[HN Gopher] Kubed (Emacs-based Kubernetes interface) user manual...
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       Kubed (Emacs-based Kubernetes interface) user manual, now with
       pretty images
        
       Author : oskardrums
       Score  : 64 points
       Date   : 2024-09-21 07:52 UTC (15 hours ago)
        
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       | whirlwin wrote:
       | > Pods, logs, shells, YAMLs, all in one integrated interface
       | 
       | Has anyone tried Kubed?
       | 
       | Personally I have very good experience with k9s which seems to do
       | the same, and a bit more.
       | 
       | https://k9scli.io/
        
         | _joel wrote:
         | k9s is easily my favourite k8s util
        
         | donaldihunter wrote:
         | Just learned about Kubed here, but I'm a longtime user of k9s
         | and I'm keen to try out Kubed to see how it compares. It will
         | be interesting to see if there are any workflow benefits to be
         | gained from Kubed.
        
       | gigatexal wrote:
       | This is very cool. But now instead of emacs make it Vi ;-)
       | 
       | update: I am very sorry for this silly post. I love you all
       | whether you use vi or emacs.
        
         | dingnuts wrote:
         | emacs has a vi implementation, you just turn on evil mode.
         | 
         | I don't know why this is so hard for vimmers to understand.
         | evil mode will work with this.
         | 
         | I'm only half joking. The holy war between vim and emacs is
         | like a bunch of machinists arguing over whether they prefer a
         | lathe, or an entire machine shop that also includes a lathe if
         | you want it.
        
           | gigatexal wrote:
           | For the same reason vimmers despise IDEs: we don't need it.
           | We just need a tool to edit text and the rest we can do with
           | other Unix tools. ;-)
        
             | dingnuts wrote:
             | so just open vim when you don't need the rest? that's what
             | I do. they're just tools. you can use both of them as
             | appropriate.
             | 
             | but also the grand parent I was replying to wants to
             | control kubernetes from vim.
             | 
             | so do you want to control kubernetes from vim, or do you
             | dislike IDEs? you can't have both a minimal editor and an
             | editor that does everything all in one program
             | 
             | just install evil mode in emacs and leave vim installed and
             | use both and you can have your cake and eat it too!
             | sometimes I think programmers just don't want to be happy
        
             | desumeku wrote:
             | At this point, why not use nano, or simply echo your code
             | into text files? You don't need to see your code while
             | writing it when you have cat and less.
        
               | dingnuts wrote:
               | nano? pff, just use sed
        
               | ashton314 wrote:
               | I knew I was in the presence of a hard-core programmer
               | when my interim advisor unironcially used sed to make a
               | tiny edit to a config file. He just up-and-used it
               | correctly like the first time. I was amazed.
        
             | umanwizard wrote:
             | OK, so back to the original point of the thread: where is
             | the vim implementation of something like kubed?
             | 
             | There isn't one, because vim isn't a general-purpose
             | application development platform, but emacs is.
             | 
             | If people don't want to access general-purpose applications
             | from within their text editor, that is fine, but then why
             | complain on threads about new emacs packages for people who
             | do?
        
           | nocman wrote:
           | > The holy war between vim and emacs is like a bunch of
           | machinists arguing over whether they prefer a lathe, or an
           | entire machine shop that also includes a lathe if you want
           | it.
           | 
           | IMHO not really a fair comparison. There are signifcant
           | differences in the feel and the workflow between using vim
           | and using emacs in evil mode. Other people have preferences
           | that differ from yours. I have many years experience using
           | both vim and emacs (in evil-mode), and I see both sides.
           | Don't get me wrong, emacs in evil mode is great, and I would
           | not want to be without it, but it does not 100% reproduce the
           | workflow of logging in to a terminal and editing text there
           | in vim.
           | 
           | The differences are significant. I'm not saying the
           | experience in emacs is bad, it's just different. If you
           | already have, say, 10 years of muscle memory built up from
           | using vim in a terminal, it will take a fair amount of
           | adjustment to move to an emacs/evil-mode way of doing things.
           | 
           | I personally see no reason that I have to pick one or the
           | other, and at present I spend a lot of time in both editors.
           | I realize that would drive some people crazy, but I'm OK with
           | my preferences being a little unusual.
        
         | dingnuts wrote:
         | I've used emacs for ten years and vim for twenty. You know
         | something I've noticed? vim users always show up in emacs
         | spaces to poke fun at emacs users, for some reason. But the
         | reverse was never true anecdotally, when I used vim only.
         | 
         | I use emacs because people in #vim on freenode were mean to me
         | ten years ago for having an interest in Lisp, and told me to
         | just use emacs if I was interested in that..
         | 
         | ok I said. #emacs treated me respectfully. ten years later,
         | emacs has a lively community. vim has some forks.
         | 
         | I wonder why this is. Just something to think about.
        
           | gigatexal wrote:
           | I'm only teasing. emacs is on my list but in evil mode only
           | for the time being.
        
             | dingnuts wrote:
             | yeah sorry IDK why it bugged me today. I just love both
             | these tools so much.. the holy war is dumb :(
        
       | imp0cat wrote:
       | Is this related to https://github.com/kubernetes-el/kubernetes-el
       | ?
        
       | sham1 wrote:
       | One thing I appreciate about this package is that it's in GNU
       | ELPA. Far too many emacs packages end up just languishing in
       | MELPA.
       | 
       | It wouldn't even be a problem if they were in MELPA Stable
       | (although I personally prefer GNU ELPA and nongnu ELPA), but the
       | fact that so many packages exist without any versioned releases
       | bugs me way too much. It makes having a reproducible config far
       | more annoying than it could be.
        
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