[HN Gopher] I have 2000 old VHS tapes in my garage and I don't k...
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       I have 2000 old VHS tapes in my garage and I don't know what to do
       with them
        
       Author : keybits
       Score  : 66 points
       Date   : 2024-09-25 08:19 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | keybits wrote:
       | Includes a fascinating story of how teletext images can be
       | recovered from VHS recordings using a TV capture card.
        
       | brunoqc wrote:
       | Drop them in front of the Red Letter Media warehouse in the
       | middle of the night.
        
       | Molitor5901 wrote:
       | eBay! My brother used to tape bicycle races and has hundreds of
       | them. He's been blanking them and selling them on eBay for about
       | $5 each.
        
         | roywiggins wrote:
         | I somehow think that may be the exact opposite of what the
         | author is going for...
        
           | Molitor5901 wrote:
           | True but at some point.. unless someone takes them off his
           | hands he's going to have to face a decision. Better to
           | recycle and sell them, than toss them in the bin.
        
         | metalman wrote:
         | 2000 vhs tapes on the wall 2000 vhs tapes take one down pass it
         | around 1999 vhs tapes on the wall
        
         | dylan604 wrote:
         | I used to work in a VHS duplication facility, and spent plenty
         | of time with a degausser to erase tapes. Not a fond memory.
         | Plus, if you forgot about your wallet, you could ruin your
         | credit cards and license.
        
       | caboteria wrote:
       | I would imagine that the Archive Team would be interested in
       | these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archive_Team
        
         | toomuchtodo wrote:
         | Logistics in progress.
        
       | airstrike wrote:
       | Don't miss Pete's comment on that post. Such a cool YT channel!
        
       | agumonkey wrote:
       | vhs to dvd drives are fun
       | https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313...
        
         | urbandw311er wrote:
         | I wonder if the conversion software would have the unwanted
         | side effect of filtering out the teletext content.
        
       | npunt wrote:
       | Whenever I see old low res grainy footage like this I wonder how
       | well the latest image gen & AI can restore it
        
         | godzillabrennus wrote:
         | My experience trying to upscale Lexx from DVD copies is... not
         | well...
        
         | bahmboo wrote:
         | This isn't about the video part of the recordings
        
       | urbandw311er wrote:
       | One of the major broadcasters like C4 might be intersted.
       | Potentially there may even be some valuable deleted old shows on
       | those tapes, like a lost episode of something.
        
       | cj wrote:
       | Side note: any recommendations for digitization services for ~80
       | mini DV tapes?
       | 
       | Currently planning to try out LegacyBox, but the reviews are
       | mixed.
        
         | DaveChurchill wrote:
         | Get a FireWire cable and rip the data straight from a dvcam to
         | get the raw video files. Then compress with desired settings
        
           | cj wrote:
           | Ah actually they're 8mm cassette tapes and vhs-c. From 20-40
           | years ago
        
             | actionfromafar wrote:
             | Cheap? Get one of those chinese composite video to SD card
             | mp4 rippers.
             | 
             | Perfect? A linux PC with 400 dollars RF capture card plus
             | vhsdecode software.
        
       | profsummergig wrote:
       | AI solves this. Get AI to consume the lot and store it somewhere.
       | 
       | Then, in the future, query the AI to find out if a specific piece
       | of footage (that you need) is contained therein.
        
         | batch12 wrote:
         | A .txt file solves this if this is all op needs.
        
           | FredPret wrote:
           | But an AI is a great candidate to annotate the .txt
        
         | antileet wrote:
         | I can't tell if this is satire or not.
         | 
         | Have you considered storing it on the blockchain instead, so
         | this way it is immutable and permanent? /s
        
           | farias0 wrote:
           | I don't know why people are worried about storage. You can
           | just store it on the cloud.
        
             | thfuran wrote:
             | I know this guy Chad with nice shelves.
        
       | fallinditch wrote:
       | It can become a compulsion to record and collect media. Seems
       | like a male thing, normally it's blokes who create these
       | archives.
       | 
       | I met a bloke once in the 90's who made recordings on to C-90
       | tapes of anything interesting that was on BBC Radio 4 and 3, and
       | he found most things interesting. He was surrounded by piles,
       | thousands of tapes everywhere and he was desperately trying to
       | catalog everything. As I spoke to him he was listening to the
       | radio via an ear bud, whilst also recording the radio. He was
       | supposed to be moving out of his house that day, having just
       | exchanged contacts, but he was drowning in his precious tapes.
       | His wife seemed pretty p**d off with him.
       | 
       | I was a bit compulsive myself. I used to buy records, then CDs,
       | and I also made tapes of albums, and recordings of the John Peel
       | show. It was a problem to shift 100s of records and CDs and boxes
       | of tapes whenever I moved house. I lightened my load by giving
       | everything away apart from the Peel tapes which were the most
       | entertaining items in the whole collection, it actually felt
       | good. I kept hold of the Peel tapes for some years, even though
       | my tape deck had died. There were some great shows from the 90s!
       | But then I had to downsize again so I took them to the rubbish
       | tip, even that didn't make me sad.
       | 
       | Ultimately, having and keeping stuff just weighs you down.
        
         | dangsux wrote:
         | If you at all know him you must get him to contact the bbc
         | archival team.
        
           | Sakos wrote:
           | Why the BBC? It should go to archives like archive.org and
           | publicly accessible "pirate" archives, so corporations like
           | the BBC can't stick it in a vault and bury it.
        
         | cortesoft wrote:
         | Luckily, hoarding digital media is a lot easier and doesn't
         | take up much space.
        
           | Sakos wrote:
           | Yeah, my 30TB of digital media fits in a shoebox and even
           | doubling that would still fit in the same shoebox. It's also
           | not something that takes up a lot of time unless you let it
           | take over your life. Maybe a few hours a week of gathering
           | new media (movies, shows, games, YouTube videos, etc.), then
           | I move on with my life and do other things.
           | 
           | I've effectively given up on collecting DVDs or anything else
           | that takes up too much space, and it's such a load off my
           | mind not having to worry about where to out it all, how to
           | display it, or even how to transport it whenever I move.
        
       | stickfigure wrote:
       | Maybe I'm wrong, but I would assume that in the 1990s to 2000s
       | studios were better about archiving production data, and there
       | aren't likely to be "lost episodes" in this stash?
        
         | DigiEggz wrote:
         | You'd be very surprised.
        
         | dylan604 wrote:
         | you'd be not right. things happen. tapes get misplaced. tapes
         | get lost. tapes get damaged. the people working at the studios
         | are merely human. and at this point, there's even fewer humans
         | working at the studios as they keep laying people off.
        
       | zdw wrote:
       | Probably the highest quality retrieval is with:
       | https://github.com/oyvindln/vhs-decode
       | 
       | which reads the raw data off a variety of tape formats and
       | converts it to video. Grew out of the domesday project for
       | lasterdiscs
        
         | adamrezich wrote:
         | Thank you for this link! My mom went through hell trying
         | several "professional" commercial services both locally and
         | elsewhere, just trying to get our couple dozen or so family
         | video VHS tapes converted into some digital format. They all
         | suck _ass_ --not that my mom cares, of course, she's perfectly
         | content watching videos of her children hideously stretched
         | from 4:3 to 16:9, among many other issues. But now at least I
         | have a weekend project to look forward to!
        
           | ToDougie wrote:
           | This was so charming. I wish my parents had more recorded
           | content of us, but it was a rare day that someone would get
           | out the camcorder, and even rarer that the files would get
           | transposed anywhere. But I do think there are some really old
           | hard drives (anywhere from 10G to 40G) sitting somewhere in a
           | garage, full of JPEGs of us.
        
       | schappim wrote:
       | James should donate it to the UK's version of Australia's:
       | https://youtube.com/@davidthegreen
        
       | jwagenet wrote:
       | I'm somewhat baffled as to what is taking so long to at least
       | digitize the tapes. He alludes to perhaps some more steps than
       | just pressing play, but it seems to me the workload could be
       | broken up by focusing on recording the tape data and dealing with
       | the digital editing later to eliminate the physical tape problem.
        
       | douglee650 wrote:
       | Send in to southtree or similar service, get tapes plus an SSD
       | with digital files back
       | 
       | Run through AI and ask to transcribe, summarize, and catalog an
       | index
       | 
       | Store in secure S3 bucket or NAS
       | 
       | Create a website/blog post with ask for access
        
       | QuadrupleA wrote:
       | Probably an age-old theme, but as a guy now in my 40s, it's
       | humbling and a little sad to see how many things that were so
       | vital, alive, and relevant in my childhood (and past eras) that
       | are now dead and almost gone from the collective memory.
       | 
       | As the Buddha said, all is impermanent.
        
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