[HN Gopher] Show HN: I built a chatbot to converse with 3M SaaS ...
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       Show HN: I built a chatbot to converse with 3M SaaS product reviews
        
       Hey HN,  I'm Andrei, and together with my co-founder Roman have
       been working on a tool called Reviewradar. Working with startups,
       doing interviews and sifting through endless software reviews are
       daunting tasks. So, we built a chatbot that lets you chat with over
       3 million reviews from more than 100K SaaS products.  With
       Reviewradar, you can ask questions like:  - create a comprehensive
       SWOT analysis for both Notion and Obsidian  - give me negative
       feedback and complaints you have about Postmark  - summarise the
       reviews you have on products in the OCR category  I would love to
       get your feedback on it. Check it out here: https://reviewradar.ai
       Looking forward to your thoughts / suggestions,  Andrei and Roman
        
       Author : andreict
       Score  : 77 points
       Date   : 2024-09-22 13:04 UTC (9 hours ago)
        
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       | fkilaiwi wrote:
       | neat! what is your data source?
        
       | marmaduke wrote:
       | Very cool. Can you describe any fine tuning or RAG you did? Did
       | you have to go through a bootstrapping process?
       | 
       | Totally get it if you don't want to share details.
        
       | bschmidt1 wrote:
       | This one seems like a blatant GPT wrapper. Why not just use 4o?
       | 
       | For example, "Ask any question" the use case shown is:
       | 
       | > "What specific python scripts are users running inside
       | HubSpot?"
       | 
       | I could just ask ChatGPT that too, why would I need this product
       | to answer the question?
       | 
       | Seems like everyone is just wrapping ChatGPT, creating even the
       | identical UI down to the icon on the send button, and then making
       | a Loom showcasing essentially white-labeled OpenAI functionality.
        
         | ramon156 wrote:
         | For future devs, what makes a product stand out (for devs) is
         | how you built it. What's the data source? Did you fine-tune
         | your data? Do you have people who already use it? Where does it
         | shine? (no, a prompt isn't good enough).
         | 
         | Also, I don't care about Hubspot reviews when I know the
         | product. Reviews are there for unknown software that are less
         | popular, but even then why are you considering using some half-
         | maintained solution for your enterprise?
        
       | fakedang wrote:
       | Well this product is completely useless if it's trained on G2 and
       | Capterra reviews.
        
         | ta988 wrote:
         | Why is that are they mostly fake? Or paid for?
        
           | nhggfu wrote:
           | their biz is affiliate marketing. so yea, paid for,
           | effectively.
        
       | jv22222 wrote:
       | Congrats on the good work! Do as https://x.com/levelsio does,
       | keep iterating, and make it better over time.
        
       | CuriouslyC wrote:
       | Your landing page is doing the heavy lifting here. Nice design.
       | 
       | You should do side by side comparisons of output from
       | GPT4o/Claude and your product to sell me on why I should care
       | about the RAG you added and your tuned prompts.
       | 
       | If you're giving away inference you should probably tell people
       | how you're intending to make money from them. Free services that
       | use expensive APIs are a big red flag for me.
        
       | tcdent wrote:
       | Cool idea, but fails one well known fact:
       | 
       | Customers don't know what they want.
        
         | inSenCite wrote:
         | This statement is a russian doll as in it potentially includes
         | the customers using this product ;)
        
         | falcor84 wrote:
         | That's somewhat true, but trite, and shouldn't imply that you
         | shouldn't listen to customers. It's up to you as a product
         | manager to analyze and synthesize people's feedback and
         | thoughts, integrating it with your other knowledge and
         | constraints, in order to arrive at (as much as possible) well-
         | founded product plans.
         | 
         | If it works well, I think this tool could really help
         | accelerate the process, especially if you can get it to give
         | you its sources, like Perplexity does.
        
         | dc_rog wrote:
         | Maybe not, but they'll tell you what they don't like about an
         | incumbent and that's sometimes all you need to enter a market.
        
         | louthy wrote:
         | This is why you listen to their problems and not their
         | solutions
        
       | TekMol wrote:
       | Me:
       | 
       | What do users think about Reviewradar?
       | 
       | Reviewradar:
       | 
       | User feedback on ReviewRadar varies, with many appreciating its
       | functionality while some indicate areas that could use
       | improvement. Here's a detailed breakdown of sentiments based on
       | user reviews:
       | 
       | Positive Aspects:
       | 
       | User Experience: Many users noted that the interface is intuitive
       | and easy to navigate. One user expressed that ReviewRadar is "the
       | best source of software reviews," highlighting the visibility and
       | transparency it provides.
       | 
       | Comprehensive Review Collection: Users value the centralized
       | nature of reviews, stating it allows for easy tracking and
       | management of their online reputation. One respondent emphasized,
       | "I can point possible customers to ReviewRadar, and they know
       | that I haven't falsified any reviews".
       | 
       | Support and Updates: Some users appreciated the support team,
       | remarking that they were responsive and helpful during the
       | onboarding process. There's a notable emphasis on the quick
       | resolution time for any issues.
       | 
       | Critical Feedback:
       | 
       | Integration Limitations: A recurring theme in feedback pertains
       | to a need for better integration with other applications. For
       | instance, users have mentioned, "It would be great to see Google
       | My Business integration" as a valuable addition.
       | 
       | Clarity in Reviews: While many find the review process thorough,
       | some users have pointed out that there were instances of what
       | they perceived as biased or unreliable reviews. This is
       | particularly concerning in a landscape where fake reviews can
       | distort genuine customer experiences.
       | 
       | Feature Requests: Certain users expressed the desire for more
       | customization options in dashboards and reporting features,
       | indicating that the current setup could be streamlined to improve
       | usability.
       | 
       | General Sentiment:
       | 
       | The overall impression of ReviewRadar is largely positive, with a
       | community of users who find it helpful in gathering insights and
       | managing their online reviews. However, users desire enhancements
       | in integrations and feature sets to maximize its potential.
       | 
       | Conclusion:
       | 
       | In summary, if you're contemplating using ReviewRadar, the
       | platform seems to be effective for managing software reviews and
       | tracking customer feedback. Yet, be aware of the requests for
       | improvements in integration and functionality from existing
       | users.
       | 
       | If you have any specific features or areas in mind that you'd
       | like to explore further, let me know!
        
       | yawnxyz wrote:
       | Wow incredible, could you give a small glimpse in how you
       | collected/normalized/vectorized all the different reviews +
       | information? Just lots of scraping + chucking it into Pinecone
       | etc?
       | 
       | > Me: Give a list of the new and old gene sequencing tools
       | 
       | > Reply: Based on the available reviews, I've compiled lists of
       | new and old sequencing products mentioned by users: Genemod,
       | Mixmax (email sequencing...?), HubSpot Sales Hub (????)
       | 
       | Are you guys using a pure RAG for your responses? I think you
       | should have a function caller traverse a tree of topics before
       | retrieving data from the right area/space or you'll have lots of
       | "contamination" of similar phrases across fields
        
       | amelius wrote:
       | Upon reading the title, my brain took a garden path in the
       | direction of the 3M company.
        
         | Always42 wrote:
         | Same, then it went to "to help with employee interviews"
        
         | itake wrote:
         | yeah, shouldn't it be 3m? not 3M?
        
           | abraxas wrote:
           | Or rather 3MM?
        
           | remram wrote:
           | The obvious spelling would be "3 million", why replace
           | obscure abbreviations with more of the same?
        
       | nextworddev wrote:
       | I have some MBA friends who wanted to do a "AI powered G2 or
       | Gartner" startup. Which makes me feel like this is a tarpit idea
        
         | thisisit wrote:
         | I believe it is a good idea, especially because there is a huge
         | CYA industry out there and Gartner owns a huge chunk of it. But
         | very difficult to implement correctly.
         | 
         | For example this one has a serious issue. It doesn't consider
         | that things might have changed. So, a review might be
         | complaining about a missing feature in a particular product but
         | now fully implemented.
         | 
         | I asked it for a side by side comparison for two enterprise
         | products. It told me that a particular feature was missing from
         | the product. I googled and found the referenced review from Jun
         | 2022. The feature in question was implemented in 2023. My first
         | experience with exploring Gartner is going to be next week so I
         | am curious how they handle such issues.
        
       | superasn wrote:
       | Here is some feedback. Your landing page needs samples. After
       | spending 30s I do have some idea about what you're trying to do
       | but some real life samples of input and output will show me
       | exactly what to expect and how good the quality is and eventually
       | if it's worth my time to sign up for it.
        
       | abraxas wrote:
       | Good stuff, it gave me a very fair review of the SaaS I tested it
       | on and suggested good alternatives. This is useful.
        
       | piterrro wrote:
       | Would you mind sharing a source of the reviews? How your users
       | would know whether your product could be trusted?
        
       | rsp1984 wrote:
       | Just a nitpick: please use lowercase 'm' for 'million'. When I
       | read the title I thought it had something to do with the company
       | 3M (not really known for making SaaS).
        
         | Diti wrote:
         | The SI unit for million is M, so that should be 3 M (with a
         | space). 3 m would mean 3 minutes.
        
           | osrec wrote:
           | It could also mean 3 meters. Context is everything. The
           | lowercase m would be more widely understood in this context.
        
           | remram wrote:
           | M is the SI _prefix_ for million (not a unit).
           | 
           | m is the SI unit symbol for meter. Minute is not a SI unit,
           | as the SI unit of time is the second.
        
             | Diti wrote:
             | Woah, I feel dumb. Thanks for correcting me! I can't edit
             | my message.
        
       | kshmir wrote:
       | What is this trained on? It doesn't seem to look on the web for
       | my product at all... doesn't quite the reviews...
       | 
       | Are you just using an LLM? I asked to write code, and it did...
        
       | hoomank3 wrote:
       | Looks like a useful product. Does it support Facebook and Google
       | My Business reviews?
        
       | thih9 wrote:
       | How is it different from asking chatgpt (or other popular LLM)?
        
       | code51 wrote:
       | Landing page yes but is it actually working with production
       | performance? I have strong doubts after executing your own demo
       | query of "Summarize the reviews you have on products in the OCR
       | category." in the system.
       | 
       | If the idea is just demo and collecting leads, then you could
       | have cached at least your demo queries.
       | 
       | Everybody's too landing-page focused these days.
        
       | altdataseller wrote:
       | The problem is I don't trust all those SaaS reviews in sites like
       | G2, TrustRadius, Gartner etc. A lot of them are paid, and
       | incentivized. Heck, I personally wrote a few nonsense ones just
       | to get free gift cards. But I know some people give our free
       | credits or discounts if you write a review for them.
       | 
       | Even a lot of "free" reviews on Reddit are secretly posted by the
       | company, or someone who got paid by the company.
       | 
       | [UPDATE] Just tried the tool. 7 of the 8 bullet points your tool
       | gave me was also given to me by Claude. I think both are using
       | similar data sources, so I fail to see what differentiates this
       | tool
        
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