[HN Gopher] Ask HN: Marketplaces for Embedded/FPGA Developers
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       Ask HN: Marketplaces for Embedded/FPGA Developers
        
       I have what I imagine to be a fairly simple project for a talented
       FPGA coder. While I know of some marketplaces for finding generic
       software developers, I don't know whether there are any good ones
       in the embedded space. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
        
       Author : ckemere
       Score  : 35 points
       Date   : 2024-09-18 14:38 UTC (4 days ago)
        
       | brudgers wrote:
       | Do you have a budget that isn't based on your imagination?
        
         | ckemere wrote:
         | Maybe $5-10k?
        
           | gaudat wrote:
           | Do you need latency measured in nanoseconds or multiplexing
           | hundreds of sensors? Otherwise it makes a lot more sense to
           | use a Cortex-M or Cortex-A.
        
             | user_7832 wrote:
             | Aren't FPGAs also helpful for high bandwidth/throughput
             | applications like continuous input from a camera? (I'm not
             | an FPGA expert, just curious)
        
               | schobi wrote:
               | Right. Fpgas shine if you have high data rates (multi
               | Gigabit on single/dual pins), low latency, lots of
               | similar computation (multiply accumulate), a lot of
               | complex pipelined logic and if you need to be really
               | compact at the same time.
               | 
               | The effort to get this running is also crazy huge. Large
               | designs "compile" for hours, simulation and in situ
               | testing can take months. If your fpga has 1000 pins, even
               | PCB design, manufacturing and debugging is hard, if you
               | even have a sufficient scope at hand. I would guess 10x
               | compared to solving a problem with an embedded cpu, which
               | is 10x compared to solving a problem on a standard PC.
               | Expect another 10x if you go from Fpga to custom ASICs.
               | 
               | I'm curious what could be expected / possible with 5-10k.
               | Tweaking an existing design, on proven and available
               | hardware? Testbench for a module only? Maybe "just"
               | VHDL/verilog coding (instead of dealing with the Fpga)?
               | 
               | (sorry, no marketplace)
        
               | jononor wrote:
               | Many of the common usecases, like camera input, will have
               | dedicated peripheral a available in a System on Chip or
               | microcontroller. Which would then generally be preferred
               | over FPGA because it will require less custom
               | development, quality assurance, etc.
        
               | user_7832 wrote:
               | That's true, I was thinking of the more "extreme" use
               | cases like those cameras which sample at hundreds
               | (thousands?) of images a second.
        
           | gchadwick wrote:
           | Does depend upon the project but I suspect this is far too
           | low. Only thing you're likely to get in this price range is a
           | small addition / tweak to an existing design.
           | 
           | A very minimal design from scratch that uses existing off the
           | shelf hardware with no interfacing to anything remotely
           | complex and no follow on support (pretty much developer hands
           | it over showing some smoke test works and you're on your own
           | from there) could also fit into this budget.
        
           | toast0 wrote:
           | Here's your engineering plan for that budget.
           | 
           | Make up some design documents and put up a splashy
           | crowdsourcing campaign. Collect, but don't spend the
           | deposits. Trickle out some progress content over about a
           | year. Look for knock offs on aliexpress, return deposits.
        
       | jononor wrote:
       | Can you provide some details about the problem to be solved?
        
       | jononor wrote:
       | Arrow Electronics has been involved with freelancer.com for many
       | years, so it might be ok for FPGA. I think an old colleague used
       | it for some embedded stuff (not FPGA) and was pretty happy with
       | it. Upwork also has FPGA category, but I know even less about it.
        
       | svnt wrote:
       | The marketplace for this, as compared with generic software
       | developers, would be so small and infrequently used as to be
       | basically nonfunctional.
       | 
       | I would recommend searching for terms of art such as vhdl and
       | verilog in normal freelancer sites.
       | 
       | Most embedded folks don't do FPGAs, the subset that do is mostly
       | employed in situations that don't permit freelancing.
        
       | transpute wrote:
       | _> Fairly simple project for a talented FPGA coder_
       | 
       | The open hardware community (e.g. https://fossi-
       | foundation.org/events/archive and http://www.enjoy-digital.fr)
       | works with FPGAs. Contributors can be found on social media and
       | video playlists from past conferences. If your project can be
       | done by modification of existing open hardware, there would be
       | less cost and risk.
        
       | jaeckel wrote:
       | If you give a short description of what you need and contact
       | details, your search is maybe already over, as on this site are
       | also some freelancers with FPGA&|Embedded experience.
        
       | synthos wrote:
       | You could probably post it on http://fpgajobs.com/
        
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