.com/NSet/aCNSet.html
       | 
       | You can see the uranium long-term contract price (and spot
       | uranium price) monthly history at Cameco's website here:
       | https://www.cameco.com/invest/markets/uranium-price
        
       | killingtime74 wrote:
       | Given the extensive security requirements for nuclear and the
       | cost of this reactor itself, I struggle to see how it can be cost
       | effective compared to renewables or even a diesel generator.
       | Discussions on hacker News, which is very pro nuclear always tend
       | to emphasise the technical advantages and neglect economic
       | considerations.
        
         | atomic128 wrote:
         | Hacker News tends to be pro-solar, pro-wind, and anti-nuclear.
         | 
         | Discussions on Hacker News tend to overlook the unreliable
         | nature of intermittent solar and wind power sources.
         | 
         | The hidden costs of solar and wind are also overlooked: cost of
         | land, cost of transmission infrastructure, cost of battery
         | storage, short lifespan of the hardware, the requirement for
         | fossil fuel backup generators, etc.
         | 
         | Here's Yann LeCun (Vice-President, Chief AI Scientist at Meta)
         | describing the advantages of nuclear versus solar/wind in a
         | different, larger-scale context:                 AI datacenters
         | will be built next to energy production sites that can produce
         | gigawatt-scale, low-cost, low-emission electricity
         | continuously.            Basically, next to nuclear power
         | plants.            The advantage is that there is no need for
         | expensive and wasteful       long-distance distribution
         | infrastructure.            Note: yes, solar and wind are nice
         | and all, but they require lots of land       and massive-scale
         | energy storage systems for when there is too little sun
         | and/or wind. Neither simple nor cheap.
         | 
         | Link to LeCun's comment on X here, along with a discussion of
         | why solar/wind aren't enough:
         | 
         | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41621097
         | 
         | The same is true on smaller scales.
        
         | foxyv wrote:
         | Most of the security around nuclear reactors is to prevent
         | disruption of critical power infrastructure and barring access
         | to spent fuel rods. This design would need far less security
         | since it is sealed and not a huge plant that would cut power to
         | half the USA if destroyed.
         | 
         | Stealing one of these would be pretty pointless. It would be
         | far easier to get much more dangerous isotopes from one of the
         | thousands of hospitals that use such things or a laboratory.
         | The 20% enrichment is not enough to produce viable weapons
         | either. Uranium enrichment has just gotten way too easy with
         | new centrifuge designs.
         | 
         | Applications are mostly stuff like Antarctic research projects
         | and remote oil fields. Also, if it is approved for such uses,
         | it could power a container ship saving huge amounts of money on
         | diesel fuel which is about half their operating cost.
        
         | throwawayffffas wrote:
         | You could have multiple reactors at the same site. Like 100 for
         | example.
        
       | BMc2020 wrote:
       | Can someone knowledgeable tell me what happens if you blow it up?
        
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