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       Avoidance Mapping: What It Is and Where It Fits in the Cartography
       Cube
        
       Author : bryanrasmussen
       Score  : 23 points
       Date   : 2024-09-22 09:43 UTC (3 days ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (geoawesome.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (geoawesome.com)
        
       | 01HNNWZ0MV43FF wrote:
       | No picture?
        
         | bryanrasmussen wrote:
         | there is a picture at the top of the article and a couple other
         | ones in the article, but I noticed the one on the top when I
         | went in with Firefox developer it was blank for a bit, I
         | scrolled down I scrolled back up it had loaded.
        
           | codetrotter wrote:
           | I see two copies of the same picture of the cartography cube
           | (one at the top, one further down). One picture of some
           | patterned buildings.
           | 
           | I would like to see pictures of actual avoidance maps.
        
       | munchler wrote:
       | Article about avoidance maps avoids showing any avoidance maps.
        
         | dumbo-octopus wrote:
         | Their interest in maps has transcended space time as your or I
         | know it, now they only think about the 6-dimensional manifold
         | of all possible maps embedded in The Cube.
        
         | inhumantsar wrote:
         | it even does a surprisingly good job of avoiding descriptions
         | of them too. i'm assuming that on this blog for/by geospatial
         | types, the author presumed a lot about the audience.
         | 
         | in fairness tho, the concept is simple enough and the post is
         | more about how they fit within the cube than the maps
         | themselves. given that, I'm not sure how useful the avoidance
         | maps created at the NYC workshop discussed would have been.
         | hand drawn, quickly annotated, and (it seems) created by
         | laypersons new to the idea.
        
       | shermantanktop wrote:
       | "On further reading, I realised that while mapping represents
       | reality, it also affects how we construct this reality"
       | 
       | Isn't this Sapir-Worff all over again? The obvious hazard is that
       | the thesis flatters the ego of the specialist, by elevating their
       | specialty above all others.
       | 
       | And more generally this reads like the product of an academic
       | culture that has become insular and fallen in love with its own
       | toolkit of jargon.
        
       | neilv wrote:
       | For walkers, a lot of what I'd guess is avoidance isn't by static
       | features, but varies by time of day, day of week, season, and
       | less-regular events/conditions.
       | 
       | There are places you're fine walking in daylight, but not at
       | night (e.g., it's deserted, or has bars/clubs prone to drunk
       | violence, or muggers looking for drunk people walking home).
       | 
       | And major streets that are heavy with pollution and horn-honking
       | weekdays, and during peak commute hours have lots of red light
       | running and aggro turns on or off side streets, but are
       | relatively peaceful on weekends.
       | 
       | When it's snow and ice conditions, some stretches of sidewalk are
       | orders of magnitude more injury-prone than alternate routes. And
       | some other stretches don't have slip hazards, but are very hard
       | to pass, because snow has been plowed of streets/yards or cleared
       | off cars onto the sidewalk and intersection curb cuts. And in
       | heavy rain, flooded storm drains in an intersection can mean a
       | big detour, if you don't want to get icky flood water out of your
       | shoes after you defrost your feet.
       | 
       | Constant road work can mean big detours on foot, as well as
       | sudden hearing-damage-level noises, risk of flying debris and
       | shrapnel, dust and fumes, danger from heavy equipment, and
       | (especially) danger from distracted motorists who often act crazy
       | around construction.
       | 
       | In the summer, one side of the street might be in the shade while
       | the other is not, which can be a huge difference. To a lesser
       | extent, in winter, one side of the street might be noticeably
       | warmer or less windy.
       | 
       | I've also avoided stretches of street due to panhandlers there.
       | 
       | And there's things you might not guess, but particular to a
       | locale. Here, there's one particular ambulance company who lately
       | has sirens louder than any other company or emergency vehicle,
       | and I encounter them almost every day. Much more often on major
       | streets, but I recently had one of them hit the siren on a narrow
       | side street, at full blast, while I was standing a few feet away,
       | waiting for them to pass, which was even worse than on a major
       | street. I wonder how much a to-the-second data feed of ambulance
       | movements, any public info of their tasking, and predictive
       | modeling of their routes, would help walkers minimize being
       | within hearing damage range of them.
       | 
       | If I ever strike it rich at a startup, one of my post-FIRE
       | projects will be to integrate some of this information to some
       | open source/data project, like OpenStreetMap and Organic Maps.
        
       | twic wrote:
       | A completely different kind of avoidance map:
       | https://meristemhorticulture.com/planted/2017/01/12/the-avoi...
        
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